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Originally Posted by BG-09 (Post 188622)

Hey Major, the archery at the flight field is perfect way to learn and feel the balistics for the unexperienced pilots...Oleg have to include such tuition for the novices...it is historical.
/I know I will be banned for Couterstrike trolling.../
~Regards!

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Originally Posted by RedToo (Post 188230)

Are the targets in the fourth screen shot for syncronising a fighters guns?

RedToo

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Originally Posted by MD_Titus (Post 188234)

could be... would need a bench or some kind of frame to lift the tail of the fighter. whilst cool, would it really add anything for such a feature, that is to say - would it be used more than a couple of times.

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Originally Posted by Splitter (Post 188245)

I would have to say that is what those targets on the ground are for. Archers usually do not want to shoot their precious arrows into wood :). Bails of hay and the like are preferred.

Splitter

I haven't seen the video above because I choose not to install flash.

I have to agree with the last, archery targets are straw, with a canvas front, as in the lower photo above, besides being better for the arrows, that sort of target is more durable. Durability is why those wooden targets probably aren't for aircraft guns either, after being hit by a 100 round burst, they'd be matchwood. I don't know what they're for, I think rifle targets are paper, maybe the wooden ones are for airgun darts? Supposing they are targets at all, which the variation of the banding makes perhaps unlikely.

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Originally Posted by Igo kyu (Post 188642)

A wild guess: are they something to do with painting roundels on aircraft??

RedToo.

I think they are for adjusting the guns by use of a periscope.
You place the target the set distance away then adjust the alignment of the guns by using a periscope attachment.

The test firing was usually into something similar to this..

http://www.independent.co.uk/multime...nd_400990t.jpg

I have a picture in a book of an armourer using the periscope on a spitfire but the photo dosn't show what he's 'aiming at'. It is being done out on the airfield in the photo so there would have been no actual test firing. Just aligning.

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Originally Posted by Igo kyu (Post 188642)

Get Flash, it will save me having to do screencaptures! :-)

Thanks Richie for the video! It is obviously a training target looking at that footage.

The video shows German airmen in a pillbox witnessing target practice. It all looks staged, but is no doubt an authentic recreation of a training method. I think it is the cannon on a bf109 that is being used for this practice.

Interesting tracers from the cannon! Photographed by a stationary camera on the ground.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ack/targ01.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ack/targ07.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ack/targ05.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ack/targ02.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ack/targ08.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ack/targ06.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ack/targ03.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ack/targ04.jpg

I believe the "aircraft" and even the "shoot" part are done with models and movie FX (of the time): the impacts do not look right, but the worst is the last passage of the 109: with this attitude, it should have been crashing two frames later....If you watch the video you will see it with the same attitude flying almost level!

So I would not put too much faith into the tracer behaviour...

JV

Well,in Flyboys they used such targets but the pilot was on the ground.

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Originally Posted by MD_Titus (Post 188641)

HERESY!

no surprise - who'd want Wales?!

Me.
It's bloody gorgeous.

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Originally Posted by JVM (Post 188683)

I believe the "aircraft" and even the "shoot" part are doen with maquettes and movie FX (of the time): the impacts do not look right, but the worst is the last passage of the 109: with this attitude, it should have been crashing two frames later....If you watch the video you will see it with the same attitude flying almost level!

So I would not put too much faith into the tracer behaviour...

JV

I agree something doesn't look quite right. Movement of the plane does look strange in that last passing shot. It is staged, and edited, and shot in the studio (cockpit shots) to some extent. But the main points of the film remain - it depicts target practice with painted targets, and the tracers look authentic, though I agree they may be 'blanks'.

well, I am waiting for 15 :)