Best post evar!!! Well done.

whoa

So your point is ww2 planes and pilots were good, right? No argument here.

The only kinda "flip" maneuver I can find on the internet, is of planes rolling over onto their backs and continuing flying straight forward. Besides that, all I can think of are the maneuvers that were given on the first page?

i figured it out
 

travel a aircraft lets say a hurricane quite slow and high
enter 109, 109 hits hurricanes rudder with all three cannon shells
result flip
Sp1n-Sir did it to me earlier it looked like a flip...

that's exactly my point! a lot of planes went from concept to prototype within a scant few months and then into full production not too far from that. think of today and what has to happen for a plane to be "accepted" and "approved" by governments. they are almost obsolete by the end of the process. the boys that flew them didnt have 4 years of college or have a specific level of scholastic education ( yes they did have to master an acceptable level of FLIGHT training/education). i totally understand that aircraft are severely more complicated in this era..... but that doesnt necessarily mean they are better pilots.... in fact a college professor once told me, " the smarter we make machines the stupider become". this may be an overstatement but i do believe there is a hint of truth to it. most fighter aircraft now have 2 people doing what one did before. one flies the plane and the other operates the weapons systems.... that in itself is a commentary. yeah i believe the pilots then were better...and given their age... even more so. and like i said....all nationalities.

the only "flip" i can think of ( for these aircraft) would to execute half a snap roll. this is other than having one of your wings shot off of course. because of the quickness of the maneuver it would be a challenge. here are a couple videos i found....some are sim...some real

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bDGhKZbSEo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu3Bf...eature=related <<< best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy0Kk...eature=related <<<a yak 52 SR for our russian friends ( KOZZ and Soviet ace)

lest we also forget that today's planes also have sophisticated computer systems that aid the pilot in whatever they are doing and wouldn't fly without them. Back in WWII they were literally connected to the control surfaces by physical wires with no back up if they messed up.

I mean like these vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg1Gb...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIi_j...eature=related

those are more spins than anything. i dont know if you can get the aircraft in the game to copy that....you will have to experiment in sim, real, and arcade. but they told you right there what flight controls to use and how.

I know but He says them so fast that u barely understand the controls.