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DD_crash 10-21-2010 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedToo (Post 191477)
I have a 1930's RAF map of the south east of England. It is paper on open weave linen. I am at work at the moment. I will post more details when I get home.

RedToo.

Old time (1950s) Ordenance Survey maps used to be paper backed with linen. I dont think that things would have changed much in 10 years.

Spudkopf 10-21-2010 12:00 PM

Didn't the Germans just use the Michelin Guide?

W32Blaster 10-21-2010 01:06 PM

... always used secret weapon:

google maps

:cool:

FG28_Kodiak 10-21-2010 01:18 PM

Luft Navigationskarte Deutschland 1938 (Air Navigation Map Germany 1938 ):
http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/dow...Europa1938.htm

ECV56_Lancelot 10-21-2010 01:33 PM

I beleive people are missing the point here, the problem is not the map since they already have it, the problem its the printing and the paper/plastic to use. And also the problem its make the printing that look like a BoB era map.

Luthier, i cant help on this, but i don't know if you have good relations with Eagle Dynamics, because you could talk to them since they released a printed map for DCS Black Shark of the Kuban area to be availabe as an extra purchase. They maybe could give a hint in the right direction.
Just a thought!

winny 10-21-2010 01:56 PM

British Escape maps were originally printed on silk (that was deemed unfit for parachutes) as silk became rarer they later printed them on Rayon.

They used pectin mixed with the ink which stopped bleed.

They also printed some on tissue.

Here's an early bartholomew Map

http://www.escape-maps.com/images/bl.../uk_2b_9ca.jpg

Got most of the info from here

The actual pilot's map was usually printed on heat treated paper but this varied from country to country.

NSU 10-21-2010 01:59 PM

Hi Luthier

you see the Maps from the Desastersoft IL2 Add-on?


http://www3.pic-upload.de/thumb/21.1...2pygmh782i.jpg

speculum jockey 10-21-2010 02:29 PM

There seems to be some sort of Communication Breakdown going on here. Let's take a closer look at Luthier's post and see if we can discern the secret meaning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 191343)
Hello everyone,
What exact material were the common pilot maps printed out for RAF and Luftwaffe in 1940?

Hmmm. . . pretty complicated,. Let's cut out some of the unnecessary stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 191343)
What exact material were the common pilot maps printed

Almost there!

Quote:

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 191343)
What exact material

Perfect!

What Material? As in what did they print the maps on?

a. Paper
b. Laminated paper
c. Rayon
d. The pilot's arm (tattoo)
e. Silk
f. Nylon
g. Deli meats

They are not asking you what to put on the maps, they are asking what to put the maps on!

Things they don't need:

Maps from AFTER the Battle of Britain.
Non-Pilot maps. (maps not used by pilots)
Pictures of the Map's Content.
Incredibly off-topic Italian Babbling about post-war maps.

If you don't know what the maps were printed on, then posting a picture of 1943 Poland is not going to help.

Personally, I'm probably going to rule out silk/rayon/nylon or any other fabric since the pilots didn't need to hide their flight maps and required something foldable but semi-rigid so they could see it properly. Take a tissue, draw a picture on it, then try and read it with one hand. Odd are, the material they are looking for is some manner of paper/laminated paper, or card-stock.

NSU 10-21-2010 02:34 PM

The Luftwaffe Briefing Room Map is made of Paper, some Maps are carton
for the Pilot is made of linen cloth and rubber (yellow Luftwaffe maps).

Drum_tastic 10-21-2010 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speculum jockey (Post 191514)
There seems to be some sort of Communication Breakdown going on here. Let's take a closer look at Luthier's post and see if we can discern the secret meaning.



Hmmm. . . pretty complicated,. Let's cut out some of the unnecessary stuff.



Almost there!



Perfect!

What Material? As in what did they print the maps on?

a. Paper
b. Laminated paper
c. Rayon
d. The pilot's arm (tattoo)
e. Silk
f. Nylon
g. Deli meats

They are not asking you what to put on the maps, they are asking what to put the maps on!

Things they don't need:

Maps from AFTER the Battle of Britain.
Non-Pilot maps. (maps not used by pilots)
Pictures of the Map's Content.
Incredibly off-topic Italian Babbling about post-war maps.

If you don't know what the maps were printed on, then posting a picture of 1943 Poland is not going to help.

Personally, I'm probably going to rule out silk/rayon/nylon or any other fabric since the pilots didn't need to hide their flight maps and required something foldable but semi-rigid so they could see it properly. Take a tissue, draw a picture on it, then try and read it with one hand. Odd are, the material they are looking for is some manner of paper/laminated paper, or card-stock.

Lol, love it!


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