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EJGr.Ost_Caspar 12-15-2010 08:21 PM

Can you deliver any trustable sources for.... fountains?

I mean, not those post war reports. Even still existing fountains are mostly made by new spare parts. Is there any original left? We need such sources to do it correctly or none at all. You know... :rolleyes:

swiss 12-15-2010 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeeJay82 (Post 204450)
Or...what about an airship... like the crimson skies game? :P

do a mid air carrier landing, get fixed, and get dropped back in

That's not sooo far off.

The USA indeed had airship aircraft carriers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Akron_%28ZRS-4%29


Learned that e few days ago and almost couldn't believe it.

swiss 12-15-2010 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novotny (Post 204689)
That red light in the 109's cockpit did not indicate low air fuel as most have thought up until now: it came on when the staffel's cooks had finally knocked up breakfast and the errant nazi's were recalled for their piddly continental - a poor shadow of the full English, with its insipid orange juice and croissanty nonsense (we have much to thank the French resistance for).

That red light was Adolf Galland, smoking a cigar. ;)


The post of letum reminds me of whatnot's "spaghetti is not realistic without tomato" post. LOL

WTE_Galway 12-15-2010 10:25 PM

The problem with water fountains is keeping the U Boats out.

IceFire 12-15-2010 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway (Post 204745)
The problem with water fountains is keeping the U Boats out.

Yes it's true. A very big problem. First the U Boats get in the fountains and then they clog them up. Having the correct U Boat to water ratio is very important. We must research this!

KnightFandragon 12-15-2010 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiss (Post 204742)
That's not sooo far off.

The USA indeed had airship aircraft carriers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Akron_%28ZRS-4%29


Learned that e few days ago and almost couldn't believe it.

Nice lolz, I wouldnt have believed either the inflight repairs or the air-craft carrier hadi not seen it....it was a World War 2 Mechwarrior dropship +D

Avimimus 12-16-2010 05:14 AM

Now everybody sing:


This is the tale of the Gremlins
Told by the P.R.U.
The incredible tale of the Gremlins
But believe me, you slobs, it's true.

When you're seven miles up in the heavens,
(That's a hell of a lonely spot)
And it's fifty degrees below zero
Which isn't exactly hot.

When you're frozen blue like your Spitfire
And you're scared a Mosquito pink,
When you're thousands of miles from nowhere
And there's nothing below but the drink

It's then you will see the Gremlins,
Green and gamboge and gold,
Male and female and neuter
Gremlins both young and old.

It's no good trying to dodge them,
The lessons you learned on the Link
Won't help you evade a Gremlin,
Though you boost and you dive and you fink.

White ones will wiggle your wingtips,
Male ones will muddle your maps,
Green ones will guzzle your Glycol,
Females will flutter your flaps.

Pink ones will perch on your perspex,
And dance pirouettes on your prop;
There's a spherical, middle-aged Gremlin
who'll spin on your stick like a top.

They'll freeze up your camera shutters,
They'll bite through your aileron wires,
They'll bend and they'll break and they'll batter,
They'll insert toasting forks in your tyres.

That is the tale of the Gremlins,
Told by the P.R.U.,
(P)retty (R)uddy (U)nlikely to many
But fact, none the less, to the few."

Letum 12-16-2010 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 204733)
Can you deliver any trustable sources for.... fountains?

I mean, not those post war reports. Even still existing fountains are mostly made by new spare parts. Is there any original left? We need such sources to do it correctly or none at all. You know... :rolleyes:

Hello Casper and thank you for your interest.

First I must make clear that water fountains are a secondary idea of mine.
You should not tackle them until you have the mid-air repairs finished.
That said....


Water fountains where undoubtedly a feature of the Second War. There are
three reasons I can say this so assuredly:

1) The invention of water fountains predates the Second War by over 1000
years and the erection of fountains was wide spread across Europe for a
period of several hundred years leading up to the Second War.

2) At archeological dig sites, fountains have been buried next to confirmed
war items such as war guns, war planes, war documents and war veterans.

3) "The Chronicle of the 20th CenturyKey Events in Nuneaton and district
in the last one hundred years compiled by Peter Lee 1940-49"


Chronicle Four (LINK) of this historical document contains a rare, first hand
account of the role fountains played in the Second War. The Entry for 1940
reads thus:
Quote:

1940

The water fountain in the Market Place was taken down and the water supply used for a static water tank in connection with air raid precautions. The old stone water fountain was stored for many years in the council yard in Queens Road at the back of the library.

10th January - Nuneaton Citizens Advice Bureau opened.

4th June - RAF Bramcote commissioned.

July - The 1st Polish Squadron came to be stationed at RAF Bramcote. No.300 Masovian, followed by Nos. 301, 304, 305.

20th August - King George VI and Queen Elizabeth paid a secret visit to RAF Bramcote to inspect a squadron of Polish aviators.

28th August - First air raid on Nuneaton. The Luftwaffe bombed Weddington - 1 dead.

14th November - The great blitz on Coventry, a few bombs were dropped around the Nuneaton area.
This not only shows that fountains existed in the war, but it also shows
that they where "in connection with air raid precautions". No doubt, there
would have been many more deaths on the 28th August, had it not been
for the fountain. However, I don't think that should be modeled in IL2 for
reasons of balance.

I have made a 3d model of what I think the fountain should look like in IL2.
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9789/fountaind.jpg
edit: but not white.

WTE_Galway 12-16-2010 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum (Post 204788)

I have made a 3d model of what I think the fountain should look like in IL2.
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9789/fountaind.jpg
edit: but not white.


So fountains should be camouflaged ?

Letum 12-16-2010 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway (Post 204789)
So fountains should be camouflaged ?

No....just normal fountain colour.


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