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David198502 05-13-2012 08:26 AM

ok had a launcher crash right now on Rebka4...
i think everybody on the server crashed in the exact moment, as i restartet the game, the server was suddenly empty, except my name was still visible in the playerlist.

but the really annoying thing now is, that i cannot connect to it anymore.
the game will crash everytime i try to connect to this server.when i then restart the game and try again to connect, i get a serverfailauthentification message, because the server still thinks im connected.
this will stay, until i connect to another server(which is no problem btw).i can connect to any other server, but rebka4, i either get a game crash or this authentification message.
i tried it now about 20times.then i restarted steam, with no joy, and even a reboot of the pc doesnt work....i take my thank you back until this is solved... :)

Blakduk 05-13-2012 08:31 AM

Update has done a fantastic job for me- no CTD's and framerates now faster and smoother. I can now fly around london on highest settings and get very good results.
Online i was getting freezes, but blocking skins fixed that issue.
Dogfighting is much more fun now, i dont get slowdowns as i approach another aircraft. This used to be a big problem for me, especially with Ju88's for some reason.

The only video problem i now have are some glitches when using external views. Some background objects showing through aircraft occassionaly, especially bomb craters. This is quite random however and seems to go away if i change the view for a moment and then return.

Ploughman 05-13-2012 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneDriver (Post 424716)
Definitely smoother, but I'm not getting bullet damage except on the control surfaces. Anyone else getting this?

These were disabled for the purposes of the beta test, as were flashes.

• No damage decals on aircraft from small-caliber hits.
• The hit flash effects are temporarily turned off.

mazex 05-13-2012 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 424710)
If this happens online, turn OFF skin downloading in network settings. It causes long freezes.

Which line is that? It's something I have wanted to do a long time as I have connected that to online stuttering... Like in this post from October last year where I reposted a mail to Ilya after the last official patch http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...5&postcount=78

Ataros 05-13-2012 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazex (Post 424752)
Which line is that? It's something I have wanted to do a long time as I have connected that to online stuttering... Like in this post from October last year where I reposted a mail to Ilya after the last official patch http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...5&postcount=78

It is in the game menu. Network settings screen.

Ataros 05-13-2012 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 424733)
ok had a launcher crash right now on Rebka4...
i think everybody on the server crashed in the exact moment, as i restartet the game, the server was suddenly empty, except my name was still visible in the playerlist.

but the really annoying thing now is, that i cannot connect to it anymore.
the game will crash everytime i try to connect to this server.when i then restart the game and try again to connect, i get a serverfailauthentification message, because the server still thinks im connected.
this will stay, until i connect to another server(which is no problem btw).i can connect to any other server, but rebka4, i either get a game crash or this authentification message.
i tried it now about 20times.then i restarted steam, with no joy, and even a reboot of the pc doesnt work....i take my thank you back until this is solved... :)

This is a server specific issue. Repka admins can not figure out what causes it. Please send crashdumps and log.txt to Luthier. Maybe the devs can help.

HurricaneDriver 05-13-2012 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ploughman (Post 424740)
These were disabled for the purposes of the beta test, as were flashes.

• No damage decals on aircraft from small-caliber hits.
• The hit flash effects are temporarily turned off.

Thanks Ploughman.

SEE 05-13-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 424733)
ok had a launcher crash right now on Rebka4...
i think everybody on the server crashed in the exact moment, as i restartet the game, the server was suddenly empty, except my name was still visible in the playerlist.

but the really annoying thing now is, that i cannot connect to it anymore.
the game will crash everytime i try to connect to this server.


Exactly the same happened to me David with LE crashing trying to join any server after a server crashed.

I had to roll back using Steam Verify Integrity - then re-installed the alpha with hotfix and deleted the cache/shaders files before starting CLOD.

MB_Avro_UK 05-13-2012 01:36 PM

Well done Team :grin:

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

ACE-OF-ACES 05-13-2012 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 424272)
The only bug we haven’t yet fixed has to do with the game crashing due to some external programs running in the background. We’re still investigating that one. It apparently may be connected to having flash videos loaded in a web browser while playing the game, and / or using voice chat. We’re not done investigating that one yet however, so we haven’t yet fixed it.

On that note, for those who don't have dedicated game PC, as in they have alot of 'other' software installed for work or what ever, and are 'not' that good at manually configuring their PC for game play.. Those types should consider looking at IOBit's Game Booster. It can unloaded alot of un-necessary programs and generally optimse your PC prior to launching the game.

Rowddy 05-13-2012 02:33 PM

I downloaded and installed the mini patch but i get CTD's only on startup?? Now i noticed that the file says it's the number of the previous patch after downloading. So is it that? am i the only one? Or did i do something wrong (i installed it in the correct folder)?:confused:

Any help on this would be very appriciated.

JG52Uther 05-13-2012 02:35 PM

Did you clear your cache Rowddy?

Rowddy 05-13-2012 03:24 PM

no i didn't but the downloaded patch has got this name.. "IL2COD_15866_core_patch" and the version that i have is this one.. "IL2COD_17582"

That can't be correct aswell can it? Just checking before installing it again.

David198502 05-13-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEE (Post 424866)
Exactly the same happened to me David with LE crashing trying to join any server after a server crashed.

I had to roll back using Steam Verify Integrity - then re-installed the alpha with hotfix and deleted the cache/shaders files before starting CLOD.

well, for me it worked again after an hour and about 40crashes:grin::confused:

ATAG_Septic 05-13-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 424893)
On that note, for those who don't have dedicated game PC, as in they have alot of 'other' software installed for work or what ever, and are 'not' that good at manually configuring their PC for game play.. Those types should consider looking at IOBit's Game Booster. It can unloaded alot of un-necessary programs and generally optimse your PC prior to launching the game.

I have bought and used IOBit's software in the past and found it a convenient way of stopping unnecessary services and other system management.

I notice that it's identified by Steam as software that can cause problems so don't bother with it anymore. There is lots of software on that list of potential troublemakers for Steam though.

Septic.

=AN=Apache 05-13-2012 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 424539)
Probably not the reason but if you had a flash video running in the background it halves your fps.

I thought it improved here!

I deleted the cache folder and had a complete improvement. May be my impression, but it could be that had something flash behind when I was testing, I do not really remember.

Thank you for your service

: D

ACE-OF-ACES 05-13-2012 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATAG_Septic (Post 424958)
I notice that it's identified by Steam as software that can cause problems so don't bother with it anymore.

Strange.. I have stam and no prob.. Oh wait, I bet I know what they are talking about. Game Booster can shut down the STEAM process, and as you know that has to be running prior to lanching a STEAM game. But, Ill bet they were refering to an old version of Game Booster, in that the current one is smart enough to detect STEAM and not shut it down, unless you manually tell Game Booster to shut it down.

von Brühl 05-13-2012 04:32 PM

I think he means that on the steam forums and help pages, they state that GameBooster might cause problems running their games. But you're correct, the newest versions have been great about identifying Steam processes and leaving them alone.

philip.ed 05-13-2012 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 424893)
On that note, for those who don't have dedicated game PC, as in they have alot of 'other' software installed for work or what ever, and are 'not' that good at manually configuring their PC for game play.. Those types should consider looking at IOBit's Game Booster. It can unloaded alot of un-necessary programs and generally optimse your PC prior to launching the game.

This is going to get lost in this thread mate. I'd suggest making a new topic (unless I've completely missed it).

SIDWULF 05-13-2012 05:54 PM

Very poor preformance with more then 3 aircraft on the screen in multiplayer, very poor preformance on take off and landing with smoke effects. Otherwise preformance is great on max with AA off.

Why is this?

furbs 05-13-2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 425032)
This is going to get lost in this thread mate. I'd suggest making a new topic (unless I've completely missed it).


I did, but they deleted it.

JG52Krupi 05-13-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by furbs (Post 425038)
I did, but they deleted it.

No its in the bug thread mate.

ACE-OF-ACES 05-13-2012 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 425032)
Quote:

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 424893)
On that note, for those who don't have dedicated game PC, as in they have alot of 'other' software installed for work or what ever, and are 'not' that good at manually configuring their PC for game play.. Those types should consider looking at IOBit's Game Booster. It can unloaded alot of un-necessary programs and generally optimse your PC prior to launching the game.

This is going to get lost in this thread mate. I'd suggest making a new topic (unless I've completely missed it).

and

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 425032)
This is going to get lost in this thread mate. I'd suggest making a new topic (unless I've completely missed it).
Quote:

Originally Posted by furbs (Post 425038)
I did, but they deleted it.


Ah.. were you talking to be Phil or furbs?

Because based on the previous page it looked like you quoted me, but I see that furbs responded instead

SEE 05-13-2012 06:11 PM

My BIOS doesn't feature an option to enable/disable Hyperthreading only 'Speedstep' which seems to be for the OS to determine CPU speed - I disabled it, not sure if it will make any difference though.

Nvidea CP has a 'Threaded Optimisation' parameter - is this similar to Hyperthreading or entirely different?

Bokononist 05-13-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEE (Post 425041)
My BIOS doesn't feature an option to enable/disable Hyperthreading only 'Speedstep' which seems to be for the OS to determine CPU speed - I disabled it, not sure if it will make any difference though.

Nvidea CP has a 'Threaded Optimisation' parameter - is this similar to Hyperthreading or entirely different?

I don't know what threaded optimisation is, but the disable hyperthreading option is only relevent if you have an i7 processor. It essentially creates 4 'virtual' cores to enable more threads to be executed simultaniously. It has benefits in certain software, video encoding and that sort of thing, but rarely has any benefit in games, and obviously in this case(CloD) it actually has a detrimental effect.
Boko.

SEE 05-13-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bokononist (Post 425045)
I don't know what threaded optimisation is, but the disable hyperthreading option is only relevent if you have an i7 processor. It essentially creates 4 'virtual' cores to enable more threads to be executed simultaniously. It has benefits in certain software, video encoding and that sort of thing, but rarely has any benefit in games, and obviously in this case(CloD) it actually has a detrimental effect.
Boko.

Thanks, I just googled my Dual Core CPU and it doesn't have HT - the mobo supports HT and Quad Cores so at least I know to disable it if I upgrade.

d.burnette 05-13-2012 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bokononist (Post 425045)
but rarely has any benefit in games, and obviously in this case(CloD) it actually has a detrimental effect.
Boko.

Also disabling hyperthreading will result in cooler cpu core temps as well.

JG52Uther 05-13-2012 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 425039)
No its in the bug thread mate.

Correct. Bugs go in the bug thread.

mazex 05-13-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 424766)
It is in the game menu. Network settings screen.

Ahh - after unchecking that option I suddenly got this line in my conf.ini under [NET]:

SkinDownload=0

Rather annoying that only gets into the conf.ini after changing it so you don't see it if its on the default setting (=1)...

Thanks!

philip.ed 05-13-2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 425040)



Ah.. were you talking to be (ME?) Phil or furbs?

Because based on the previous page it looked like you quoted me, but I see that furbs responded instead

I meant you Aces. But I think Furbs responded because he made the topic I was suggesting towards.

pencon 05-13-2012 11:21 PM

Well the hotfix worked for me I had an hour straight over land and buildings lag and crash free even with shadows on , trees and SSao on (offline) . GTX 570 is da bomb ! This Sim is only going to get better from here , coupled by diminished whining, sniveling and lip quivering ..

pencon 05-13-2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d.burnette (Post 425059)
Also disabling hyperthreading will result in cooler cpu core temps as well.

Here's an actual hyper threading comparison http://www.overclock.net/t/671977/hy...ading-in-games

PhilHL 05-14-2012 12:24 AM

also the hotfix works also great at my machine. over 2 hours on atag server and no CTD. i run on high detail and all on without ssao. pretty smooth and the colors... yesss. its just looking amasing!!! and sound is also very good! cannot compare it to the preview pics we got 1,5 years ago!!!

what great improvements. now i will play the game i bought just on release day!!! keep on improving the game 1c!! your doing a good job

Gourmand 05-14-2012 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 424272)
Hi everyone,

The only bug we haven’t yet fixed has to do with the game crashing due to some external programs running in the background.



it's perhaps teamspeak overlay, it's an unstable software integrated with teamspeak

FS~Phat 05-14-2012 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gourmand (Post 425253)
it's perhaps teamspeak overlay, it's an unstable software integrated with teamspeak

There are quite a few programs that can interfere with menu and game rendering with particular settings.

TS overlay
Gameclaw
Radeonpro

To name a few that I have used and seen problems with this game.

furbs 05-14-2012 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FS~Phat (Post 425257)
There are quite a few programs that can interfere with menu and game rendering with particular settings.

TS overlay
Gameclaw
Radeonpro

To name a few that I have used and seen problems with this game.

Add Gamebooster to the list too.

GraveyardJimmy 05-14-2012 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FS~Phat (Post 425257)
There are quite a few programs that can interfere with menu and game rendering with particular settings.

TS overlay
Gameclaw
Radeonpro

To name a few that I have used and seen problems with this game.

And mumble overlay. Haven't tried with ventrillo.

JG4_Bendwick 05-14-2012 01:25 PM

I still have at any resolution in different settings,
Sutter on the ground, in low pass.
FPS can I reduce or increase but that Sutter will always be there.
But no CTDs more!
If it solves the problem yet ... I agree with the graphics.

then you can tackle it all the bugs.
thx Widukind

Settings:
Win 7 64 bit
Intel I7 2600k 3 .4Ghz
ATI Readon 6800 HD
8GB Ram
SATA Memory

ZaltysZ 05-14-2012 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FS~Phat (Post 425257)
There are quite a few programs that can interfere with menu and game rendering with particular settings.

TS overlay
Gameclaw
Radeonpro

To name a few that I have used and seen problems with this game.

We can add Mumble overlay to this list too.

SiThSpAwN 05-14-2012 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by furbs (Post 425281)
Add Gamebooster to the list too.

Why Gamebooster? I have been using that since I bought this sim with no issues?

furbs 05-14-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN (Post 425362)
Why Gamebooster? I have been using that since I bought this sim with no issues?


In my case it messes up the menus.

maybe if i start Gamebooster, switch to game, "then" start steam?...il try it.

Nope for it crashes after 5 mins with Gamebooster on.

SiThSpAwN 05-14-2012 02:42 PM

Did you configure it yourself or just use the defaults? I cant say that I have had any menu issues that I have seen, but I did make sure to go through and see what it decided to shut off and what it didnt...

priller26 05-14-2012 02:56 PM

Has anyone with an nvidia gtx 570 or 580 with 3 gigs noticed an improvement in the particle effects with the new fix, that is, the massive drop in fps when landing (dust) and when firing cannons (smoke/tracers)? Just curious. Good work, and looks like solid progress.

furbs 05-14-2012 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN (Post 425379)
Did you configure it yourself or just use the defaults? I cant say that I have had any menu issues that I have seen, but I did make sure to go through and see what it decided to shut off and what it didnt...

I had left it as defaults, anything i should be looking for?

SiThSpAwN 05-14-2012 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by furbs (Post 425391)
I had left it as defaults, anything i should be looking for?


Well generally defaults are pretty safe, but I would start with stuff like make sure its not shutting off something related to your graphics card and such, I saw that it determined stuff it thought wasnt related to games maybe was.

I think with Gamebooster its better to go through and config yourself, there is alot of stuff it wont turn off that I think it should. Make sure you have the most up to date version to, as with everything...

good luck!

=FI=Scott 05-14-2012 06:32 PM

I'm seeing an improvement here on the micro stutters. CTD's are gone (I cannot get it to crash) but I still think they have got big issues with trees and Vsynch- the latter works but at a hell of a hit.

It is going in the right direction but plenty left to do- as it is this game engine just won't fly in a sim based on low level ground attack and defence.

ACE-OF-ACES 05-14-2012 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN (Post 425398)
Well generally defaults are pretty safe, but I would start with stuff like make sure its not shutting off something related to your graphics card and such, I saw that it determined stuff it thought wasnt related to games maybe was.

I think with Gamebooster its better to go through and config yourself, there is alot of stuff it wont turn off that I think it should.

GameBooster ver 3 is pretty modets in what it turns off.. So I agree, use the manual option and I am sure you will be able to turn off alot more. For example, Adobe loves to put things in your start up that sit there doing nothing but taking up mem. But be careful, if there is something running that you are not sure of best to leave it alone

All in all, even if you dont use GameBooster manual mode, it is interesting to at least use it to see all the stuff that is in there and running

ACE-OF-ACES 05-14-2012 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN (Post 425362)
Why Gamebooster? I have been using that since I bought this sim with no issues?

Same here.. Have been using GameBooster since ver 1, it is a great little util

ACE-OF-ACES 05-14-2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 425134)
I meant you Aces. But I think Furbs responded because he made the topic I was suggesting towards.

Ah ok

As for furbs, he had a post on HT stuff controled in the BIOS. Where as my post was in regards to 'other' software running and the use of GameBooster to 86 that 'other' stuff

Blackdog_kt 05-14-2012 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by priller26 (Post 425390)
Has anyone with an nvidia gtx 570 or 580 with 3 gigs noticed an improvement in the particle effects with the new fix, that is, the massive drop in fps when landing (dust) and when firing cannons (smoke/tracers)? Just curious. Good work, and looks like solid progress.

The particle effect fix was not part of the alpha patch that is currently under testing.

It seems this patch was mostly about eliminating all the individual bugs that cause a CTD: we fly, we crash, we send them the log files, they look at them one by one and fix each issue.

I guess that once they sort out stability, they'll move on to specific areas of graphics that still cause performance issues.

Flanker35M 05-15-2012 06:12 AM

S!

When they get the graphics engine sorted out the game will be a blast to fly..and the sequels :) The direction is right at the moment as CTD's for most people are gone. I VERY rarely got them though.

Majo 05-15-2012 10:20 AM

Great improvement.
 
Thank you!!!

Great improvement about CTDs with the mini-fix vs the original Patch Alpha.

I just wish it goes the same way for as many people as possible...

Many things come to my mind as what should be the next objective/s, so many inputs, so many things up the road.

IMHO clouds, smoke, fire, dust... that is "effects" handling improvement by the graphic engine is capital for the
air to air & air to ground combat experience.
Maybe not and some advances in the online performance, coop/mission design, map building, server features and
tools will strengthen the community.
Or maybe is offline environment where we want to push harder.
... some help (I mean 100 oct. fuel) for the spits that are having hard time.
Or maybe...

I am sure IL2bugtracker will help to sort out where the team will be able to add more value considering that
everything you do now for CloD will be returned to you in BoM.

The wheel of karma.:)

Salutes.

NLS61 05-15-2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 425688)
S!

When they get the graphics engine sorted out the game will be a blast to fly..and the sequels :) The direction is right at the moment as CTD's for most people are gone. I VERY rarely got them though.

Well no i dint have to much ctd's before but now after the hot fix they are often and quick one after one an other.
so its not good for every body yet.
Before the main fix I dint encounter to much ctd's and had total smooth game play.
After the main fix firstly i could play for serveral hours and tought the problem was solved.
Then the first CTD occurred then the second and it was like a woman in labor they became more frequent and closer togheter.
Then the mini fix this looked ok for the first hour but hen the same situation occurd.
I'm sending logs and crashfiles to the developers until somwhere last night the mails were bounced.
Thats the situation for now.

cheers,

Niels

SturmKreator 05-15-2012 01:10 PM

For me the game is still broken, after the two beta patchs, the game still crash to desktop before I can play, this suck and need attention. I will hope they launch a stable patch fast without any bugs, I bougth the game after 1 year, and still cant play it? LOL

Winger 05-15-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SturmKreator (Post 425789)
For me the game is still broken, after the two beta patchs, the game still crash to desktop before I can play, this suck and need attention. I will hope they launch a stable patch fast without any bugs, I bougth the game after 1 year, and still cant play it? LOL

Try reinstalling Net Framework 4.0 and then try to enter diffrent servers. The Frameworkinstallation fixed crashes that happened when trying to enter onlineservers for many of my squad.

Winger

KG26_Alpha 05-15-2012 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SturmKreator (Post 425789)
For me the game is still broken, after the two beta patchs, the game still crash to desktop before I can play, this suck and need attention. I will hope they launch a stable patch fast without any bugs, I bougth the game after 1 year, and still cant play it? LOL

Hi

Your post is like many seen here, please dont take this as an attack on you just that your an good example of someone posting here without any system specs or information for others to help you.

I would see no problem in deleting such posts as they are useless to everyone except for yourself or course letting some steam off :)

Would everyone please in future post more than "it still broke" so you can get help.

Thanks.

Outlaw 05-15-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by =FI=Scott (Post 425478)
I'm seeing an improvement here on the micro stutters. CTD's are gone (I cannot get it to crash) but I still think they have got big issues with trees and Vsynch- the latter works but at a hell of a hit.

Vsync is, by definition, a frame rate limiter. It will reduce your frame rate to match the refresh rate of your display. If you can't max out the display refresh rate of your display with vsync off you won't max it out with vsync on.

--Outlaw.

SturmKreator 05-15-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winger (Post 425793)
Try reinstalling Net Framework 4.0 and then try to enter diffrent servers. The Frameworkinstallation fixed crashes that happened when trying to enter onlineservers for many of my squad.

Winger

I cant even start the game, how can I choose a server?

SturmKreator 05-15-2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 425800)
Hi

Your post is like many seen here, please dont take this as an attack on you just that your an good example of someone posting here without any system specs or information for others to help you.

I would see no problem in deleting such posts as they are useless to everyone except for yourself or course letting some steam off :)

Would everyone please in future post more than "it still broke" so you can get help.

Thanks.

My intention is not troll, just let it know to devs the patch is not ready and they have a lot to do until the launch the official patch.

SiThSpAwN 05-15-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SturmKreator (Post 425941)
I cant even start the game, how can I choose a server?


Try the first part of his suggestion first ;)

SturmKreator 05-15-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN (Post 425944)
Try the first part of his suggestion first ;)

but he says this fix is only for online servers, I want to play offline, launch the game and CTD instantly, with the two fixes, btw my windows 7 is fresh clean, and updated, so framework problem is not

Plt Off JRB Meaker 05-15-2012 05:35 PM

All running ok here.....I'm getting all the graphical bugs showing up,like the grass in hangars and the Hurricane steering column wires mixed up etc,as I guess everyone else is,but outside of that it all seems pretty good.

Ataros 05-15-2012 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SturmKreator (Post 425953)
but he says this fix is only for online servers, I want to play offline, launch the game and CTD instantly, with the two fixes, btw my windows 7 is fresh clean, and updated, so framework problem is not

Edit conf.ini to start game in a small window. In game change back to fullscreen mode, restart game.

Add system specs to your sig. Cards below gtx460 or gtx560 have issues in this patch.

SturmKreator 05-15-2012 05:54 PM

Ok, I delted the entire folder in my documents and now the game works, I dont know why

JG52Uther 05-15-2012 06:07 PM

It was probably corrupted.When you deleted the folder, and then started the game, steam rebuilt the file.
Good to see that you finally got it going.
You should put your system specs in your sig.

SturmKreator 05-15-2012 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 425995)
It was probably corrupted.When you deleted the folder, and then started the game, steam rebuilt the file.
Good to see that you finally got it going.
You should put your system specs in your sig.

My pc specs are humble, so I can not enjoy the game.
amd250 x2 3.6 ghz
2gb ram ddr2
hd4850 @ catalyst 12.4
windows 7 32 bit

bw_wolverine 05-15-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SturmKreator (Post 426041)
My pc specs are humble, so I can not enjoy the game.
amd250 x2 3.6 ghz
2gb ram ddr2
hd4850 @ catalyst 12.4

Of big importance is your OS. Are you running Windows XP or Vista / Windows 7?

SturmKreator 05-15-2012 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bw_wolverine (Post 426044)
Of big importance is your OS. Are you running Windows XP or Vista / Windows 7?

updated

chris455 05-16-2012 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by priller26 (Post 425390)
Has anyone with an nvidia gtx 570 or 580 with 3 gigs noticed an improvement in the particle effects with the new fix, that is, the massive drop in fps when landing (dust) and when firing cannons (smoke/tracers)? Just curious. Good work, and looks like solid progress.

I have a GTX 580 w 3 Gigs DDR5 VRAM. I have no noticeable change in FPS when landing or firing tracers. If I am flying in or very close to clouds w/ mirrors enabled, I get a big drop. But nowhere else that I have noticed.

SiThSpAwN 05-16-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chris455 (Post 426231)
I have a GTX 580 w 3 Gigs DDR5 VRAM. I have no noticeable change in FPS when landing or firing tracers. If I am flying in or very close to clouds w/ mirrors enabled, I get a big drop. But nowhere else that I have noticed.

Clouds are not working as intended, I dont think that has changed since the release of the Alpha patch as stated in the patch notes. Where I can I turn them off.

What about explosions/fire/smoke? Do they cause slow downs for you?

FFCW_Urizen 05-16-2012 04:31 PM

You can turn clouds off in your difficulty settings or through mission settings (QMs only).
As for MP, the final decision rests with the serversettings. if the server has clouds enabled, they will be rendered on your end.

bornflying79 05-16-2012 06:15 PM

So, do we almost have a functional simulator that I should spend money on?

skouras 05-16-2012 06:36 PM

what about the lights on the gauges in the 110's
is always on
it is supposed to be like that...:confused:

arthursmedley 05-16-2012 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bornflying79 (Post 426563)
So, do we almost have a functional simulator that I should spend money on?

Almost. Perhaps best wait to see what the official patch turns out like.

Insuber 05-16-2012 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by skouras (Post 426570)
what about the lights on the gauges in the 110's
is always on
it is supposed to be like that...:confused:

What do you mean? One can toggle the instruments panel lighting on/off also in the 110.

chris455 05-17-2012 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN (Post 426511)
Clouds are not working as intended, I dont think that has changed since the release of the Alpha patch as stated in the patch notes. Where I can I turn them off.

What about explosions/fire/smoke? Do they cause slow downs for you?

A very large explosion, such as the one when the airstrip is being hit early in the Black Death track, will choke me out for sure. Other ancillary explosions do not have a great effect at all.
Fire and smoke do not have a noticeable effect on my rig.
I believe you can disable clouds in one of the options screens before a QM; in the Mission Builder it is a rather obscure setting, but it is there.

gonk 05-17-2012 04:58 AM

hmm.... something here is not adding up.... One week they say the patch is almost ready and they have had no crashes for weeks... now they say thanks for the crash logs as they have BEEN having crashes they cannot fix... ??? What is it ? No crashes or crashes ??

Total graphic engine rewrite of 200+meg ? Lucky there is currently no competition for this genre' .

skouras 05-17-2012 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 426678)
What do you mean? One can toggle the instruments panel lighting on/off also in the 110.

take a look on this video
look the gauges

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBmATCajOcs

IvanK 05-17-2012 06:12 AM

About 2 Patches ago the BF110 instruments took on a yellowish caste. Looks like Dust in behind the glass. Looks terrible.

skouras 05-17-2012 06:33 AM

im talking about the same..;)

Insuber 05-17-2012 08:21 AM

Ah OK the brownish color of the 110 panel. But the instruments are dark at night, and one must turn on the cockpit lighting, in my game at least :-)

Cheers!

GraveyardJimmy 05-17-2012 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gonk (Post 426755)

Total graphic engine rewrite of 200+meg ?

The engine rewrite is code, not texture files etc. There is no reason for it to be a very large file. 200MB is the equivalent of 50,000 pages of text. Obviously there are sound files added amongst other things so it is not literally 50,000 pages of code!

AKA_Tenn 05-17-2012 08:55 AM

yep yep... textures, sounds, maps/models, and movies are the big bits...

skouras 05-17-2012 10:32 AM

:grin:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 426801)
Ah OK the brownish color of the 110 panel. But the instruments are dark at night, and one must turn on the cockpit lighting, in my game at least :-)

Cheers!


Thr0tt 05-17-2012 08:28 PM

Patch does nothing to the game, seems to me like I should have no reinstalled for this and left it in its dusty box like most the folk who bought it.

Will check back in another 6 months or 12 but really this is disgusting to release such a poor coded game, I will await the financial struggle in all countries excuse soon as to why they cannot fix it.

SiThSpAwN 05-17-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Thr0tt (Post 427017)
Patch does nothing to the game, seems to me like I should have no reinstalled for this and left it in its dusty box like most the folk who bought it.

Will check back in another 6 months or 12 but really this is disgusting to release such a poor coded game, I will await the financial struggle in all countries excuse soon as to why they cannot fix it.

If the patch changes nothing for you... You are doing it wrong.

ATAG_Doc 05-17-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Thr0tt (Post 427017)
Patch does nothing to the game, seems to me like I should have no reinstalled for this and left it in its dusty box like most the folk who bought it.

Will check back in another 6 months or 12 but really this is disgusting to release such a poor coded game, I will await the financial struggle in all countries excuse soon as to why they cannot fix it.

Run-on sentences 101 they just run-on and on and on and on and on. The patch did help me.

BH_woodstock 05-17-2012 08:47 PM

was wondering if i should re install beta or stay stock for the time being.Any clue when this might go official?

icetbag 05-17-2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BH_woodstock (Post 427023)
was wondering if i should re install beta or stay stock for the time being.Any clue when this might go official?

I was in the same boat, and only took the plunge after the hotfix was released as I was intrigued by what I was reading (plus the ATAG beta-patch-hotfix server always had loads of people on it).

I havent bothered to compare FPS, but I will say that the game looks so much nicer for me, plus the biggest improvement is how much better/easier it is to spot planes and identify as friend or foe at a further distance.

Game runs smooth for me, but it did on before I installed the beta patch + hotfix.

There are however some graphical issues (seeing runway taxi lights via the cockpit) and sometimes the mirror pops up even when its disabled. Enjoying the game alot more now (plus I dont get a memory leak that caused my game to stutter to a crash).

SEE 05-17-2012 10:34 PM

The mirrors re-enable themselves with low res textures whenever my ac suffers some physical damage, even light damage seems to cause this. If I zoom in and out a few times the mirrors and textures return to normal and I can disable them.

AKA_Tenn 05-18-2012 01:33 AM

the mirrors don't re-enable themselves... its more like... instead of the damage texture, it shows the low-res mirror texture when u get hit... completely 2d flat mirror with no actual mirror... if you try to disable that 2d flat mirror, the 3d one pops up... then when u disable the 3d one the 2d one comes back... but i haven't been able to get rid of the mirror once i get hit and the 2d mirror shows up, my framerates take a hit and i gotta land it...

JG14_Jagr 05-18-2012 01:34 AM

Correct Tenn.. thats what happens for me..

zerty95 05-18-2012 11:03 AM

doesn't work
 
hi, the update still doesn't work for me :s

i can see it is updates by the numbers in the right corner, but when I try to play (for example: free flight in france) it loads, I can press fly and then i hear everything I do like increasing speed , bur I can't see anything. The screen shows my pc background :s

can somebody help me?

best regards
zerty95

bravoalpha 05-18-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by zerty95 (Post 427153)
hi, the update still doesn't work for me :s

i can see it is updates by the numbers in the right corner, but when I try to play (for example: free flight in france) it loads, I can press fly and then i hear everything I do like increasing speed , bur I can't see anything. The screen shows my pc background :s

can somebody help me?

best regards
zerty95

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...5&postcount=37
;)

Taff in Exile 05-18-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by zerty95 (Post 427153)
hi, the update still doesn't work for me :s

i can see it is updates by the numbers in the right corner, but when I try to play (for example: free flight in france) it loads, I can press fly and then i hear everything I do like increasing speed , bur I can't see anything. The screen shows my pc background :s

can somebody help me?

best regards
zerty95

Hi Zerty...I had this also when I'd accidently changed my ingame screen resolution to one the monitor didn't support. Might be worth having a play with the resolution to see if the same thing.

Momod 05-18-2012 03:27 PM

I had the black screen red square on start up, switched to Psuedo screen mode and it dont occur anymore :grin:

Duke88 05-18-2012 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerty95 (Post 427153)
hi, the update still doesn't work for me :s

i can see it is updates by the numbers in the right corner, but when I try to play (for example: free flight in france) it loads, I can press fly and then i hear everything I do like increasing speed , bur I can't see anything. The screen shows my pc background :s

can somebody help me?

best regards
zerty95

I have the same issue and this appears because CloD isn't compatible yet with our GUIs (hence with our DX 10).
If you want to play with this game, you have to go in conf.ini file and editing the line renderD3D10_0 in renderD3D9, hit close and save! You will play at clod but you can't see the improvments of this patch (devs haven't put the DX9 support yet).
Bye :)

SturmKreator 05-18-2012 03:53 PM

its friday, why no update?

DroopSnoot 05-18-2012 03:54 PM

Has anyone posted this to the developers yet? This is a massive bug!

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...5&postcount=37

radman2012 05-18-2012 08:41 PM

Description:
Stopped working

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: CLR20r3
Problem Signature 01: launcher.exe
Problem Signature 02: 1.0.0.0
Problem Signature 03: 4d6e3d08
Problem Signature 04: maddox
Problem Signature 05: 1.0.0.0
Problem Signature 06: 4fa4f711
Problem Signature 07: 4aa
Problem Signature 08: 8
Problem Signature 09: System.IO.FileNotFoundException
OS Version: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.768.3
Locale ID: 2057




Since installing the patch and min-patch I can't get the game to start, ctd, every time, get the above message...


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