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wolfhound338 12-13-2011 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGrunch (Post 369645)
That's all very nice, but most of us didn't buy the game to continue programming the multiplayer UI for the developers, we were all rather expecting that the basics would be down and C# scripting would be a cheeky bonus for advanced users rather than a compulsory step for half-decent coop play. I don't go to a restaurant and order steak with peppercorn sauce, then expect the chef to bring me a raw steak with some lovely peppercorn sauce in a jug, and then hand me a pan and apron and tell me to "get on with it then!"

I really should change my name to the 'Person who reads here 5 times a day' and never posts....... BUT Grunch has a point there.........

Darat : i am, as allways.................watching HERE, EVEN when you are working!

On a more serious note, I read here a serious lot and play when i can get enough 'guys' whom I play other games with to do so. Having not the TrackIR is off putttttttttttting though.

I still play the game guys and have been shot down may times in my camof or what ever you call it, many times! ( I like to see how long i can live :P )

All the same guys i wait ( and WATCH ) for the Patch that will make this a bit more playable for me and MOAR importantly the SDK.

I wait in the WINGS guys...................wait in the Wings.

jayrc 12-13-2011 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGrunch (Post 369645)
That's all very nice, but most of us didn't buy the game to continue programming the multiplayer UI for the developers, we were all rather expecting that the basics would be down and C# scripting would be a cheeky bonus for advanced users rather than a compulsory step for half-decent coop play. I don't go to a restaurant and order steak with peppercorn sauce, then expect the chef to bring me a raw steak with some lovely peppercorn sauce in a jug, and then hand me a pan and apron and tell me to "get on with it then!"

We have a restaurant here where you cook your own food, different strokes I guess, that said, what does any of this have to do with IL2, all these analogies? The game is very playable right now, they've given us patches, updates, great sound, new patch coming soon, alot of stuff coming, add-ons. This is going to be the greatest ww2 sim for a very long time, be patient!

Bobb4 12-13-2011 07:34 AM

Seriously, the thing that scares me the most is they (the developers) have moved on to Battle for Moscow. Admitedly we will get all the merged goodies but at the price of buy a new standalone sim?
Just how stupid do they think we are? We have the Royal Navy represented by a German mine sweeper the grand total of ten flyable planes, and no I amnot counting variants of the same plane.
We have a dedicated few people, unpaid I might add working to figure out exactly how the FM builder, scripts and a whole host of other things work.
And we have the developers saying they do not have the time to write a guide to how the FMB works.
This was the sim that was supposed to take over from Il2, and yes with the inclusion of the battle of Moscow it should be getting there...
The problem is what will they skimp on in that sim.
I am definately not going to be an instant buyer of that one, that is for sure. I will give it a good six month waiting period before purchase. If hindsight was worth anything i would never have bought Clod, it sits on my machine, last time played a month ago...
So maybe, just maybe, the developers should take a good hard look at their development model and decide to deliver on a few of the empty promises they have made or throw in the towel and leak the SDK to interested third parties that can give a good shining

TomcatViP 12-13-2011 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobb4 (Post 369691)
...We have the Royal Navy represented by a German mine sweeper the grand total of ten flyable planes, and no I amnot counting variants of the same plane.
...
This was the sim that was supposed to take over from Il2...

C'mon those were not planes but floating ghosts.

We are lucky here to get a serious job on most FM with tremendous graphics.

You can always compare a fine glass of Bordeaux with a pint of beer and say you can get more burps out of one :evil:;)

Ataros 12-13-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 369490)
Ataros would be the one to ask.. But I am pretty sure you can do all that with the 'new' CoD C# script..

It is possible with naryv's COOP script or its modification (AI is put on hold till all players are ready.) http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...537#post354537
However a debriefing screen is not included into the script and has to be added by a C# programmer.

GUI would be a nice option though.

TheGrunch 12-13-2011 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jayrc (Post 369672)
We have a restaurant here where you cook your own food, different strokes I guess, that said, what does any of this have to do with IL2, all these analogies? The game is very playable right now, they've given us patches, updates, great sound, new patch coming soon, alot of stuff coming, add-ons. This is going to be the greatest ww2 sim for a very long time, be patient!

I'm not complaining, I just don't understand the people who say "don't work on this because if you install <insert unsupported user modification here> it's kind of fixed in a not particularly pretty or satisfying way".

Also, on the restaurant thing, does sound quite nice actually...but cooking your own food is a lot quicker than cooking your own game when someone else is getting paid to do it. ;)

ACE-OF-ACES 12-13-2011 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 369835)
It is possible with naryv's COOP script or its modification (AI is put on hold till all players are ready.) http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...537#post354537

Cool! Thanks for the info!

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Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 369835)
However a debriefing screen is not included into the script and has to be added by a C# programmer.

Roger.. still nice to know you could make a debreifing screen.. Some are under the impression that is not doable

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Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 369835)
GUI would be a nice option though.

Agreed 100%

Allons! 12-13-2011 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobb4 (Post 369691)
We have the Royal Navy represented by a German mine sweeper..

Yep, it took ssome time but finally we made it :grin:

AMVI_Superblu 12-14-2011 10:56 AM

Number 6 ...
that's funny it's not a cosmetic it's SIMULATION.... lol

O_Smiladon 12-14-2011 08:33 PM

Hay Black six,

Do you think we will see anything before christmas???


Thanks for your efforts as well.

And to everyone else "Merry Christmas":grin:

O_Smiladon


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