Hmm, I think that both Spits and Hurricanes match up best against the 109 below say about 10,000' where they have a fairly significant power advantage. Check: Hurricane Mk I Performance and Spitfire Mk. I versus Me 109 E, A Performance Comparison. That said an altitude advantage going into a fight is certainly desirable.

I can tell you that in SEOW the pilot's life heavily counts in term campaign result (overall score); during the BoB campaign there were great fights at 7km between E4 and SpitI (with Blue's fuel limited at start).

So you will fly your 109s nice and slow, next to your bombers, and you'll lose large numbers when the British attack you with more energy than you have - and then the next time you fly the mission, you'll do the same thing? I doubt you'll enjoy that, even though it's historically accurate.

You don't get the bigger picture, we plan our attack set up attack routes, we don't inform the enemy where we will be, and we don't know where they will be, the only thing the Allies get is an approximate attack grid which they received from the radar stations, don't get this wrong though, the grid is quite limited and the low fuel load on the 109 doesn't allow much altering from a direct course. I do enjoy real life tactics, I want to get the close as possible WW2 experience, I'm not in for a super ace score using modern tactics and hindsight view about the WW2 and what pilots should have done, I like re-enactment, everyone's interest differ, but this is mine. Overall the Battle of Britain wasn't a turkey shoot, there was fierce battle raging on. I'm not going further into this. Ende. Lets keep this civil.

A 12 plane Spitfire wing, three vics of four, heading directly into 100 plane bomber/fighter formations at co alt would be a "retarded" decision, yes? Even if that formation possibly had 109's in high cover as well? It happened IRL. Just to pick one example. ;)

But yes, we do retarded things with our computers. Indeed. :grin:

but it has not much BoB action in the book, he was shot down very early in the campaign.

Actually Steinhilper wrote (page 330 of my copy of his book): “The Me 109 E 4 was capable of reaching 10,000 metres (32,800 ft) with the Mk I Spitfire at a comparable 10,3363 (typo) metres(34,000 ft), but the new Mk IIs soared up to 11,340 metres (37,200 ft.) This gave a tactical advantage of 1,340 metres or 4,300 ft to the Spitfires.”

My copy of Steinhilper’s book describes action during the Battle of Britain, especially concerning I/JG 52, in a loose diary form up to the date Steinhilper was shot down - 27 October 1940.

By the way reds speak here BoB was a Turkey Shot where RAF massacrated the Luftwaffe. Poor ones the main reason RAF was not ripped from the sky was because a change in Strategy, withdrawing the pressure over the RAF, pilots and airfields to the useless bombings of London. BoB had no winners, luftwaffe just withdraw because the Operation Barbarossa was to begin. Luftwaffe crushed the RAF at Malta for two times and then withdraw because the fighters was needed in some other place. The things only changed when americans came with massive long range fighters.

Sort of my point... I fly GhostSkies which is similar to SE but customized... Fly with one life and you will get more realistic tactics.

The USAAF with their massive fighters and heavy bombers crushed the luftwaffe in the West.