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face it.... BOB SOW is not going to be for us anymore.
We are not getting any younger... It is time to let the younger generation fight our battles. It is time to go fellow pilots... just ..let ...it ..go. But let us cherish the battles we fought and the fun we had. Tree UK jr., Feuerfalke jr. and reggiane jr. etc. will be the new BOB SOW pilots from now on. We oldtimers can look back at hundreds and hundreds of planes we crashed and shot down. We can be proud in knowing we played IL2 for many many hours trying to catch and shoot down those illusive Oleg maddox-crew teammembers online. I bow and salute you my comrades it has been an honour to have served on (or against) your side. long live IL2 Long live BOB SOW horrido :rolleyes: Either that or BOB will be released next week and we will be playing BOB SOW happily for the next 10 years or so. whatever comes first. ;) |
"I plan"
What's that old saw about the best laid plans of mice and men....? |
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Kind of optimistic that it will be released that soon aren't you?:grin: Flyingbullseye |
@ Reggiane
"Tree UK jr., Feuerfalke jr. and reggiane jr. etc. will be the new BOB SOW pilots from now on." LMAO Reg, I fear we may have had our day....You can count "Orville jr." amongst them too :D. Maybe you're right.....Its time to let go. Whitney Houston Song (The Greatest Love of all)...... "I believe the Children are our future, Teach them well and let them lead the way, Show them all the beauty the possess inside. Give them a sense of pride, to make it easier, Let the Childrens laughter, remind us how we used to be".......... :grin::grin: |
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When I was talking to Ubisoft about SOW, I told them that pre-orders were being taken at play.com stating that Ubi were the publishers, James O'Riely told me he would look into this because he did not want Ubi's name assoiciated with the title, looking at play.com's recent advert for SOW they have indeed removed ubisoft's name.
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Just forget about SOW for now, and join in on the DT divershion from any foolish SOW desires:-P
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I'm sure work is being done on the sim but the silence only leaves you wondering what is really going on. Oleg has made a habit of not coming through on practically every promise regarding the sim. I kind of wonder if the project really has been canceled for some time now and Oleg and a few of his more devoted team members are trying to finish the project as a indi sim and not let on, maybe out of embarrassement as he doesn't want to let the community/fans down. All of which could be for the lack of updates and so forth. Again its just a thought.
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Did these things permanantly sully the relation between developer and publisher? |
Flyingbullseye...i think your spot on mate.
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I remember waiting for 1946 to be released & when I got it it contained 2 discs, one for the game & the other containing development shots, film, etc of SOW. That was back in 2007 (I think that was when 1946 was released)
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I was there when Oleg announced SOW in person at the Birmingham flight sim show in 2004!!! beat that!
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LOL :grin: (i was really there though)
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I feel something is coming, Nearmiss has cleared out the questions and requests thread to make room for all the replies Oleg is about to make, good work son. :grin:
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well...he going to need the room, hes got about 4 months worth of questions to catch up on.
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I was at a wedding back in Dec 03. One of the guests looked exactly like the pictures I've seen of Oleg Maddox. He dressed rather European verses the standard U.S. style of dress. He had an accent, but his English was pretty good. Somewhat stilted, but very good none the less. I WAS going to ask him if he was the creator of IL2. The chances being so astronomical I didn't bother. To this day the likeness was so uncanny I kinda wish I asked. Let's hope nearmiss' cleaning up is a good omen. |
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Sad for you, though, as my God is listening, though he doesn't call me back on the phone, as well as I'm sure Oleg reads these questions, though he might not be willing to answer these questions right now. ;) |
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1. Considering Oleg posted several times, that he doesn't have the time to log in from his office-PC to the forums, why do you deny the possibility that he still accesses the forum from another PC and/or without logging in? I didn't log in over half a year here, but visited the website at least twice a day over that period of time. 2. Just because we sometimes have different opinions on things doesn't mean I wish you something bad. We both have our ideas about things and post them. That's not hatred, that discussing different opinions. |
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Feuerfalke!!! How could you?!?!!?? |
Could this be the start of a new Bro-mance between Tree and 'sweetpants' Feuerfalke?
Will Tree ruin it with another cynical post? Will Nearmiss come out of the closet and confess to be being a regular visitor to a well known mod site? Is furbs Tree's love child? Is Oleg fighting a legal battle with Robert over the rights to SOW's name? stay tuned folks... :grin: |
My god!
I just came back from a few days of vacation and had prepared a rather disappointed posting to this thread, as it is no news today either, and September is definitively coming to an end. But these last two pages made me laugh so much that I forgot the whole 'disappointed'- speach I had prepared! The last post of Tree_UK summed it up just like the end of every "Soap"-sitcom episode in the early eightis.. Skarphol |
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Not me. At this point, I'm just too apathetic to even use the 4 calories of energy it would take to type it out. |
I never thought for a second that Oleg would actually post anything this month. One might argue that in that respect, he didn't disappoint.
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What are we looking forward to now? Has anyone heard anything from Oleg since that last interview over at SimHQ? I suppose the guys from Team Daedalus has contact with him, but they don't share information about anything regarding SOW-BOB.. Skarphol |
Well, for all we know, Oleg may have been doing java based mobile phone games for the last 2 years, but as he's got a sense of humor he releases some of the old left over 3D model dumps with blue background now and then to see how long he can keep us quibbeling over nothing over here ;) UBI denies all connections to Maddox, 1C never mention MG at game shows etc... It could be true ;)
Anyway, 4.09 seems to be on it's way in about two weeks or so, which makes me happy anyway! |
somewhere in the world...
It's October already. To those who feel like you were jilted at the altar, harden your hearts. Life is full of things, and disappointment is one of them. Remember every cloud has a silver...awww CRAP!!! I was looking forward to a September update too. I guess the lesson is learned; live life with lowered expectations when it comes to software designers and politicians. They'll burn ya every time.
Flyby out (not even a word to explain the delay. man, that's rough) |
SoW is really the codename for pach 4.09 final.
Shhh, dont tell anyone. |
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As a veteran of this sort of thing, I'd advise you Not to get your hopes up for this year. The usual pattern of events is for the content to be submitted to MG. It languishes in their office for an extended period. In the meantime, 3rd party contributors (DT) continue to finish off other content. This makes the release of the original patch seem uneconomical, and it is eventually decided to roll the new content into the current patch as well. The cycle of testing, compiling and waiting begins again. Personally I don't expect 409 before April 2010. |
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Flyby out |
Where is SoW? lol
yawn... |
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Wow thats almost an ingame shot!
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Go on, Viikate....make today the day you prove them all wrong....
you know you want to... |
@Malone: isn't September gone yet ? :P
anyway, don't waste time here and help me adjusting my seat belts ;) S! d. |
Yeah, must posted in the wrong thread....
I don't see any option for smileys when I make a post, whatsup with that? Ok bye, must go...its babe of the week day today... |
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Just downloaded mine. Veeery happy to be wrong too!
Extracted to a subfolder first for a look see. Interesting stuff. Now to give it a whirl.... :-P |
The lack of updates is disappointing really.
I've seen more updates on the not to be mentioned ever so naughty and ever so forbidden mod sites. Those good people produced planes and update pictures by the wagonloads. And they DO have other jobs and do this kind of work in their spare time. Now why can Oleg not be botherd to post a screeny or two here or even on some vague website nobody has ever heard off? It is part of his job to keep his customers interested in his companies work. If the good man fails to do so he is not doing his job very well. It could be wise to start to contact any of Olegs other partners or teamworker to discuss Olegs place in the company. It is time for revolution! No more Olegs tiranny !!! free the people free BOB SOW from the evil tirant and his evil plans. The fact that not a single of Olegs programmers or coworkers have contacted the outside world is a tell tale sign something is wrong in Olegs office. Those poor people have been taken hostage , enprisoned in their own workplace. I bet there are dungeons under Olegs office where the poor Maddox team is forced to work under not so very comfortabele working conditions. Those poor people are forced to attend to hours long office meetings and hear endless amounts of accounting dialog. No my fellow pilots it is time to end the horror. Call the Spetznats the navy seals or even better the famed Dutch marines to finally free the poor Maddox team and end the evil tyranny of Oleg. ---> ;) |
reggiane, are you for real?
You're a damned ungrateful bugger, is all I can say. I'm from team of one of the 'forbidden' mod sites, and if you talk like this there, I would ban you without comment. Really, if you don't like it, keep it to yourself... |
malone...err...you know that its a joke right??...you really cant be serious that you dont understand that??
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@malone
for your info. I was talking praise to the mods people not trying to insult them or commenting on their work. And I was talking about the lack of info from Oleg about SOW BOB not the patch. I have the highest regard for the modders and never understood why Oleg was so against the modding people in the first place.( other than online cheating possibilities). Mods made Oblivion and fallout3 the succes that they are still today. Most people do not play IL2 online so no problems with mods there. The modding community either banned by Oleg or allowed with the new patch-team has made IL2 a much better game and deserve more praise by Oleg then they have had till now. And yes my little calling for revolution against Oleg was a joke not to be taking too seriously. :rolleyes: like duh. |
ok, reggiani, if you say you were joking, I'll accept that.
I still fail to see the praise, and I doubt anyone else will see the funny part of it either, as it stands. Maybe the humour went right over the top of my shallow head... |
That's ok
No worries I've been designing real aircraft for more then 25 years now so I know how it feels when people comment on your work. |
Reggiane does raise a good point though in that we hear nothing at all from Oleg's team, if there is one. We know that Ilya (Oleg's right hand man) has moved to America which is strange if we believe what Oleg has told us that SOW will be released within a year. To lose such a key man at such a crucial time must hurt somewhat. Apart from Ilya and a mention from Oleg of some nameless modders, who else is actually working on the project fulltime?
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tree that is exactly the point I was trying to make.
(almost)All of the BOB SOW info we got sofar was from Oleg himself not from anyone else. I have no idea how big the company is but as there has been no leakage at all from Olegs team for so many years one could be lead to believe that either BOB SOW is a one man effort :shock: OR Oleg keeps his crew under a very serious embargo NOT to let ANY details of the game slip. As English is my 5th language I was unable to communicate this properly to poor old bigbossmalone my apologies if I did not get the message across well enough. |
no worries reggiani - like I said, when I read it initially it just looked like you were letting rip in a big way, but after a few more reads, its probably not that bad...
Some (most) of your points are pretty valid, but I just felt the attacking Oleg part was a bit heavy-handed. All good, though, please carry on and never mind me...I'm still trying to work off last nights hangover, as well, which probably doesn't help.... |
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well...give Oleg a poke to remind him about the bleeding screenshots! :)
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It has become apparent to me that Oleg is a Con artist. People like Tree and Furbs and Reg see this stone cold reality, because they are not blinkered by the EPIC FOG OF BROWN NOSERY.:grin:
Perhaps Oleg is not a Con artist, and perhaps he will come on here and defend himself. Then again, perhaps wombles will fly, back to their homeland of Timbuktoo. Revolution is in the air.:grin::grin::grin: |
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I think it is fair to assume that SOW:BOB now has reached that certain stage. Whatever stage that is. That should clear things up, I guess!! Skarphol |
Really Oleg is in the wrong business he should never have been in the sim making game at all!
The man should have been a top ranking spy for the russian secret service. I mean if he would ever get caught he would under no amount of verbal torture let any usefull information out to anyone! :cool: I am not dissing Oleg I have the greatest respect for the man that produced the best flight sim ever made until this day. My semi-funny comments are just me venting my frustration for the lack of more information and the wait for BOB SOW to be finally in the stores. And of course I am trying in vain to intice the man to post the mother of all updates here to prove us all wrong. But alas I have yet been unsuccesfull. link to youtube movie from spanish su-26 pilots venting their frustration in a more fun way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdbHseyjIU |
that would be pre-alpha with no screen shot stage?
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I thought Oleg said he wouldn't finish 4.09 until after SOW, because he was too busy. Anyway i'm going to forget about SOW, its quite clear its years away.
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Tree, are you saying that you were wrong on the "march 2010" (or was it april?) estimate??? NOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Well, nevermind, I'm actually having really fun with 4.09. Seriously. I'll continue the nagging, whining and bitching about SOW-BOB on monday. Skarphol |
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Actually I believe he said that he couldn't spend time on the patch til "SoW" was practically done...but sense "Team Daidalus" did much of the work, I'm not sure that the comment still applies. You are probably better off forgetting about "SOW"...you really do seem to have a problem with waiting. I'll bet you drove your parents crazy; "when do we get their?", "You said I could eat at McDonalds!", "your a hypocrite...". You should just sit back and enjoy the new patch....Its all just part of life. ;) |
I'm really starting that my last post a couple of pages back may be correct.
That the project really has been canceled for some time now and Oleg and a few of his more devoted team members are trying to finish the project as a indi sim and not let on, maybe out of embarrassment as he doesn't want to let the community/fans down. All of which could be for the lack of updates and so forth. Anyone in the know (cough cough Oleg or anyone working on the sim) please tell me I'm wrong and that September hasn't actually arrived in Russia yet. In any case why another broken promise? Flyingbullseye |
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409 should help us to pass the time while we wait for SOW...I'm downloading it right now, sounds real good!:cool:
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Why are you in this thread? There is a 'Friday and its October' thread now! ;)
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