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Jaws2002 11-17-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Igo kyu (Post 198997)
If I did dream of stopping any posts, it would be all of the above without exception.

I actually voted the current moderation right, because I think it is, and I wouldn't want to see anything changed.

The elimination of the "this bit might be a bit wrong, perhaps?" posts to concentrate on the butt-kissing ones would entirely remove the point of the update threads for me.

Nobody is against that kind of imput. We are talking about this kind of imput:

Quote:

"The clouds are *facepalm* "

"Computers have permanently developed better and better since the last 9 years. But SoW BoB doensn't look like 9 years better than IL-2. "

"Hm, I hope Oleg shows that he is grown-up and not in a snit now like a small child."

"Well Oleg:

The terrain still looks crappy and it's endless far from cinematic.

Some sort of trees in the pics look very poor..."

"Why does the water not show any effect to the crashing plane.
There should be circled waves going away from the entrance of the plane in the water.
And the trees in the second part of pictures just look very very bad."

"Even these clouds of 2006 version look better than the ones Oleg shows us in developments updates."

"The trees look like they would be flat green paper swimming on the water surface."

"It's very disappointing to be lured with video thoughts of luthier and then getting a few shots without anything new in it."

All this and a storm of stupid questions is coming from only one guy. And there are two maybe three others. Every friday is the same. This is crap, that is crap, i want this, i want that, you promised this.....

This is not constructive criticism. This are mostly insults. I'd be pissed to get this kind of stuff every week, for something I worked on for five years. Specially coming from some sixteen year old kid.

Icewolf 11-17-2010 06:34 PM

just keep adding the idiots to your ignore list ,easy solution.

philip.ed 11-17-2010 06:54 PM

Unless evidence is giving on members saying such things, surely your post is just as de-constructive and, thus, hypocritical? What's the saying: all talk, no action?
I mean I agree that such things are just rude, but I can't recall one member saying all that! I think it all get's spread across the board like marmite. That's metaphorical, and ambiguous, if you get my drift ;)

I think we should put the past behind us and focus on the future. If the same thing happens, then-yes-we have reason to get annoyed.

klem 11-17-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Qpassa (Post 198958)
I think now Its ok.

Qpassa - this is truly not against you personally but your reply is simple, to the point, and represents the view of several others so I picked up on it and I just want to say IMHO that view is incorrect.

The Friday before last I ploughed through 90 pages - NINETY! - to see if my question had been answered.

That is NOT now "OK". It's ridiculous. Its is supposed to be informative, questioning, with responses from Oleg but not a platform for irrelevant posts or egotistical p*nis waving. It needs to be kept to the point. If I were only skimming through just looking at the odd opinions it would not hurt as I could skip what I like but if I have to get past every single post to find an answer it's a frustrating pain in the a$$ especially when you see so much taken up with juvenile tit for tat trash. It also makes it hard for Oleg to even find our questions.

It makes Oleg's attempts to keep us informed almost worthless.

I've been discussing this with others in another thread and truthfully I don't know the answer unless Oleg is willing to lock his thread and post his answers there to questions raised in a parallel thread. We'll still get the lunies who want to see their name up in lights but at least the update thread will be clean - if Oleg can find our questions among the other mire.

And some of them will be laughing at us for the trouble they are able to cause.

The only other way I can think of to reduce this nonsense is to set these guys to 'Ignore' (if I can find out how to do it). They can then feed their egos as much as they like and I won't see it. At least then people will know that if they want to be heard - sensibly - they need to stay away from the kind of post we don't want to see or they won't be heard at all. Of course we could all just filter on Oleg's answers but it would be nice to remove a lot of the unnecessary garbage. Providing Oleg can find our questions in there.

Sorry for the lengthy sermon.

Jaws2002 11-17-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 199014)
Unless evidence is giving on members saying such things, surely your post is just as de-constructive and, thus, hypocritical?
What's the saying: all talk, no action?
I mean I agree that such things are just rude, but I can't recall one member saying all that! I think it all get's spread across the board like marmite.

Here's the evidence:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/search....archid=1428865

All the quotes posted above can be found there, in the exact same format. If you go read through that link you'll also see the constant "give me this, i want that", over and over again coming from the same guy.

philip.ed 11-17-2010 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaws2002 (Post 199020)
Here's the evidence:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/search....archid=1428865

All the quotes posted above can be found there, in the exact same format.

The link doesn't work...

Old_Canuck 11-17-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RedToo (Post 198905)
Definately more intervention. Never mind driving Oleg mad - it drives me mad having to wade through all the drivel.

RedToo.

Indeed! Moderators please flush the drivel.

Jaws2002 11-17-2010 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 199022)
The link doesn't work...

For some reason only works when i'm logged with my user ID.

Ok anywhay, go to the last updates thread, go to the top of page#7, click on the user"Hecke" and then "find all posts bye Hecke"

You'll find everything there.


Let me try this link:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/search....nduser&u=19984


PS. I think this one works.

philip.ed 11-17-2010 07:37 PM

OK, I can see now.

It's a mixed bag. I think Hecke has a poor way of getting his point across. In some cases I have agreed with him, but he's just not constructive enough in his posts. I hope he sees this, as all he needs to do is change his attitude and not be so rude.

I think that's a fair analysis. ;)

Anyway, blue skies. let's see what the next update brings...(if we get one) ;)

LukeFF 11-17-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 198994)
I agree with what Oleg said last week;
ask questions, supply answers if possible, give links if neccesary, be humble....something to that effect.
Surely that is all that is needed? ;)

You would do well to remember that yourself. Not that you haven't posted good factual information (because you have), but a lot of the time I feel like I'm reading a stream of consciousness novel in your posts.


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