Big-Pickle: aye, I remember there being some comment regarding hedgerows, but then again, a lot of things were said in those development threads.
The team must have a massive list of features which can be added or improved, and rumours are that many features are there, but haven't been completed by the team for inclusion in the sim....(or are there, but haven't been unlocked yet)

ideally, development would be thus:
-bugs are fixed so the game is nice and smooth
-features are improved
-the team announces new features, or present features which have been drastically changed e.g a new weather system, with realistic clouds (yes Dutch! the clouds are rather poor afterall :cool: )

-once the game has been improved to a level where it is rather awesome, tools can then be sent out to the community for an administered modding effort, or a community modding effort which won't affect online play (with the banning system in place, a modding community like SAS could propser nicely).

hopefully this would enable the game to work it's way to becoming a stand-out BoB simulator.

a man can dream :cool:

It seems unrealistic to simulate lots of smoke from fireplaces for a battle that was fought in the summer.

Here are four views of Manston, two from 1940 and two from now-ish.

1) VFR 'Real Scenery'
2) GEX (Ground Environment Europe)
3) IL2
4) Cliffs of Dover

All taken at 12.30pm in mid-summer, with clear skies. :)

well the second one is rubbish beyond belief.

il2 as much as i like it isn't particularly good, kinda springish if you try hard, but works fine in il2.

the first one although ugly, is pretty good colour wise for this time of year (april/may), but rubbish for summer, ie BoB, plus wrong crops for BoB.

Clodo, if the trees were the right mix of colours (there far to light green), is actually passable, but the tress are all wrong really, and there loads of trees here in SE Kent.... I'm not really sure what the fields are supposed to represent either, but hey ho. Its a kinda generic 'fit'

with some work on the trees, it would be by far the best imo....

heres some pics i took last summer (aug) when i was working, gives you some idea of the trees.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...6082010015.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...9082010022.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...3082010010.jpg

tress will always appear darker because of the fact they cast shadow on themselves.

London in 1940 was very smoggy.. Industry didn't just stop because it was summer, and fireplaces were still lit... (I just asked my great uncle who lived in London in 1940 and watched the battle overhead)

Haze is visable in these shots from summer 1940.

http://blog.hopeglory.com/wp-content.../02/london.jpg

http://files.myopera.com/edwardpierc...on-1940-2.jpeg

http://www.museumoflondonprints.com/...n/4/129179.jpg

http://www.arts.ac.uk/alumni/images/.../berthardy.jpg

Haze over London would be realistic. Have over all of England, not so much.

disagree, England is often hazy in summer today.

compared to other countries i've lived in its something i've always noticed, especially Australia.

you can see it in the photos i've posted above from last summer, and there about as clear a day as you get.

Clod does this really well.

I agree, the GEX stuff is very poor, and cost far more than it's worth.

The VFR scenery looks terrible in Kent, but looks much better in Wales , although there're no dynamic shadows, and no buildings, grass or trees on the ground. That 'add-on' cost the same as the CoD Collector's Edtition.

The IL2 map still has those 'layered' forests and 3D trees, but of course was free.

As for colour, here's a shot I just took out of the window with my phone (note dead palm tree from the frosts of December).

The colour mix there matches quite well with CoD methinks.

Trees are the greenest now, than they'll be for the rest of the year as the leaves have just come out. They'll just get darker now, as the seasons roll on.

Its the fact that they cast shadow on themselves that makes them look darker anyway, some part is always in shadow......

Did i mention i'm a tree surgeon by the way, lol.

Fancy doing a freebie on a palm tree?!:grin: