I think Impossible Mage is probably the hardest thing in the game (without giving yourself extra limitations like no Paladins or something), so that'll be a reasonable challenge. From memory you used to get annoyed about people finishing the game in 5 days or whatever it was. They are doing the same with AP now. :rolleyes: But that's no fun to me, trying to plan out every little thing I am going to do in the game to cut down the time. The best I've managed is 28 days and I doubt I can be bothered replaying the game again to cut that down. Happy New Year to you. :)

i replayed my last game and made this

7days +lv59 = 1850
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...1&d=1261972275

need 16000 EXP to reach lv60(one more ancient knowledge would make it)

Since i didn't use pet dragon to dig for at least 50 fights, it's quiet possible to find the scroll in 150 chests. But i it's impossible to reach lv61 unless got mass(20-30?) ancient knowledge~~~

I just finished my first play through, as a warrior on impossible.

Score: 1,563 and 12 days to complete.

Pretty fun game although I think the difficulty has not been distributed well.

I found Verona/Monteiro to be a reasonable challenge when I first got up to them, but after that everything became an easy landslide - i beat K'tahu in 3 turns with only 2 units attacking him.

On par with the original and gets a thumbs up overall.

ok,

I might have a crack at the record. (+no loss)

I've scanned a lot of save games and got a save game with the scaly set by montero mines and twinkling boots in Elon.

I'll have to check for hand of necropolis too, but I suspect they won't be needing till late game.

Basically I'm not kiting at the start, in case there are scroll guardians I can't beat, plus it's faster to not kite, although I might need to do *some* later on.

Playing Mage so, 1st I'll clear debir, ->
Skills-> get to 350 leadership with the pal skill. -> then get the mana regen for mage, then 30% learning pal skill. This will be hard because I won't have chaos magic for a while, and I hope fire arrow will be enough.

Do you think that the dragon bash should be upgraded at the start to make the first battles easier ? Obviously, it's almost useless later on. Probably have 2 stacks of inquisitors to get rage.

I might get a call of undead wander scroll or call colossus would be nice at this point.

Scarlet - I'll get 3 slots for arch mages to cast magic armour, every round for ten rounds until I get armor ahievement. Might need to change config for the harder battles. I'm not sure if it's possible to clear scarlet at the start but I'll give it whirl.
I know you need to come back to it later on for a annoying quest.

I'll prob skip bolo If i can and hit rusty anchor in search of a green dragon, like what unicornxp does.

I'll need to figure out the "primary key" of the shortest paths to locations that also fulfils every quest. Anyone have that primary key ?

Here you can find info on the shortest routes:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=12249

Mage, Impossible, No unit loss and almost single stack :).

7 days with a score of 1821.

http://img94.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=screen1vs.jpg

Link to the screens. Also added one where I beat Baal with 30 bone dragons in the end.

Grats Chase! Your result is great and you most certainly managed to master the game :)

I find it perplexing that you can finish the game in 7 days with 86 quests completed. Do you clear up each island in one fell swoop and hardly, if ever, return there at all? :confused:

I haven't finished the game, but I am going for a fast run as well. I believe it is actually a requirement to take out all enemies in an island if you can if you don't need to go back there anymore for a related quest. That's what makes a fast run, no-loss game all the more impressive, since you can't skip enemies for later when you are more powerful.

And it is possible, but with great difficulty. Bolo is one such early game island.

Thanks for the answer. I was thinking particularly of quests that require you to travel between islands to complete them.

I will probably never attempt anything like that. I prefer a leisurely playthrough, even slothful at times. Don't mind flicking through newspapers while I'm waiting for that mana to recharge. :grin: Ah well, to each his own.

Hardly! But thanks mate :). It seems like there are a lot of people out there who make me look like a mere child in comparisment!


Yes. I dident go to any islands twice except for when I had to hand in a few quests and such. Sometimes its hard, well tedious as you have to reload a lot on some fights. But its the most effective way to do it. Also if you have the right spells you can do anything really. This playtrough I found all spells and even better I found the important ones really early on aswell. (for the most part). Its not like you need that many spells when you have red dragons sniping all over the place :).



I found impossible easier with one stack then with a full army. As you can see in my screen I spent most of the game using Red Dragons and they were quite easy to keep up using max rank heal and "time back" if it got nasty.

I would also hit space to pause after every fight to plan ahead on where I would go next and I tried to end most of my fights with full mana and rage.

Also I would save a lot and run around to plan out routes and try some fights just to see how it would go.

All in all this playtrough took me 4-5 weeks and the hardest part for me was actually Umkas. Got some crazy huge shaman armys there with the WRONG kind of support units.



What challenge to go for now.. hmm :)

How did you manage to kill armies with huge stacks of shamans(especially if they are distributed into 3 stacks), I had to go all the way back to just have a single Black Dragon army to avoid their devastating magic axes.
I have no idea how I would beat them as warrior.

Yeah that was the hardest part of the game for me. For those fights I ended up stacking defensive items and I had the magic resistance hat that cut 50% of the damage (giftbag item) and stone skin was always up. The trick was to survive the damage they did every turn while casting rank 3 heal.

It was especially bad with 3 shamans + catapults, but it works if you stack enough damage reduction and catapults can be quite easily crowd controlled with fear or such. In the end I wore them down with my red dragons. One thing I noticed was that based on what spells I would use, they sometimes change the order of how they used their spells. Surviving one or two sets of axes is not as hard as surviving 3 sets. Also if they move a step prior to casting their spell you can reload and put a trap in that spot.

Hope any of this helped :).

It is finally done...

main goals:
* Impossible difficulty using Warrior class
* LEVEL 61!!!
* Day 7
* all 87 quests
* ZERO casualties

seconday goals:
* all medals at level 3
* FAILED: pet dragon only level 57 (was targeting level 60)

final score: 1,869

Screenshots of high score pages attached. I might create a post giving tips on how to achieve this (especially the level 61 goal) but I would like to give KBAP a rest for now. :grin:

As with with my KBTL high score game, this is my only KBAP game that I finished; the attempt simply takes too much time planning and doing, and I don't have too much playing time with family and work being my priority.

As always, it has been a blast playing KB! :grin:

Well done loreangelicus. Some people are born to get absolutely everything out of games. Apparently you are one of them. Respect. :cool:

Thanks, but I did have a great advantage in foresight by reading up on the discussions in this forum before making my attempt.

As such, I would like to give credit where credit is due:

1) unicornXP for the Day 7 path that involves getting all 87 quests

2) DGDobrev for doing the initial run for level 60 and posting GREAT tips on how to achieve it

3) all the contributors in this forum that showed me the power of black knights, bone dragons, and the two droids for the zero casualties attempt

4) lady luck for placing the two Hand of Necropolis XP items BOTH ON VERONA

Heck, the only genuine contributions that I have are: 1) replaying easy battles to dig chests for call colossus/call of death/ancient knowledge early on, and 2) replaying Elenhel battles to get him to cough up ancient knowledge every 30 battles.

I'll write up the post giving tips on my run; may it serve to inspire others (especially the veterans) to make a high score run as well. It should be noted that I didn't play with the gift bag mod, and that playing with the said mod could lead to a LEVEL 62 run since I think it adds another +5% XP item. :grin:

In my opinion, loreangelicus, you're too modest ;) Thanks for giving me a credit, but the achievement is entirely your own. It represents hours of commitment, perseverance and a strong will to keep on going. This is something few people possess in abundance. You had the nerves of steel to get the most out of the battles.

Great work :)

As for the 62, I'm uncertain. I think the 5% isn't as much as it looks, but it is well worth the try.

Thanks. :)

Btw, here is my "official" post regarding my run. Hopefully it inspires others to follow suit just as I have been inspired by the accomplishments of others. :)

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=14756

Congrats! Truly an excellent run!

A beastly result. Im just starting my impossible ( with mage) run now, having finished my first ever AP game on normal (warrior, 1006), and Im gonna make use of the tips provided.

What a great game. Thanks so much to the developers for writing such a fun game.

As a casual gamer it is fun to see all the crazy things people on this board are able to achieve in this game. My goal for both KBTL and KBAP was to be able to finish both games without any help from these forums. I'm proud to say that I finished both games before even reading one post on these forums to see how others are doing it. :)

Of course, the way that I won was quite different than anyone else I've seen, though it worked and that's what makes this game good for even casual games like me.

I'll post the screenshots later.

In general, I was able to go with no losses up until the last 5 fights or so. I never knew about the timeback spell, I'll have to double check my spell book to see if it is even in there.

I settled on being a Mage with an army of Royal Griffins, Inquisitors(the ones with resurrection), Demonlogists, Green Dragons, and Cyclopses. Towards the end I realized I could improve on this choice, though I wanted to be loyal to the team that had taken me so far, so I used them till the end. :)

BTW, has anyone achieved level 62?

ImpWarriorNoloss
 

After a similar run with mage (score 1652) I managed to finish an impossible no loss warrior game with a result of 1769. (day 11, level 57, quests 87).
Now I can see what an unbelievable result to do the same only in 7 days.
I was using UnicornX' travel plan (thanx for it!), and I was always trying to hurry, but I don't see the possibility to repeat Lorangelicus' score.
It must had be very-very very well organized and planed, and I think the only way to achieve it, if you make every step's of the route only once, and kill everything immediately as you meet him.
In my run I used mainly Red and Black dragons with both kind of droids.
They can handle easily almost all of the battles.
The 3 hard MainBoss fight was different.
Agaist K'tahu I used only one stack of ghosts. According to my Leadership I could have had 375 of them, but I used only 275, because in the first few trial it always run over the maximum, and I lost the battle immediately.
Starting with the 275 I finished of K'tahu absolutely easily, my only problem was not to exceed the limit. (At the and I had 374 Ghosts).
Against Gremlion I used RedDragons (21) and Cursed ghosts (333).
The tactic was to send the ghosts to battle, I needed the dragons only controll the game, and after defeating everything reduce the number of the ghosts back to normal. It's really funny, that when the ghosts run out of my controll, Gremlion doesn't hurt it, even if retaliate!! (neither if uses area attack).
In the final battle I used BoneDragons (42) instead of Reddies, allied with 361 cursed ghosts (possible 419). It was the same method, the major part of the battle was done by the ghosts, which run out of controll very quickly. It grown up till 2927 !!, with an attack of 264 !! causing 108338 damage to Baal with one critical hit. After cleaning the demons out it takes about 50-60 turns to reduce the amount of the ghosts to 418 with the Bonedragon's poisoncloud.
I have had only 3 AK scrolls, so I'm sure, with better luck, and with using Elenhel (I haven't had him) it is not to hard to reach 1-2 levels more.
It was a wrong decesion to use MoroDark (instead of Elenhel e.g.), but I wanted to get the splinter of darkness, and finally, I haven't used Blackknights at all. :(
One more thing. Seeing DGD's motto about Gorguana and mark of blood, I had an idea, and I made a trial. Fighting against repair droids (135 pcs with 64 HP, 8640 all together), I used gorguanas mark of blood on them, and send Drako's Ligthning ball against them. The effect was amaizing. The ball caused 10110 damage (39%*2*1,5), killing the entire squad. (Droids are vulnerable to magic, -50%).

My latest result, impossible mage 1317 & 60 lvl, data on the screens, with modified hardcore pcbun mod:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...364#post179364

Warrior, impossible, 7 days, 87 quests, zero casualties, score 1850
 

Warrior, impossible, 7 days, 87 quests, zero casualties, score 1850

Paladin Impossible NoLoss
 

I was curious how it goes with a Paladin hero, to make a no loss run. (In this sites I haven't seen any really high score with paladin, except DGD's one).
It was similar, like the Mage and Warrior ones, although the Paladin's speciality (Resurrection) has had no sense at all (because of the NoLoss).
Debir was easy, but Scarlet wind and Rusty Anchor was a nightmare. After reaching Verona everything turned to easier, and after Montero -getting the first RedDragon- it was a piece of cake.
Score: 1818
Days: 9
Quests: 87
Level: 59
My original goals was to reach Level 60, but I should have had about 50000 Exp more. I had 8 scrolls of AK -seven from Elenhel, and only one from travel charts:(-, and to reach L60 I needed at least 6 more AK scrolls.
Also I wanted to solve the game in 8 days, but finally I spent 8 and half, and don't really see the possibility to solve it only in 7 days. There should be some trick, because I used the shortest travel route -to solve all the quests-, always paused the game if not moving, and tried to move on the islands as few as possible -with the wings asap-, and still being pretty slow :(
Anyhow, it was a great fun to play with all kind of fighters, and now I go to the store to buy Crossworlds :grin:

One more thing, does anybody know, how the "most effective troops" record works? Because it shows such silly things as 60 (??) Red dragons, and Beholders causing 1,2 % effectivness, although I used them only in a few battles at the very beginning of the game?
Could it be, that Resurrected -with Inquisitors- and TurnBackTimed ones are added to the real ones in this record??