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Sven	01-07-2011 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by talonite (Post 210420)

Keep in mind, according to the manual, cluster bombs are not to be released lower than 200m above target.

But I don't keep to the manual you see, I create my own manual;) , nah seriously, 200 meters guarantees hits on at least 1 target, but I think it's still to spread out, 50 to a 100 is good for tight moving columns after having made some 15 sorties with the Henschel online over enemy targets.

swiss

01-08-2011 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by talonite (Post 210420)

Keep in mind, according to the manual, cluster bombs are not to be released lower than 200m above target.

(german-)cluster bombs are a waste of time anyway. ;)

ZaltysZ

01-08-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Romanator21 (Post 210375)

Thanks for the help with the documents Talonite.

I ran some tests, however, and the aiming guides don't seem to work as advertised :)

Dropping from 50 meters using the second indicator from the top works almost perfectly.

However, dropping from 100 meters, I had to use an area between the 3rd and 4th indicators.

From 100 meters, using the 3rd indicator led to the bombs falling short. The same occured at 200 using the 4th indicator.

All drops were done at almost exactly 300 kph, straight and level.

I don't know what the reason for the differences could be, but for now, I think I'll stick to dropping from 50-100 meters.

Without 6DOF, all plates (maybe except 50m one) are misaligned with your line of sight. Although misalignment may look minor, it translates to not so small error.

Wutz	01-08-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by swiss (Post 210444)

(german-)cluster bombs are a waste of time anyway. ;)

Really now? How often have you used them?
If used properly they are devastating!
The cluster bombs used at high level are ideal for clearing enemy air bases in almost one sweep!
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...n/bild8as3.jpg

Sven	01-08-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Wutz (Post 210495)

Really now? How often have you used them?
If used properly they are devastating!
The cluster bombs used at high level are ideal for clearing enemy air bases in almost one sweep!

It is a fact that Russian ones in the game are better somehow, but the new AB/23 certainly does do it´s job good for the low level attacks!

One question though, and I've always wondered why, if you drop a big AB bomb, what the heck are those weird smoke plume thingies which litter the battlefield? Almost looks like a gas attack from the WW1

Wutz	01-08-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sven (Post 210501)

Those are small bomblets exploding, they are fairly small. I have the casing of an original here at home, it has a lenght of 17cm over all, bomb with out the rear winglets 8cm and a diameter of 6cm. They are nasty little things depending on the versions, the anti tank ones can not be defuses as they have hollow charges and extrem delicate detonators.
On my screen shot AB1000 where used.

swiss

01-08-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wutz (Post 210495)

Ok, I was talking about <AB1000. ;)
...the smaller ones really suck.

Romanator21

01-08-2011 06:09 PM

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Without 6DOF, all plates (maybe except 50m one) are misaligned with your line of sight. Although misalignment may look minor, it translates to not so small error.

Yes, that's true, and I corrected for this :) However, they still seem "off".

EJGr.Ost_Caspar

01-08-2011 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Romanator21 (Post 210563)

Yes, that's true, and I corrected for this :) However, they still seem "off".

Just as a thought, you drop on targets, that are at true 0m ?

MadBlaster

01-09-2011 01:45 AM

I can't translate, but noticed that Page 27 of the Hs 129A-B Abwurfwaffee.pdf you link to has these numbers listed:

10m / 85 degrees

50m / 78.5 degrees

100m / 74 degrees

200m / 68 degrees

We know with the 2 second fuse that the 10m option is a no go. But the others,
we can use bombsight table 2 to back into the required IAS. 280 kph seems to be the magic number for the rest. I haven't tested yet.

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