agree, the only difference is that i use freetrack (a forbidden word here? :rolleyes:)

Has anyone tried both, FT and TIR?

What's the verdict?

Yup.

Tried TIR 4 and am currently running freetrack.
The pros and cons run something like this:

Freetrack

++ Cheep (~£6 + the cost of a cheep webcam)
+ Slightly more customizable software
+ Tracks great when set up right! As good as TIR4 for me

-- You need to build a LED device
- Software profiles are a lot of hassle to get right
- Webcams use some processing power that make it unsuitable for single core machines (you can get around this by using a wii remote. Not a problem on medium-high end machines)
- Software has occasional bugs

Track IR

++ Almost plug and play, little hassle
+ Tracks great!
+ Minimal CPU usage

-- Quite expensive
- Sometimes sensitive to sunlight (TIR4, dunno about TIR5. I had this problem with freetrack to, but it was easy to fix with a stronger light filter)

Well I doesnt work with a Cheap Webcam, you should buy a Wiimote 30€~. I have not had any issues with sunlight

QFT

I tried using hatswitch once after I got used to the TiR but I'm useless without TiR now. I can't believe why some people keep stalling getting a TiR for no other reason than scepticism.

And the fact TiR 5 is $170.00 :)

Sunlight *is* a problem, when the window is at one's back (=the wii or camera pointing at the window...)

I bought a TIR3 cam to try out with FT, now I managed to make this combo work - but only it works reliable in the FT gui.
(TIR Software works too, but due to the different positions(I guess) of the LEDs its feedback sux)
When I try it in IL2, I got major issues with stuttering.

Solution anyone?

Have been curious about TIR, but just too expensive for something I probably wouldn't like. The only advantage to me is 6DOF.
A hat with modifier button can easily be set up to give 17 view positions operated with just 1 thumb, and (for me) is totally instinctive to use. Personally I would be more inclined towards getting a throttle with second hat to use for the other 3DOF.
The nervous system of the hands have the amazing ability to learn tasks, and then offload control of them from the conscious mind (as any musician knows).
By contrast, head control seems very awkward. I can't think of any other system (except for disabled) that uses it.

Try FreeTrack (google for it as i don't know if link are allowed), it's not expensive if you already have a webcam, and you'll never go back.... :grin: