Wow! Thats a big call. If anything devs have a responsibility to meet the system requirements that they published. They do not have the responsibility to ensure that their software will be compatible with all future operating systems.

I have boxes of old sims that are incompatable with current systems. It would be unreasonable for me to expect their developers to fix them up so I can play them on my current system.

That the devs would WANT COD to work with Windows 8 is a given. How much time and resources they have available is the big question.

It's is a pitty that Microsoft offers a compatability mode for older software and it looks like doesn't work!.

Cheers

Woah
Would this have anything to do with Windows 7 Professional having the ability to run Virtual XP Mode???? To run legacy apps not compatible with Windows 7 or was it just a gift from Microsoft because they are just that cool??

Does COD run in an virtual XP environment? I hope not.

Though if you go to the MS website they say "Note that Program Compatibility Assistant doesn't monitor apps that work at low system levels (for example, kernel mode drivers, security, and backup apps). Due to the dependency of these apps on Windows system internals, you generally can't apply compatibility fixes to them."

I hope the devs have not had to use too many low level system calls to get COD running.

Some people might think Microsoft is 'cool' but I thought 'cool' was reserved for apple? ( The last apple product I owned was a Apple ][+ and that was a clone at that ;) )

This was covered in another thread. The incompatibility with the CLoD installer running Win 8 is:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...l2CODerror.jpg

Windows 8 Pro here. VC redist from CoD installs fine on clean system. It would probably fail, if some software installed same or newer version before CoD installation.

P.S: For clarification: CoD installs fine, all prerequisites are met, but it simply exits to desktop after launch.

Virtual XP Mode is just Windows Virtual PC software running XP virtual machine under the hood. It does not support hardware acceleration and is basically useful only for legacy desktop applications or running 16-bit software. The only cool thing about it is that you get XP license.

Well the problem is not with .net 4.5, I'm running windows 7 with .net 4.5 and C.o.D runs fine. No problems that weren't there with .net 4.0. Haven't decided wether to try windows 8 or not, but it is certainly a cheap option at the moment. Can't see a lot of reasons to upgrade, it appears that all I will get is maybe the touch screen ability if I decide to get a touch screen capable monitor. There have been a lot of negatives from the gaming community over windows 8 with a lot of programs not working.

Sources?

I personally haven't had any issues apart from CLoD, but then again, there's a lot of mainstream games I never play anyway. Just curious to see the posts by people that claims that <insert game here> doesn't work.

if ( il2.isCompatible)
{
me.buyGame("Battle of Moscow");
}
else{
}

it not too much to ask for a pretty recent game that is being patched regularly, also seeing as i paid 30 quid for a POS that most of the time didnt work properly, if indeed there to be no win8 support, then thats fine, i will never buy another title from these devs, they lose my support.
you have to get with the plan,but i am sure luthier and his team will eventually have to roll out a win8 patch for the game because of BOM.

again its not MS's call, its a dev issue with the game code.
your argument is flawed, hell even B17 the mighty eigth works on win8.
il2 forgotten battles works on win8, doom1/2/3 works on win8
microsoft combat flight simulator 1 even works on win 8,
"big call" i dont think so, more like an expected dev priority and if luthiers team cant be arsed then shame on them

System Requirements Taken from the official store on steam
Hmmm! Don't see no Windows 8 on that list do you?

Like I said, I'm sure the devs, you, me, and I guess 99% of the community would like COD to run on Windows 8 - not that I'm in the market for a new OS just yet, but people stamping their feet and shouting I want, I want or I pack my bags and you'll never see my money again does seem a bit purile.

Sorry to here you've had a bad experience with COD, I've had a lot smoother run.

If you've read the last page or so of the thread you'll notice some evidence that the problem stems from Microsofts implementation of Visual C++. I'ld hope that a major software company like Microsoft would be particular about things being backwardly compatable, wouldn't you?

Hopefully there's an easy fix for this. For the long term good of the series I hope that it gets sorted really soon.

See you online sometime!

Cheers!

+1 Skoshi. ;)

+1 from me as well.

As a Win8-user, I'd love to see CLoD work on it, either through an official fix from either 1C or MicroSoft, or through a community fix. If no such fix is forthcoming, I'll simply bide my time and take a chillpill until BoM is available, and see how things go from there.

Just for clearance: CloD is running @a fresh install of Win8??? (mentioned HERE--> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...1&postcount=41)

Ive Win8 Pro here too, with only LOL, XCOM and CLoD installed.

LOL and Xcom (Steam) running fine, CloD not...

So what VCRedists are there in your "programs and functions"? (I have multiple)

The UI is a little tricky to use at first but once you get the hang of it, its very intuitive.

It installs fine, but does not run. Look few posts higher.

oh, might have missed this. :( Thx!

Flordmonkey,

Here's a link to just one of the sites that I found when doing a search on Windows 8 problems. There are heaps more.

http://www.inquisitr.com/378666/the-...me-developers/

I kinda knew that. I think. I read about it some where. Plus some guy named Puppet said it was so on Teamspeak. And he seems fairly trustworthy.

I wonder if the guy who wrote that article understood from what he "compiled" it? It basically mixes Windows 8 on PC with Windows RT on ARM (phones, tablets and so on), and tries to create fears. Windows RT will allow running only Windows Runtime apps distributed via Microsoft Store (Microsoft intends to do the same what Apple does), but it has nothing to do with PC, and is intended for different hardware and market (in which games like Angry Birds are considered world acclaimed).

The fun part of that article is that it only deals with games coming out in Microsoft's own store. The rules does NOT apply to any game that's distributed through boxed sales, or sales through third-party applications like Steam. It also doesn't take into effect the differences between Windows 8 RT and Windows 8 Pro, which are fairly distinct, yet somehow confuse the pants&shirts off of people. And even IF Microsoft implemented those rules on Win8 Pro, they'd face two major problems, namely 1: They'd seriously hurt their own revenues by denying the gamer markets, and 2: any sort of protection that Microsoft would implement would be broken faster than you can say "Whee!".

Some people will say that Win8 will kill PC gaming. Which is, quite frankly, utter bull, since anything running Win8 RT isn't a "true" PC at all. It's basically an overgrown cellphone with an ARM-CPU in it, and thus it's subject to exactly the same limitations as you have on iOS and Android, except there it's Apple/Google's rules to adhere to when it comes to apps.

The article deals with software and games sold over the Microsoft Store. As long as you can install and run for example Valve's Steam, or the Origin-portal, there's no issue since they are exempt from the Microsoft Store-standards due to the very fact that they're not distributed through those channels.

To think that Microsoft would remove a VERY sizable portion of their customer base in forcing all thirdparty application/game distribution systems to adhere to the same guidelines and rules that is in effect in the MS Store is absolutely and utterly ludicrous. In fact, it's outright stupid, idiotic and akin to trying to fly an ME109 with it's prop on backwards.

Well BOM is pretty much CloD with some add-ons so if 1C wants to sell a new game(BOM) they better make it work with the newest OS ie Windows 8. If not then you can kiss this game (and whats left of the WWII flight sim world) goodbye.

Microsoft has already backpedaled on their decision to restrict PEGI 18 games in the Windows app store.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/...-pegi18-win8/1

True, but that's only relevant for the appstore. Unless Microsoft wants to severely and drastically piss off every Windowsgamer from here to eternity, no such limitations will be forthcoming for Windows 8 Pro. Which is what people seem to be so hideously afraid of.

No, it doesn't install fine. When you click on the launcher after the initial install, it's trying to run the final setup by installing the redistributables. Where it fails is the one I cited.

...too bad, we get no respond from the devs :(

Some respond from the devs concerning Windows 8 please!
 

Hi folks,
hi devs,
you have done a quite good work fixing CloD. It is really doing well for me, except the Windows 8 "thing".

It seems like there is a problem with Visual C++ runtime in Windows 8. I am aware, that the system specs of CloD did not mention Windows 8 (cause it was released much earlier than Win 8).

But, all of my games and sims are running @win8 except Cliffs of Dover.

It would really be nice, if someone of you could spend a few sentences, if we ever will have a chance (or a mini patch?) for Windows 8 compatibility?

Thanks a lot!

yes please, win8 here and new GPU ready to go, some acknowledgment please.

I wouldn't hold my breath for win8 compatibility for CoD, Win8 will be the Windows Millenium Edition of today, i'd say.

One can only hope!

well i hope not Robtek, actually win8 is as good if not better than win7, i havent found anything out of the ordinary apart from CloD not working, every other game works, even B17 the mighty eighth :)

i am hoping luthiers and the team can make a quick patch before BoM, but i'll wait if i have to. i heard they were testing CloD on win8 already???

There's nothing wrong with Win8 in terms of what it's meant to do. In fact in some small ways it's better than Win7 in terms of speed and stability around every day use and general applications.

The reason why commentators are saying Win8 will be a flop is because it's the first time MS have decided to lock down development, and this has many developers running for the hills.

While Win8 still has the traditional desktop which is an open development space, the new Metro environment is closed and this is what MS will be pushing and supporting in all future versions of Windows.

Now it's no secret games are the biggest drivers of PC innovations but it's this very industry that is saying that they're seriously contemplating leaving Windows. If you look at the Metro / Win App Store requirements, 99% of games wouldn't be able run on it because they don't comply with the rules (yes this is still after MS announced they'll allow R18 content), even 2011's game of the year Skyrim would not be able to be sold through the new Windows App Store.

Also Valve's Steam distribution system is not allowed to run in Metro. Now there are lots of people (including myself) who have bought a tonne of games using Steam, I've even bought games on Steam for which I have the DVD version, mainly because the DVD is damaged (thanks kids) and for just as a backup.

It for this reason I'm taking a wait and see approach for future versions of Windows. I think if MS don't change their minds, Win8 will be the new Millennium edition and Win7 will the new XP edition. Or in the case of Valve software, gamers will be flocking to Linux.

But if you have Windows8 Pro, it's supposed to have the traditional desktop as well for running old apps - not just Metro (or whatever they call it now). Am I right?

Yes, the traditional desktop is there in Windows 8 and works just the same minus the start button. Desktop apps are launched through the Metro interface just as they are launched from the Windows 7 start button. Steam works fine on the Windows 8 desktop, but it doesn't work in Metro. When you start Steam or traditional desktop games from Metro it will take you to the desktop and launch just like normal.

i bought a little app called "start8" it was only a couple of quid check it out
http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/
i cannot deal with the closed OS it's claustraphobic,so this neat little app bypasses the metro interface completely, effectively loading straight to the desktop, as a pc gamer, and an avid steam user (84 games) i found no problems whatsoever, steam runs fine, in fact win8 offers backward compatibility to win95. the only game not to run in all my games is....(drumroll) CloD?

win8 is neater, faster, sharper, streamlined and above all stable, the horror stories and rumours are completely unfounded and with start8 i can mix half desktop and keep the metro apps interface too.

Yes but for how long?

Have a read of this article which is very pro Win8 and tell me where you think flight simulations will fit in?

Even now on MSDN you can't officially develop games for Windows 8 metro using DirectX or OpenGL. Everything points you to XBoX and Windows Phones / Tablets programming using C# / HTML5 / XNA. Nothing wrong with those for your Angry Bird type games, but for cutting edge flight simulations nothing beats C / C++ with DirectX / OpenGL. As it stands with games developed using Mono C# which are on sale now on Win8, they admit that those games take a performance hit of anywhere from 10% to 40% compared to the same game developed on C++ and DirectX. Hardly a great thing for a flight sim or an ARMA III game.

According to that article MS will eventually kill off the desktop, as many of the top game developers are predicting, so where will that leave games that need to push the limits of hardware, where will that leave the next chapter after BoM?

I guess I'm ranting on like the hobo on the street corner yelling Armageddon but I just don't think people, who want flight sims to continue, fully understand what Win8 represents.

MS needs to lift the Gestapo-Ness of Metro development because I firmly believe the desktop will be killed off eventually.

If you want to get a feel of what a Metro flight sim will be like have a look at Infinite Flight:

http://flyingdevstudio.blogspot.com.au/p/games.html?m=1

Hardly what I would call serious flight simming. Otherwise us flight simmer may very well be heading off to Linux world.

This metro bs is a huge turn off.

Ok I need to back track and correct my rant :P

Looks like you can write an Win App Store compliant game using C++ / DirectX

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr.../br229580.aspx

Edit: Have learned that this is managed c++ / cli, so the performance still wouldn't be as good as unmanaged c++.

Hi,
I think it is up to the devs whether they support only metro or stick to the standard desktop. If most of the devs do not support metro, ms can push but will loose in the end.

As a Linuxuser I will have absolutly no probs when games, steam ... convert to Linux.

The question why only CloD does not work still persists.

Yesterday I thought of configuring dualboot with win8 and win7, just for CloD...

very good post and a great article AirHog71,
win 8 cost me a £25 upgrade, i don't use metro per se, i dont have an iphone or ipad etc, and for normal desktop computing and gaming win8 does the job (apart from CloD) :rolleyes: but if ever MS were to patch into the OS restrictive measures binding me to Metro, and using the Windows platform as an OS harmed pc gaming i would immediatedly uninstall it, and move to an OS that better met my needs, I am also very vindictive, so if MS showed me no respect for what I required as a customer, i would definately NOT reinstall win7, theres no point as the OS is dead. i would look elsewhere on the principle.
However MS failed big time on their latest flight endeavour "Flight" and there really isn't anything out there in real sim to compete against MSF-X (which works btw on win8) :) and i suppose i could dual boot my win7 to run any applications metro intimidates :)
If Luthier and his team release BoM and there is still only up to win7 compatibility, i might then relent and dual boot the system, but why should i have to? people here say things like "dont expect the devs to do anything soon on win8" but MS sure arn't going to either are they, most win7,XP,vista,ME,and win98/95 programs and apps work, the reason CloD doesn't MUST be Luthiers funky code? just sayin' so i am sure the dev team are already working on win8 compatibility for BoM, and when it rolls out it will sort out the CloD problem, i can understand them not having the funds to dedicate work to it, and am happily prepared to wait (been waiting since Win8 RP)
At the end of the day, if Metro kills c++ gaming on MS OS, people like us, gamers, modders, will just roll back to a previous system, or dedicate another PC to real gaming.

Any news concerning the Win8 issue?

...still waiting for the devs respond... will it come? ... or have they really focused only @BoM and CloD is "finished"?

Yes, that was made quite clear a long time ago.

Same thing...waiting update

Are there any plans to solve this? I didn't read anything about it.

Slightly OT and on a similar vein to AirHog and co., I think the point is that whether you can install third party programs to bypass Metro and regain the start menu or not, what is the actual advantage to installing Win 8 for a PC gamer? I haven't heard of any or seen any, but I bet they lock the next version of DirectX to Win 8 and above as they did with DX10/DX11 for Vista and above. I'm sick of supporting Microsoft as they continue to lock me into OS upgrades that I don't really need in order to access newer games and do little else but make my life a pain in the arse with such "features" as the shallow copy of sudo that was User Account Control.

I heard they even tried to patent that decades-old idea just to add blatant patent trolling to the reasons I can no longer support them. Even then they did it wrong by requiring no user password to bypass UAC, so it was just an annoyance and not a security feature.

Don't get me wrong, I've been watching videos and taking a look at reviews and write-ups of Win 8 since it was first announced just out of curiosity, I just still can't see any advantage.
WinXP to 7 was a good upgrade because it gave me access to some features of modern hardware e.g. TRIM for SSDs, but other than that I can't think of another killer/must-have feature.
Homegroups was flaky, System Restore still doesn't work, Windows Easy Transfer didn't work from XP the one time I tried it, the Control Panel is now even less intuitive, with some features only available from hyperlinks on the sidebar of other menus (not to mention the fact that joystick calibration, etc. has been split out into the games menu), the OS is still hilariously insecure compared to every other and maintaining it is just no fun, with each clean install requiring nearly every incremental update rather than a new combined update.
Also, there is now a requirement to install the previous operating system when using an upgrade disc rather than simply inserting the older OS's disc to go along with the annoyance of activation.

Given that the only reason I even boot into Windows at home any more is to play games, and with Valve planning to port their games to Linux, I am a happy camper and will be very happy to finally put a bullet in my Windows install when the day comes that I am no longer playing games that don't work in WINE and aren't ported to Linux/OpenGL.
Hilariously, L4D2 runs faster in Linux/OpenGL on the same hardware as well, which is somewhat embarrassing considering that Linux development is a new thing at Valve:

"Running Left 4 Dead 2 on Windows 7 with Direct3D drivers, we get 270.6 FPS as a baseline. The data is generated from an internal test case.

When we started with Linux, the initial version we got up and running was at 6 FPS. This is typical of an initial successful port to a new platform.

...

After this work, Left 4 Dead 2 is running at 315 FPS on Linux. That the Linux version runs faster than the Windows version (270.6) seems a little counter-intuitive, given the greater amount of time we have spent on the Windows version. However, it does speak to the underlying efficiency of the kernel and OpenGL. Interestingly, in the process of working with hardware vendors we also sped up the OpenGL implementation on Windows. Left 4 Dead 2 is now running at 303.4 FPS with that configuration."

This experience lead to the question: why does an OpenGL version of our game run faster than Direct3D on Windows 7? It appears that it’s not related to multitasking overhead. We have been doing some fairly close analysis and it comes down to a few additional microseconds overhead per batch in Direct3D which does not affect OpenGL on Windows. Now that we know the hardware is capable of more performance, we will go back and figure out how to mitigate this effect under Direct3D."

[Source: Valve Linux ]

The only sticking point I can foresee for simmers is Linux/Mac OS drivers for TrackIR, because the lack of interest from NaturalPoint is obvious.

tl;dr

I can find no advantage in upgrading to Win 8. Every other major OS is still better for everything except gaming support and that is now rapidly changing because the biggest game distribution service is jumping ship.

I don't have Steam / CoD here at work, if anyone has some knowhow and has a Windows SDK installed can you run a program called ILDASM.EXE (usually in the \bin folder of the SDK), then from within ILDASM.EXE open up the launcher.exe for CoD and double click on manifest key.

You should see what .NET version is required in the text output (this is assuming the .exe is a .NET application of course)

You can view the manifest of any .NET .exe or .dll, this may help nail down the .NET issue with Win8 and CoD.

Just remeber each version of .NET is idenpendant of each other, i.e. .NET 4.5 does not include all previous versions. If an app was created in .NET 3.5 and the machine only has .NET 4.0 installed, the app wont run. The user would need to install .NET 3.5.

here's the manifest code: Net 4.0 by the look of it.

I would imagine that the Sequel will be able to use Windows 8. Standalone COD is dead, but the Channel map in the Sequel will live on and prosper. Any fixes and features added in the Sequel will also apply to the Channel Map as well as any other map made for the Sequel. Its possible the devs and microsoft could make the Standalone COD compliant with Windows 8, but I'm sure the development has higher priorities right now. I have no idea if its a fix Microsoft has to make or the Development or both.

Ok so launcher.exe on it's own is targeting .NET 4.0 client profile, so it should run on Win8. It would pay to check the .dlls used in CoD and see if its the same.

I have been checking MSDN and I've read that in Win 8, .NET 4.5 has .NET 4.0 incorperated into it (this is a first).

http://blogs.technet.com/b/askcore/a...ework-3-5.aspx

I wonder if there is an issue with that version of .NET 4.5

I bought Win8 last night to try it out for myself. After I restored CoD in to my Steam library and ran it, it went to install .NET 3.5, problem is the installer hung. I don't know if it was the installer or that my net connection was really slow as my kids were complaining they couldn't login to thier Minecraft accounts. I'll check it all again when I get home.

This is a minor issue. They lack the interest, because majority of sims target Windows platform. If there were more ports of popular sims, NP would probably have to provide support for Linux or loose to LinuxTrack (which works with Webcams and TrackIR devices) or something similar.

The real issue is porting of games. It is not a trivial and cheap task. Valve can boast about linux porting, because lots of their games were created with intention to provide multiplatform support. This is not the case with majority of other older games, in which there is a more tight coupling between game parts and OS specific APIs.

I foresee TrackIR support as a problem because they don't necessarily have any relevant experience that would equip them to provide such support - but you are right, it would be a sink or swim venture for them in that scenario. Thanks for pointing out linux-track!
I agree that we shouldn't expect many older games to be ported. The majority of my favourite games work great in WINE (or Dosbox!), but that is just good luck. GOG.com have moved into the Mac market recently, and it will be interesting to see whether they take that a step beyond offering Dosbox games and how the rest of the PC gaming market reacts to Valve's move.
One of the promising things about the many Kickstarter-like projects and indeed many indie games is the prevalence of a Linux/Mac OS port in the planned feature list. If that is actually followed through and catches on it would certainly have a positive effect.

Hi there,
thanks for your replies. In fact Windows 8 gives no boost to games. According to some article I read on tomshardware, 8 is as fast as 7 in most situations.

So: No, there is no need to switch to 8, when using 7.

If you are interested in additional features which are offered by the 8 pro version (e.g. hyper-v, faster boot etc.), this might be a point for someone to switch.

If you still run XP you may take the chance of getting a cheap 8 (til end of January 2013).

Interesting fact is: Only CloD does not work. Every other game (I own) does its job quite well @8.

@Airhog: If you uninstall all previous installations of .net Framework @8, the installer does its job, but CloD only starts for a second (steam says "Playing Cliffs of dover") then quits.

It is strange that COD is the only "AAA"-type title that I have seen that still does not work with Windows 8. L.A. Noire didn't work with Windows 8, but it had to do with .NET 4 in their Social Club program. They released a new version and it works just fine in 8 now.

I looked into the .NET issue at work last week. I set up a Windows 7 and Windows 8 box. On the Windows 7 machine, I skipped installing .NET 4 and went straight to 4.5, since that would be closer to the environment in Windows 8. I used procmon on both machines to see what Launcher.exe is doing. COD worked just fine on Windows 7, but it was still a no-go on Windows 8. I could not find anything in the capture spew from procmon that would lead me to believe anything was wrong in Windows 8. I haven't had any more time to look into it.

having looked into the 2 public keys below in NET the .publickeytoken = (8B 68 39 72 5E 48 40 4F ) doesn't exist in the key list, could this have anything to do with the problem?
also the keys in the lists are in this format PublicKeyToken="b77a5c561934e089" no gaps, i know code can be jittery at best of times, could this be an issue?

@jojimbo: I dont know if this might be an issue...

I tried to look what Steam is "telling me" before CloD (launcher.exe) gets terminated.

Seems like it is trying to sync with the cloud, than crashes?

Uninstalling the .NET packages will only force them to be reinstalled by Win8 itself, and you can't use the individual installers like in Win7. It was interesting that .NET 3.5 wasn't listed in the active packages via add/remove AFTER CoD/Steam invoked the installer. So I done a force install of the packages and I also used the .NET repair tool for Win8 but still nothing.

Without the source code to everything its near impossible to debug this.

The manifest file you're reading just describes the assembies being used. Each manifest will be different depending on how you code your app. But it's not actual running code, it's meant for the CLR.

.NET 2.0,3.0,3.5,4.0,4.5 can't be installed from external packages on Win8. They all go as "Windows features" and can be configured via Control Panel –> Program and Features -> Turn Windows features on or off. .NET 3.5 (and 2.0,3.0 are included in same feature) can be turned on/off, but .NET 4.5 (and 4.0) can't - it is always on. Win8 turns .NET 3.5 feature on by itself upon installation of CoD.

This I know however after reinstalling CoD .NET 3.5 wasn't listed as a package. I had to do a force install via the console and then it showed up.

...reinstalled my windows 7 image today (thanks clonezilla)... as conclusion that faster boot and some goodies are not enough to stay with 8 at this time. Perhaps there will be a fix in future, but for now 8 is gone from my harddisc...

Well before I go down that road I'll check out whats what with the Process Monitor.

Linix looks to be flavour of the month, check out

http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/06/n...-drivers-r310/

The idea of a purpose built gaming os using linix with none of the other resource hogging components sounds appealing. I wonder if they can get enough developer support to make it viable.


Cheers!

Is it just me or is there a change in the *air* :P

Hi folks,
a push for Linux will be very very nice.

@AirHog71: Will be interesting if you can find something with procmon, I did not.

Daniel

Problem is:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...l2CODerror.jpg

This is what the installer is trying to run after the initial game install when you attempt to launch the game and it tries to run the final game set up. You can even download the same redistributable direct from MS and it will give you the identical failure.

I don't think that's actually the cause of COD's failure to launch. I have never gotten that error on Windows 8 when I have tried to install COD. I have gotten messages from Steam when launching other games that state that they will install the VC++ redist every time I launch them, but those games still work fine.

well its unfortunate the devs cant be arsed to visit their own forums and let us know (their customers) whats going on! however much i want to play CoD i won't be uninstalling my version of windows 8 just to play it.

They've already told us, Cliffs of Dover is done and dusted.

Very bad that they dont give a cent of interest to their prior customers. I can not understand this.

A simple : "No it is not supported and will never be" or "we will look into it" will be not that big thing -> I thought....

but unfortunatly, nothing...

Dont know if I will buy the sequel...

Playing CloD does not give me the feeling of really having fun... don't know why... perhaps I am doing something wrong... AI comms not working, campaign not working as expected..., perhaps I should go to TS and join up some dogfights... but this is OT

This specific redistributable is called for by the launcher via 63950_install.vdf when you first try to launch the game after the initial install. There are of course different C++ redistributables. This particular one is not currently compatible with Win 8.

I for one would love to know if cod could eventually be played on win 8...

I still use vista which works well for me, but lately I've been toying with the idea of upgrading... My main issue is that the win 7 upgrade is £83 and I can now get the win 8 upgrade for £25...

So any info on 8 is more than welcome

Are you gettng this each time you've reinstalled CoD?

In my case it wanted to install .NET 3.5 not the C++ redists. I actually "restored" CoD after backing it up when I was in Win7, not installing it from DVD / Download.

I feel your pain, I think the devs are putting everything into BoM at the moment.

Now I'm not the most experienced coder, I've only been doing it for 2 years in a closed evironement using only C#, I've been asking the more experienced guys in my team what the possibilities are. There could be 100's of possible reasons for this bug.

My gut feel is this: It's a glitch with the launcher.exe, somewhere in the code there is an incompatibility with .NET assemblies on Win8. Who should fix it? Well as a developer it's always your job to make sure the code runs on the OS you've intended it for, unfortunately, you need to remember that CoD was never meant for Win8 so its the user that takes the risk.

I wonder what you're doing wrong or what is different about your system to other people? Alot of other people seam to be able to install and run.

Oh! your specs seem quite low! It doesn't actually meet the minimum requirements "Minimum" specs list 2Ghz CPU and 2Gig ram and 512MB video card - and many people are say that the minimum specs are very optimistic!

Bye!

hahaha i deleted that post, but you were quick to brown nose, hey i am really glad your game runs, be sure wait stalking in the wings to jump on everyone who has problems to point out you don't and they're all wrong.

Those specs are meant to be a joke, which was obviously lost on you!!!

You generally tend to reap what you sow big fella! Your post was intentionally rude and designed to provoke a reaction.

I can forgive that but you also posted missleading information - thus my query on your system specs and you lied! You said you we were never going to hear from you again!

Thats just sad and pathetic!

Bye!

I apologise Skoshi Tiger, really I took your post all out of context and assumed you were trolling, I had returned and deleted the previous "rage" post because on hindsight it was a kneejerk reaction while my blood was boiling and took your post in a negative way.
I do actually love this game, it is one of the best what is frustrating is waiting for a win8 patch for months, then trying for hours to get the launcher to work, swapping out redists etc, then giving up on that and creating another drive, installing my old win7 "only to run this game" and after ALL that have more problems with the launcher (still doesnt work tried everything) tried deleting the cache, deleting the conf.ini, tried forcing D3D9, and it SHOULD work, i am not going to give up, but i was tired and angry, and felt we have been abandoned, so i took your post as a dig at me?
I wont give up though i will get this damn game to work so i can use Les fx mod, and grab those great looking 3rd party career campaign expansion.

I will again be flying over the cliffs of dover and not looking at a Launcher fail error, but where do you go to vent angry frustrations? i paid £29.99 like every other hapless punter, i even knew it was dodgy, but gave it a shot because i beleieved in Luthier and the team, it was for me like a pledge.

still working right now, poring over every forum, every post for a morsel of hope, a tweak of victory, and again, i apologise for jumping down your throat whern really you were only trying to help.

edit: got it to run on my win7 partition, still finnicky, GTX550ti FTW :) dunno what happened, it just worked!!!

Not a problem Jojimbo! Sorry for any comments that I made that were out of line. I think alot of us are a bit on edge these days.

Good to hear you had some success with Win 7. See ya online sometime!

It would be good to hear some official word on the Windows 8 issue though!

Cheers!

I have tried Windows 8 on a I5 cpu 8gb ddr3 memory Pc and it is very unstable without any games!!!.

@Skoshi Tiger +1 -- yes some respond from devs would be nice...

I heard they all got fired by 1C :(

I hope not, but in case you are right than we've to wait longer than expected...

Any news I just updated to Windows 8. Have they resolved anything in the past month?

unfortunately it's not going to happen anytime soon, i made a windows 7 partition just for this game.

Is the problem with C.o.D. , Steam, or both. I read that Vista was a pig of an OS but I never had any problems with it. Up graded from Vista to W7 this year. Has anyone with W8 tried C.o.D. with offline mode? do you still have the same results?

In some fields I hope, that win8 don`t become a second millenium edition, but I would strongly prefer to get away from this vista/win7 thing. Win7 is running okay, but I really love the upcoming topic on hardware accelration of sound again. Since vista we lost this great possibilty because of the crappy xbox sh....t with windows direct sound. Hopefully something like the idea of eax is coming back to enhance sound.

Also some other features are interesting although I hat this app thing or the direction to it. I hope to get a win7 with hardware acceleration and some other useful stuff. Do not need the new app and widget thing.

the problem lies in c++2010 code not initiating correctly in the launcher of steam, but it wont work offline either hence the win7 partition.

windows 8 is really good, once you go 8, 7 is too late :) most people are put off by the "no start menu" but there are already 3rd party apps that will load you straight to the desktop. i use a little program called "start8" you need never cast your eyes upon Metro :)

so is the problem steam or COD ????

It's a combination between how COD is programmed and how Windows 8 handles C++ 2010, not Steam.

I recently installed windows 8 to test it. Even though i was really pessimistic about metro i might not go back to windows 7. Windows 8 feels really fast also start8 gives nice old start menu. Not being able to run COD can be quite the disadvantage but i got bored of "testing" it even then i had windows 7 on my machine :grin:

Windows 8 user here as well, and I got the same error.
How about updating the Steam page to warn about this issue? I know it doesn't list Win 8 specifically, but this is the only game I've tried that does not work with Win 8. I've tried about 60 games, so I think It can be pretty safe to say this is an error specifically with COD and not Win 8. So a warning on the store page would be nice. Right now, with no official word from the devs, I feel like I've pretty much flushed 20€ down the drain.
Cheers

I think it is pretty contraproductive to not take 8 on a AS IS base. I would not mess around with 3rd party soft, to get back the old style menu.

But this is everybodies own decision.

The big no go to "8" is that CloD is not running.

I got the same screen when I was installing DCS Worlds, but DCS Worlds with P51 works on win8 64bit.

Could be this file?

"InstallScript"
{
"Run Process"
{
"DirectX"
{
"process 1" "%INSTALLDIR%\\redist\\DirectX\\DXSETUP.exe"
"NoCleanUp" "1"
"command 1" "/silent"
}
"VCRedist"
{
"process 1" "%INSTALLDIR%\\redist\\VCRedist\\vcredist_x86. exe"
"NoCleanUp" "1"
"command 1" "/Q"
}
"GDFInstall"
{
"process 1" "%INSTALLDIR%\\redist\\GDF\\GDFInstall.exe"
"command 1" "/silent /installpath \"%INSTALLDIR%\" launchergdf.dll"
}
"DotNetFx40_Client"
{
"process 1" "%INSTALLDIR%\\redist\\DotNetFx40_Client\\DotNetFx 40_Client_x86_x64.exe"
"NoCleanUp" "1"
"command 1" "/passive /showfinalerror /promptrestart"
"IgnoreExitCode" "1"
}
}
"Run Process On Uninstall"
{
"GDFUnintall"
{
"process 1" "%INSTALLDIR%\\redist\\GDF\\GDFInstall.exe"
"command 1" "/silent /u /installpath \"%INSTALLDIR%\" launchergdf.dll"
}
}
}
"kvsignatures"
{
"InstallScript" "97740562954e36bc348aa61246de2c0aea013345248f3da2b 649fd1d9d445f27abe0e2b5a50d3b17033ca9f152823343875 56694fa2ac05c57aacb18fc02cbd51b11e160e331a8b9b3c7d b870ed29cdee2438c2e7937f45ff272198408128d4a3176d73 b5eead7ac78bb2e3138736a67ac8d04b812edda319bf5f3d5c 0a0c37f"
}

S!

Still on the verge upgrading to Windows 8 as IL-2 is not an issue, not playing it that much anyway. But how else have you felt it is in daily use? In gaming there is small if any difference. Pros and cons are welcome :)

I have been using it for a few days & so far I like it better than win7. If it was not for the Start8 program I would of never installed it. So far everything is running fine except COD. :/

I can't believe there is not a sticky saying do not install Windows 8 if you want to keep playing IL2 COD. Has one of the developers even commented on this issue in the forums?

The .NET Framework 4.5 is a highly compatible, in-place update to the .NET Framework 4. By using the .NET Framework 4.5 together with the C#, Visual Basic, or F# programming language, you can write Windows apps. The .NET Framework 4.5 includes significant language and framework enhancements for C#, Visual Basic, and F# (so that you can more easily write asynchronous code), the blending of control flow in synchronous code, a responsive UI, and web app scalability . The .NET Framework 4.5 adds substantial improvements to other functional areas such as ASP.NET, Managed Extensibility Framework, Windows Communication Foundation, Windows Workflow Foundation, and Windows Identity Foundation. The .NET Framework 4.5 delivers better performance, reliability, and security. :confused:

I found this on redirecting assembly versions

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/7wd6ex19.aspx

on the contrary - the last big no go for CLOD, no Win 8 support. I am tired of testing this software.