Makes me think of Henschel Hs129 suddenly ?

To be honest I don't think that Stalingrad is really a very good choice of battle for what is primarily still a flight-sim. That battle was a real slug-fest: advances measured in yards, mainly infantry combat with both sides close together and often indistinguishable; battles inside factories, rubbled buildings. There won't be much to see from the air. (and if the current engine can't even generate a London bus to bring even a semblance of life to a very sterile London, how are they going to make piles of rubble in Stalingrad look interesting?)

Great choice for something like Red Orchestra but not a flight-sim. Kursk would be a much better idea, though that may be pushing the time-line for the first Eastern Front instalment too far.

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On B6's latest posts, there does seem to be an increasing air of gloom underneath it all. Can be easy to read too much into the often cryptic statements but it is about time that someone from this company got a grip and realised that they don't need any more panic caused by poor or misleading communication.

So when is the BIG announcement going to come? Still slated for June or delayed?

The story has changed so completely in the last months, first with the confirmed shift of focus from COD to BOM, then the MMO announcement which cast a big question mark over previously stated plans.

I think we need and deserve some clarification and comment on all this.

Ken me old mate. The same was true of old IL2. But there was a Stalingrad Scenario and a Leningrad Scenario.

But don't get me wrong, there's no-one here who wants a decent Battle of Britain sim more than me. But these other theatres are what we all cut our teeth on. Nothing's changed there.:)

P.S. It's not the bloody BoM!!! I just spent hours of my day demonstrating this!!

:)

Yeah, I know there's a Stalingrad map in old il-2. But the city itself was a tiny part. My main point was about people expecting Red Orchestra in a flight-sim complete with intense battles going on in the city streets. Don't think it'll happen that way - and even if it does you won't see it from 3000ft up in a Ju88. You're more likely to get tasked to strafe a supply convoy 5 miles behind the lines.

And feel free to mentally substitute BOM with 'sequel' or whatever floats your boat. ;)
(though somebody complained about 'sequel' a few months back as well...)

Good matching of the google earth shot to the screenie though :shock:

Well thanks Kendo me ole mucker! I thought so, too! :grin:

you know, I miss the days when Oleg was still at the wheel, at least he wasn't a coward and came to talk with the customers, His Highness Luthier is either too snob (or more probably too embarrassed?) to show his face around here anymore. He speaks a perfect English yet he needs someone else to give the (bad) news about the sim that obviously will never be completed.

We're one year after release now and we still don't have a finished product, well done for having defrauded thousands of customers Maddox Games!!

If there's one thing that I've learned since the modders' community flourished is that there was still so much that could be squeezed out of IL-2, yet the poor decisions of the devs made for a badly managed choice of starting a project that was surely great on paper, but lacked something that you simply can't buy: talent and modesty (and there's SO much of it out there! Have you tried the IL-2 1946 Hs129 or the Do217?! Not to mention all the work for the jet era... These folks shell out gems FOR FREE!).

You ruined the experience for a lot of people, I hope you realise that. Uh and for the record, most of us don't care for your Battle of Moscow, you're AGAIN doing the mistake of releasing something that YOU like, but that doesn't take into account the taste of your CUSTOMERS.

We don't often agree Stern, but Amen.


It's not the bloody Battle of Moscow!!! :evil::grin:

Aren't most of their CUSTOMERS Russian?

you see? Miracles DO happen! ;)

well last time I checked I didn't see any La5 in the MTO or PTO, so the ring tightens to that part of the world that has very dull landscapes and aeroplanes that nobody but a certain (read Russian) customer base gives a rat's bottom about..

Oh great. Here come the guys who ruin decent debate. Smashin, eh?