starforce killed two dvd writers in my pc's and it took me ages to get my system back to normal, never again !!

some form of copy protection should be used on BoB, to stop the average mr-citizen or the teens copying it for their buddies at school, but other then that the more aggressive and intrusive the DRM becomes, the more inconvenient it becomes to use the game for normal legitimate customers (like RoF not worth buying basically )and the more they will loose in sales. i suspect they will loose more in customers that way then actually gain.

i am sure oleg will find a sensible balance between protecting his program and not making it a major inconvenience to use, for ex by having a stricter owner check when going online versus standalone offline use etc..

Zapatista, the Starforce version that sometimes played "Terminator" isn't being used anymore.

The newer Starforce versions don't install any driver at all, and will remove itself after you type the activation code.

I don't see any disadvantage in this one. Ask any DCS player - problem-free and dumb-proof :mrgreen:

Equally though, I don't see any problem with someone avoiding a firm's products because they used to produce malware. Especially given their terrible customer service and blind insistence that it wasn't their copy protection that was causing problems. Also the fact that an administrator on their forum posted a link to a torrent of one of Stardock's games because they don't use copy protection to "demonstrate how easy it is to pirate a game". I wonder whether he searched for Starforce protected games at all...personally I think they were previously a slimy, underhanded company and whether they have changed their conduct is irrelevant to me.

#1. Have you heard the saying "not every bmw driver is an idiot, but every idiot has a bmw" ? well it's like that with computers now, there's no such thing as idiot proof. in fact user friendly had be more problematic when they don't have to any control. i had a midway game, it wasted about 45 minutes installing over 10 gigs and when it came to running the game it gives me "error: your comp doesn't meet requirements". i go to the forum and theres a hundred posts about the same problem. no support, just a big middle finger for buying their title. something tells me one of the cracked groups figured out a way to make it run regardless if you don't have one of the 3 nvidia cards that dam game supports.

#2. those 10-year olds know computers better than me or you, i know i used to be one. they don't give up either. and most of all they don't play spongebob. if i had Carmageddon and jpg's of porno loading at 14.4kbps, imagine what they have now.


Protection doesn't work. At best you'll keep them out of the fasted deticated servers and that should be enough for lovers to buy the game. But over zealous protection methods will fail epically, history has shown where there's a will there's a way.

the best thing you can hope for is to convince people to buy it. Don't make it $59.99 and have it stay there for 2 years. Don't have advertisements in your case, have a large manual, maps, cutouts of airplanes, coupons for $20 off CH joystick, anything!!! Have a user name you can register only with real copy and include stat tracking and things like that. People go crazy over that bullshit, no they die for it!! Even when it's anonymous, and you're playing against people you will never meet, some will waste valuable time to better their rankings. They'll cheat even. They'll forgot completely that the point of a game is its supposed to be fun. They care deeply about those things.

Have a nice case, special edition "P-51 Mustang! Greatest plane in history edition" (remember they're idiots ;-)) with a signed photo of Oleg with red lipstick kiss mark.

Have a mission in "3d" which require the free IL-2 3d glasses made out of paper which come with the game. or aviator glasses. good luck publishers, i hope you don't F this one up

is it being anal or fighting for something worthy
 

interesting debate on starforce i found:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvdaFRARu2M

double-click and go there:read the description first then read some of the comments on the first page. hmmm...