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Igo kyu 11-06-2010 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaQSoN (Post 196038)
You'd be surprised, but "mass of the party" would be like 25% of adult population of the USSR at the time. May be, even more.

Loss of Moscow would mean loss of connection between South-Eastern and Northern part of the country. Basically, all the area north of Moscow, including Leningrad and Murmansk would have been cut off from the rest of the USSR. Not to mention a huge moral drop, should the city be lost. Plus, loss of the whole industrial region around Moscow.
So, it may not be an end, but a terrible disaster for the country - most definitely. What could happen then - who knows? Quite probably, Japan would join the war against the USSR too, after this. So...

Oh yeah, it was a fight worth winning for sure.

I just don't see an immediate surrender on the loss of Moscow. Leningrad would have been in trouble, but the idea of collapse in total seems unlikely. Though granted, I don't know the country.

fruitbat 11-06-2010 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff (Post 196039)
german raid Britain completly. 90% of all citys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but Never Bomb Moscow.:eek:


your history books are crap. buy some new ones.

first air raid on moscow, 21st july 1941, 87 raids by 5th april '42

as to 90% of all cities in BoB, where did you get that crap from, lol.

seriously, buy some new books, cause yours are hopeless.

Catseye 11-06-2010 03:42 PM

Philip,
I just did a quick google and came up with these links.

http://www.spitfirespares.com/spitfi...es/relics.html

See item 60 and 66 below.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=6gFz...supply&f=false


Hope these help.



Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 195982)
Yes, I knew it was on the spit so I just assumed the same was true for the Hurri!
So is it true, or not? I'd be interested to know. I have a number of detailed pics like that of the spit cockpit, but none of the Hurricane :(


zakkandrachoff 11-06-2010 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fruitbat (Post 196043)
your history books are crap. buy some new ones.

first air raid on moscow, 21st july 1941, 87 raids by 5th april '42

as to 90% of all cities in BoB, where did you get that crap from, lol.

seriously, buy some new books, cause yours are hopeless.



ok, i know that german raids over moscow was poors compared with BOB: very low charge of bombs, and incendiary bombs, only to panic the russian center population. offices, theaters and goberment buldings the common bombing target . But not big deal.

The battle are 50-150km west of Moscow.

only i want is that oleg don't do a moscow city battle small scenario.
But compared whit battle of britain, we have more different planes to choose. nice

"The Moscow area PVO had at its disposal the 6 IAK/PVO, which comprised of 29 fighter regiments with 585 fighters: "
- 170 MiG-3s
- 95 Yak-1s
- 75 LaGG-3s
- 200 I-16s
- 45 I-153s
maybe Mk II Hurricanes


axis

Bf 109E-3
Bf 109E-7
Bf 109F-2
Bf 109F-4
Bf 110

Re 2000s
CR.42s
B-534-I

maybe...
He 112;)
51 C.200s (Corpo Italiano di Spedizione in Russia).

http://www.journal.forces.gc.ca/vo9/.../Canuel-6t.jpg

Hecke 11-06-2010 05:05 PM

Here, more video of the presentation. With more ingame footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XM4clzfuyE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlmqzIUjfVw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt_izejse64

Sven 11-06-2010 05:18 PM

thank you hecke! some nice official videos :)

major_setback 11-06-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaQSoN (Post 195933)
It looks, like nobody at the fair didn't find out, that the defensive guns could be controlled in 2 ways. I.e. in the Ju-88 rear gunner, you can also rotate the whole gun mount (circular window), plus the gun within it. Hence, this particular gun has 3 DoF. ;)

What I especially liked was that 'your' eye followed the gun and gunsight along the barrel..I have never seen this in a sim before..I hope it will be that way, and isn't just my imagination.
Usually you just see the gun from a rear position, not aligned with the sights.

Solnyshko 11-06-2010 05:41 PM

Non procedural bail

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http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...9066930023.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...9066961219.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...9066983563.jpg

You'd want strong arms and a lot of faith, trying to pull this off

Avala 11-06-2010 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodolphe (Post 195957)
...


An incompleted list of available vehicles : ;)

http://sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.ph...3&d=1288997283

Protze Kfz. 69
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/k/kr...e_Baydeww2.jpg

Albion AM 463
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/albion1.jpg


Fiat OCI 708
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/OCI.jpg

The "could be" FN 63C tractor
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/FN63.jpg


Sd. Kfz 252
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/252i.jpg


Ford G917
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/f/39for3ton.jpg


Austin K2 ATV
http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=yw...=90&noresize=1


Sd. Kfz. 11
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ch%C3%BCtz.jpg


Opel Blitz
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pi...opel_blitz.jpg


30cwt Morris CDSW
http://www.ianhardy.net/gallery/main..._4032l_std.jpg


Unic P-107
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Unic.jpg


Morris CS8
http://www.reocities.com/vk3cz/cs8-12.jpg


SPA TL 37
http://www.centoventesimo.com/mezzi/...a_tl_37_06.jpg


BMW R 71
http://www.pwbrowning.com/r71/index-Images/0.jpg


Scammell Pioneer SV2S
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/SV2.jpg


A.10 Tilly
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Tilly.jpg


Scammell Pioneer TRMU 30
http://www.armyvehicles.dk/images/scammelltrmu30_1.jpg


Austin K2
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../800px-K21.JPG

Sd. Kfz 10/1
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...enfahrzeug.jpg

...

But you didnt find the number one on the list "Madox, sports car". I would love to see that one http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/froehlich/d040.gif


http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/froehlich/g005.gif

SlipBall 11-06-2010 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solnyshko (Post 196074)
Non procedural bail
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...9066983563.jpg

You'd want strong arms and a lot of faith, trying to pull this off


I'll be waiting for the wet top shot:grin:...how do you get that chic in the plane, does she run across a field and jump in?


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