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ChrisDNT 11-09-2010 10:30 AM

There were some early Sikorski operationally used for rescue duties in Birmany during WWII.

Hoverbug 11-09-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 196725)
slightly disturbing to see how she gets tittilated and exited speaking about the memories of her beloved nazi general and the warmongering industrialists

Yep...she was a true believer to the end.

Blackdog_kt 11-09-2010 10:59 AM

Actually it's a good question and would be a beneficial addition to the sim, far from being in the same league as antartica-based UFOs or other fantasy scenarios.

After all he didn't demand a chopper on release, he just asked if it's possible to some day have choppers in the simulator's engine which, judging from the long-confirmed knowledge of an upcoming Korean war add-on, is something that would be useful in the context of it.

New mission builder triggers + cessna o-1 birddogs + skyraider + helicopters = awesome pilot rescue missions in multiplayer ;)

zapatista 11-09-2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoverbug (Post 196667)
The U.S. Was the only nation with a true operational helicopter capability with deployments to the Far East from mid '44 on. In the interests of self-aggrandisement, here's an article I wrote on the subject: http://www.airspacemag.com/military-...rom-Luzon.html

interesting read, thx for posting it !

engarde 11-09-2010 11:57 AM

i know! I know!

NINJAS !

They TOTALLY should be in too!

YEAH !

Avimimus 11-09-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 196758)
Actually it's a good question and would be a beneficial addition to the sim, far from being in the same league as antartica-based UFOs or other fantasy scenarios.

Well Autogyros did play an important part in the Battle of Britain.

They were also active in the lead up to the Battle of Moscow.

Helicopters proper were also used in Korea.

So the only place (for which a sim is planned) where rotary winged aircraft are completely out of place is the Mediterranean.

Blackdog_kt 11-09-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by engarde (Post 196779)
i know! I know!

NINJAS !

They TOTALLY should be in too!

YEAH !

What part of "planned Korean war add-on" is giving you comprehension troubles? :-P

Just because it's not a priority for BoB doesn't mean it's a completely useless addition. We already have an autogyro in SoW after all and all they did was calibrate radars which were, oh i don't know, maybe one of the most important tools in deciding the battle's outcome? ;)

Sure, most probably we'll only be flying it on custom made missions with triggers and it won't have much combat relevance, but it's such an exotic aircraft that finding a valid excuse to include it in the planeset is a noteworthy decision.

To be honest, i've reached a point where i'm more interested in studying and flying the aircraft, whatever that may be, instead of just engaging into combat with no real knowledge of what i'm driving and why it works the way it does. If triggered objectives are incorporated into a revised multiplayer mode with long-running campaigns, i think i'll be spending much more time flying weird planes or weird missions, at the very least multi-engined bombers, than duking it out in single seaters every single time. Depending on the success of the series and what future add-ons might bring, i think i'll be spending most of my time chasing U-boats in a Catalina, flying agents to France in a Lysander, flying photo-recon, marking targets as a pathfinder or going on raids with Mosquitos. In 18 years of simming i've seen all kinds of simulated single seater combat, it's the obscure stuff i'm itching to know about now.

Who knows, maybe i'm getting old, but i've come to appreciate the satisfaction i get when getting a win almost purely due to superior planning instead of superior combat skill :-P

Interesting info about the Soviet autogyros as well Avinimus, i had no idea they were used in combat or even existed for that matter.

Triggaaar 11-09-2010 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 196725)
slightly disturbing to see how she gets tittilated and exited speaking about the memories of her beloved nazi general and the warmongering industrialists

Ah the good ol' days. If it weren't for those pesky allies ruining everything, the world would be so much better now, free from man's failures.

Sven 11-09-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Avimimus (Post 196670)
SoW:BoB is planned to have a Cierva autogyro in it. The autogyro may even become flyable.

This may well pave the way for a Kamov A-7 autogyro (the most heavily armed autogyro to see service during the war...)

haha that thing could actually attack efficiently? it looks funny to say the least:grin: would be very cool to have, but I´d rather have more variants of the BF-109 or more flyables then concentrating on a autogyro system integrated in the BATTLE OF BRITAIN, I can see why you want this for further addons, and I believe there will be..

If you want to fly a helicopter try KA-50 Black Shark, good fun if you really like helicopters.

Ltbear 11-09-2010 02:10 PM

There is an old helo sim out there that not many knows about. It had major bugs, and the missions felt static and was over fast but the imersion of it was great...whirlwinds over vietnam......

When 1c dropped it from there site i desperatly tryed to get my hands on some of the tools (was werry simulare to Tiger vs T-34 in structure) but i failed....

That helo sim had potentional, i knew what i would do with it but hit a brick wall trying to talk to the devs.....

There is nothing like a UH-1 gunship flying over jungle with everything from miniguns to rockets blazing.....

if anyone read this and who have some contact to the team behind Whirlwind over vietnam please send me PM....i stil would like to bug fix and mod the crackzz out of that game....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df-34U_MRfI

Ltbear


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