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IceFire 10-15-2010 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SG1_Gunkan (Post 189967)
Please, show me a video with german AB bombs killing some hard ground unit, for example a single tank.


Thanks KG26_Alpha for the video. I hope that with the time all these kind of things get historically reworked.

Here we go:
http://cid-d368795040548bdd.office.l...-tankbust.ntrk

My joystick was a little funny so I didn't get the run I wanted but I did manage to kill 3 T-34 tanks with one AB500 bomb. Note the late pull out and 1.5 second bomb delay to cluster the bombs in a tight area.

Like I said... my best was 8 tanks with a single bomb.

IceFire 10-15-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 189687)
Apologies for clip quality.

4xAB500

Only 2 soft targets killed out of 50 trucks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQEHzZoKyhg

At 2500 meter pull out (or thereabouts) the area that you cover is going to be very wide. I guess that's the idea with a cluster bomb ... but if we're going for effective use... it's better to have a concentrated drop rather than a spread like that.

IceFire 10-17-2010 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceFire (Post 189987)
Here we go:
http://cid-d368795040548bdd.office.l...-tankbust.ntrk

My joystick was a little funny so I didn't get the run I wanted but I did manage to kill 3 T-34 tanks with one AB500 bomb. Note the late pull out and 1.5 second bomb delay to cluster the bombs in a tight area.

Like I said... my best was 8 tanks with a single bomb.

Did anyone have a look? Did what I posted help anyone?

Flanker35M 10-17-2010 08:42 AM

S!

Watched it. I did test similar approach, but the bomb seems very ineffective. The convoy I attacked lost 4 trucks, not a single tank and they were in the middle of the "cluster". I think the main gripe people have with the AB compared to the Russian counterpart PTAB is that it requires less hits to get more kills with PTAB than AB.

IceFire 10-17-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 190441)
S!

Watched it. I did test similar approach, but the bomb seems very ineffective. The convoy I attacked lost 4 trucks, not a single tank and they were in the middle of the "cluster". I think the main gripe people have with the AB compared to the Russian counterpart PTAB is that it requires less hits to get more kills with PTAB than AB.

As far as I know it only takes a single hit for both PTAB and the AB bomblets... the "problem" is that the PTAB is more like the modern bomblet dispensers that they use on Tornadoes... they drop and spread beneath the aircraft whereas the AB is a more abstract system. You drop the bomb... then it explodes... then you hope the bomblets hit the target.

I blew the timing yesterday online and the bomblet exploded as it hit the ground next to the tank meaning the bomblets burried themselves in the ground and did nothing.

Still if you time it right you can take out large numbers of tanks. Once again... I've managed to take out 8 in one AB500 drop... It was hard and the tanks were clustered but it is possible. You need to use the same approach that I did. The only thing I can't speak to is the actual modeling of the bomb and if that is accurate. I have no idea... I just try and make it work.

KG26_Alpha 10-17-2010 05:21 PM

Can anyone confirm this info for IL2 1946.

AB-250 Has SD-2 anti personnel fragmentation bombs

AB-500 Has SD-4 antiarmour bomblets

AB-1000 Has incendiary bombs

Thanks

rakinroll 10-17-2010 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceFire (Post 190508)
Still if you time it right you can take out large numbers of tanks. Once again... I've managed to take out 8 in one AB500 drop... It was hard and the tanks were clustered but it is possible. You need to use the same approach that I did. The only thing I can't speak to is the actual modeling of the bomb and if that is accurate. I have no idea... I just try and make it work.

Killing grounds with AB bombs should not be depending on "perfect timing and aiming ability". I think it would be easy same like in Russian alternative. Btw, thanks for the video.

SG1_Gunkan 10-17-2010 08:24 PM

Thank you very much Icefire, i will watch the video.le.

swiss 10-18-2010 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 190532)
Can anyone confirm this info for IL2 1946.

AB-250 Has SD-2 anti personnel fragmentation bombs

AB-500 Has SD-4 antiarmour bomblets

AB-1000 Has incendiary bombs Thermite bomblets

Thanks


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KG26_Alpha 10-18-2010 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by swiss (Post 190661)
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Thermite is what they used as incendiary surely ?

I was I suppose asking if some one with access to the weapons damage tables to have a look and see what's in there :)


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