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Sounds like great fun!!!
Best wishes might the best win :o |
Xbox 360 gamertag
Sgt Madmax Fury would like to take part in this competition.:cool:
Thank you. |
Please, if you wish to join then add your psn/gamertag along with your post, dont just type "I would like to join", thank you.
We will be using the YAK and its variants. Poll time is over. Please begin figuring out teams. Keep joining the tournament, this tournament wont last long so it wont really require much of your time, a max of 3 back to back 20 minute matches (in case that you make it to the final or 3rd place match) spread throughout 3-4 weeks |
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Oooh Yak's :D
Well, who on the PS3 side wants me as a teammate? :D |
To All,
Now that we know that the YAK will be this tournament's bird, I would like to introduce another rule (this will also be updated to the rules on the first post). The Team that is playing on a HOME MAP (the host team) will not only have the advantage of flying on their favorite map and favorite side of the map, but also they will be able to have first pick on what variant of the YAK they will fly. Both (home map) players must fly the same type of YAK. The VISITOR TEAM (away team) will then have to fly any of the other 2 YAKs (visitor team has the option of flying the same type of YAK or a combination of the 2 YAKs that the Home Team did not choose). Example: Host (home) team= player X1 & player X2 Away (visitor) team = player Y1 & player Y2 Host team's MAP = Dover (favorite side = B) Host team's YAK = YAK-3 Pre-Game Launch (lobby) should look like this: MAP: Dover (Side A) (4 possibilites) 1. player Y1 (YAK-1), player Y2 (YAK-1) 2. player Y1 (YAK-9), player Y2 (YAK-9) 3. player Y1 (YAK-1), player Y2 (YAK-9) 4. player Y1 (YAK-9), player Y2 (YAK-1) (Side B) (1 possibility) 1. player X1 (YAK-3), player X2 (YAK-3) (REMEMBER ALL TEAMS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY AS HOST (HOME TEAM) ONCE PER RIVAL) Sorry for long explanation I want it to be clear :) |
Cool Edal. Kav and I make a squad. We'll get back to you with the intel on home-map and flight-lead.
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Count me in.
You can count me in as well. (Popes been nagging me about taking part anyway!!)
My vote is for the Yaks. Despite being not hard to fly or control, even with the settings at 100%, the I-16's do have annoying engine foibles, etc. and forgetting these in the heat of battle gives enough problems alone. |
Approved
GT: Sgt Madmax Fury GT: Panzergranate |
XBOX players,
2 more approved players and we are ready to go. PS3, Come on comrades lets get those 16 players, 4 more approved players to go. If you are already an approved player then please begin to team up with another approved player. I will need for you to post both player's IDs and the name of your team along with your HOME MAP (favorite map) only. Thank you |
Edal, Sgt Madmax has asked me to enter GT: Jimjamjaro into the xbox competition on his behalf as he doesn't have access to this forum. He would be Madmax's wingman, so Madmax would have full management & results duty for that team. I approve this.
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Cheers!
Thank you Mr Pope!
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Thank you pope,
we need more teams please, dont forget to name your HOME MAP TEAMS so far: PS3: mcq59 + kavorland - MAP: ? XBOX: Sgt Madmax Fury + Jimjamjaro - MAP: ? Important: We need 1 more player, both for PS3 and XBOX, in order to be able to run this Tournament (minimum of 12 players), Friday October 21st will be the last day to enlist, also teams must be ready by this day along with their favorite MAP, if you are not on a team then you will be assigned a random team member, (PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO SELECT YOUR OWN TEAM MEMBER) Tournament will begin on Monday October 24. If we dont manage to gather 16 players then we will only take 12 players. Tournament will have to change to a Group Stage + Eliminatory Stage style, with 2 groups containing 3 teams each, each team will then play against the other 2 teams on their group twice (HOME and AWAY), then there will only be a FINAL and a MATCH FOR 3RD PlACE, the FINAL will be a fight between the two 1st place teams from each group, the MATCH FOR 3RD PLACE will be fought between the two 2nd place teams from each group. |
Home map
XBOX: Sgt Madmax Fury + Jimjamjaro - MAP: BRITAIN.
Team name, 666th Armageddon. |
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I am looking forward to this tournament, and to try to battle you guys in the skies again.
This is my player info: Homemap: Britain Posistion: Wingleader Wingman: McQ59 Prefered plane: Yak 3 Prefered days: Monday to Thursday Prefered time: 10 pm and out ECT+1 Connection ratio: Down 4 mbit/sec - up 0,4 mbit/sec PSN id: kavorland |
Hi guys I would love to play in the XBOX tourney.
Yes Pope I finally got round to joining this forum!!! See you soon. PS my gamer tag is the same as this one. |
Welcome!
Good to see you on the forum Count, lots of good info here! :cool:
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Tournament starts 23 Oct?
It's Thursday 20th Oct, 3 days to go, is everything going to schedule?
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Anyway, these are the suggested teams on xbox, leader first. Let me know if this isn't ok for anyone. Sgt Madmax fury & Jimjamjaro [confirmed] Robotic Pope & xtomisx [confirmed] Count von bek & Panzergranate [confirmed] Bucketmanroc & EvangelusE Bobbysockser & Sergius186 U2117AZ & Nineinchdaddy69 I'd like to go with these 12 players, I don't think we can get 3 more in time, and as I said before I have never seen Redman before on Xbox IL2 so I suggest he concentrate on the PS3 side. |
Beautiful. This made my day robotic pope, thank you for showing so much interest in making this work.
Xbox players are now complete Yes, I also think its a good idea to delay the tournament a little, Please use the extra days to get confortable with your wingman. PS3, what is going on with teams? We also need 1 more player. I will team up with whoever ends up with no team mate at the end Sorry, I just woke up and I'm typing this on my phone, I will update teams and other things later at night, it's currently 7am for me, keep posting, I have not disappeared just a bit busy, thanks again pope |
Ok, so instead of October 23, the tournament will begin Friday October 28, this is final. No more changes.
We will have a date for the live randomizing of the tournament groups soon Robotic pope, Can you please check with team leaders if they all have any sort of device to take photos with? (camera, phone) this is how they will have to report results, as soon as I have a confirmation I will contact them via e-mail |
Thanks Edal, its the least I can do. The camera results thing maybe a problem for some, I will ask everyone though. Although I think we will probably all be flying our matches at the same times so I can probably referee any match that needs a camera. Also I do trust all these chaps so as a last resort i'm sure a writen record of a match from both leaders will be acurate.
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Hi Edal,
I *think* I am with "The Few". This is assuming he is in the GMT timezone. I have no idea what map we are on, but I have sent him a PM to ask. |
that is agreeable with me. sergius i sent you a PM.
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Disengagement.
Panzer,Jimjamjaro,U2711AZ & myself tried a few matches using the tournament rules tonight.
We all seem a little confused on the rule of disengagement. This must be understood by all involved to ensure a smooth and successfull competition. :) |
my take on the disengagement rule is that once any one aircraft is eliminated the fighting stops ,you basically rtb until you don't see the enemy on radar anymore .
thats why the rules about having a mic are needed.if that rule is waived i suggest that both sides must form up near there base.in other words if you die you must hang back waiting for a visual of your teammate.that seems to be in the spirit of the rule edal has in there,please correct me if i am wrong. |
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Well explained Bucket, seems straight forward enough, mics do seem to be mandatory I reckon. |
your welcome max,if i am right we can test it out your friday or saturday evening.
when are you are you gonna go sluming with us bobbysocks? |
didnt have to go out of town this weekend...so tomorrow. what time GMT? i usually get on like 9ish/ 10ish uk time.
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Guys I will be absent for 3 days, will be out of town. For any questions please contact MAC for these following three days, when I return we will do the randomized groups hopefully we will be complete on the PS3.
keep testing the tournament rules and post any feedback (problems that may present), thanks. PS3, please find a team mate, thanks |
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we tried a few practice games today and it was interesting. only real problem we experienced was on disengagement meeting up with your team mate. a mic is going to be crucial here. but it went well overall.
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ikkurina and olife for the french team |
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Who's your team's leader, and what is your home map? MAC |
Hello all,
Mage_016 and myself, MACADEMIC, are proud to announce ourselves as team MAMA! Team leader: MAC Home map: Sicily, coast :) MAC & Mage Team MAMA! |
Just to keep y'all updated; I haven't heard form The Few (Cep32) in a while and he hasn't responded to my add request.
I want to be sure he can fly when I can. |
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map : great britain |
Hello,
Seems like we are complete now on the PS3 too. Thank you to those who have posted their teams. Any more problems with disengagement rule? Or anything else? Xbox, Would you it be better for all, (pad and flight stick users) to keep the HUD optional? |
Edal,
The Few (Cep) contacted me last night, we would like to fly the Dover map :) |
@Edal:
KAV is wingcommander and flightlead for "Jagerving1". Check his previous post and my earlier pm to you. Thanks :) |
At this point I'd ask to be put on the reserve list in case someone needs a wingman. Happy flying gents!
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Okay JD,
You're hereby confirmed for the tourney! Welcome! MAC |
so did we decide on the rules changes for xbox? we using HUD, minimal HUD, no HUD? anything else of importance?
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Obviously I'd prefer to have the HUD for the throttle percentage. The whole point is to make the flying in the competition as realistic as we can and it isn't at all realistic to have to fly while guessing the throttle position. What is minimal HUD? I thought it was on/off.
I've got some names for some teams. Bucketmanroc & EvangelusE -- The Aaayyy? Team Robotic Pope & xtomisx -- Team Yoohoo -- Berlin map Count von bek & Panzergranate -- Team KILLalot |
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Main reason for disallowing HUD on the PS3 was that with the update they've introduced planes at a large distance showing as fat black dots in the sky, which would change into the rendered airplanes at a certain distance. So it's kind of a visiblity enhancer. Second reason for disallowing it was to get people to learn and read the cockpit instruments.
Not sure about the first point on the X360 though. MAC |
Must withdraw from tourney
Regret to withdraw from this tourney. I was unable to secure a wingman. I have not been able to consistently get on the forum to keep up. My main avenue for contact was at work and they have installed so many Baracuda blockers it is impossible. Best of luck to you all. If you see me on and need practice, will be happy to engage on your maps using tourney rules. Warmest WalterNowotny
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Update!!!!!
Teams Complete :)
Some still need to name their team and provide their HOME MAP info, so this is what is going to happen. 1. For the nameless teams, please provide it when you report your results, I will then update your info. I will give you temporary names so please check to see in what group you end up in and vs what team you will play this first week. 2. For HOME MAP, I will check your results, which ever MAP you fly on for your HOME MATCH I will automatically assign that MAP for your team for the rest of the Tournament. Reporting Results PS3 - Please remember (both Flight Leaders of a match, only) * attach screenshot of results and add the following info: 1. Home Team vs Visitor Team (names) 2. Planes used for all players (read the rules for more info about the selection of planes) Xbox - Report by sending the following info to Robotic Pope A. take a photo of the match results and add: 1. Home Team vs Visitor Team (names) 2. Planes used for all players or B. Write down and send the following info: 1. Home Team vs Visitor Team (names), include their deaths, and "scored" kills. 2. Planes used for all players 3. Map Used 4. Final Ticket Score, example: 286 - 290 Regarding the Rules: changes * XBOX - HUD rule is optional * PS3 - no changes * Disengagement rule stays as posted originally * Tournament will now be Group Stage + Eliminatory Stage + Win= 3 points, Draw= 1 point, Loss = 0 points. + There will be 2 Groups of 3 Teams, the first place of each group will fight for the "Gruesome Twosome" title in the Final + Stats will be added: Group Position will depend on the following order: Points, Kills, least amount of Deaths. (remember that your team's kills will be the total amount of deaths of your enemies only, not the computer scored kills) |
Teams
PS3 (leader in blue) 1. Jagerving1 (mcQ59 + kavorland) MAP: Britain 2. MAMA! (Mage_016 + Macademic) MAP: Sicily, coast 3. French Team (Ikkurina + olife) MAP: Britain 4. Few 51 (reaper1526 + cep32) MAP: Britain 5. Nameless Ghosts (themesitor + JRHOODY1) MAP: unknown 6. Birds of Steel (edal86 + McKinneyJD) MAP: Sicily, coast XBOX 360 (leader in green) 1. 666th Armageddon (Sgt Madmax fury & Jimjamjaro) MAP: Britain 2. Yoohoo (Robotic Pope & xtomisx) MAP: Berlin 3. KILLalot (Count von bek & Panzergranate) MAP: unknown 4. The Aaayyy? (Bucketmanroc & EvangelusE) MAP: unknown 5. The Unknowns (Bobbysockser & Sergius186) MAP: unknown 6. The No Names (U2117AZ & Nineinchdaddy69) MAP: unknown ** Groups will be Randomized at 09:45 UTC for PS3, and 09:50 UTC for xbox 10/28/2011 - website RANDOM.ORG will be used to randomized these groups - all team names will be entered, then they will appear randomized, the first 3 teams will be in Group A, the last 3 teams will be in Group B. - I will add screenshots - ID code to bring up pregenerated randomization will be Gruesome Twosome MATCHES will be posted soon After :) |
PS3 Randomized Groups
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XBOX 360 Randomized Groups
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Period 1 - matches are ready!
The Matches and Groups are ready on the second post of this thread, sorry, I know they are not masterpieces of art, I promise I will make them look better, I must sleep now :)
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...07&postcount=2 Please post any questions or doubts. You guys have until November 7th to complete the Period 1 matches (11 days). Good Luck!!! Read rules again if you need too and please check the new UPDATE, above and/or on post #1 of this thread. http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...04&postcount=1 |
Disengagement Rule change
Disengagement rule is now optional because it may not always be the most convenient option for the wingmanless pilot, for example if you are on your enemy's six and he is after your wingman and he gets to shoot down your wingman but you now have a clear shot to avenge your partner, the disengagement rule will not allow this and it may create frustration and conflict, that is what I believe. So if we make this optional then the player will have to decide if continues the chase to avenge or disengages and regroups before his target's wingman comes to assist. The signal for wanting to disengage after your wingman is down will be to lower your landing gear and wiggle your wings, if attacked while in this situation please report
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To me it's even ok no disengagement at all. As on a real dogfighting. For example If your teammate has been shot down you can always choose to head for recovery or keep fighting 'til he rejoin after respawnig. For sure we better take a decision asap.
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So: If you decide to avenge your downed wingman and go against 2 enemy planes and you are able to shoot down one of theirs, then, the wingman of your downed victim is now able to decide if he wants to continue fighting 1v1 or disengage and regroup instead, (By this time, though, one of the previously downed planes will probably be near the dogfight zone and able to assist). You decide. Try some practice matches before you play an official match to get familiar with the rules please Start messaging your rivals to schedule your matches, you have 11 days but dont wait until the last days please |
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In our match we played last night. U2711AZ chose to dodge and manuvere while Nineinchdaddy returned from spawning. I chose to run & disengage back to my spawn each time xtomisx spawned. As the planes are quite equal in speed you can quite easily retreat without being caught and without any cease fire rules, the chaser quickly realises he will be flying into a trap and suprise attack from the spawning enemy plane, and turns back. both tactics worked ok and almost the whole game we were all flying together. |
sorry i had to be out of town this weekend. I will be available thurs, fri and sat this week ...anytime that is needed to get matches in.
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The Aaayyy? Team (Edal this needs the word team in the name, injoke on the A Team tv show, you see ;) ) Bobbysockser & EvangelusE Devils Wing (formaly known as "The unknowns") Bucketmanroc & Sergius86d The other team is called "TEAM KILLalot" as a certain pilot has a reputation for TKing And "The No Names" should be called "The No Mics" lol I apologise to you Edal for this is something we should have finalised earlier than this. |
Calling the Nameless Ghost and the Few51;
May we use this forum to schedule our battles? It might be the best platform for a runway as we hardly run into each other on PSN anymore. Sadly enough. That goes for my wingcommander as well... |
if it agreeable with Sergius and EvangelusE, I have no problems with it. I know Sergius flys more with bucket and is probably more familiar and comfortable with him. let me know...
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Gonna have to hook up with you guys sometime to get our group one battles sorted, guess we'll have to agree some sort of timetable. :-P |
Team names
Thanks Robotic Pope for letting me know, I have updated the team names.
Also, Congratulations on your first victory team Yoohoo!! Would you be able to give a little feedback? Any problems with the rules? Exciting moments? Did the match feel like a real 2v2 coordinated dogfight or was it more like a 4 player, two team, chaos? Thanks in advance. I have updated your results, however, I dont know why but sometimes photobucket takes a while to update them. |
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As for teamwork I have to say xtomisx was the main reason I didn't die. We work together very well. I wish I could have saved him a couple of times to repay him, but The No Mics are very skilled flyers too, and although i'm sure they were at a disadvantage not having communication, you wouldn't have known seeing how well they flew together. We didn't use any special disengage rules (like I mentioned here http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=164) it worked out fine. Oh and funny story- It was our second attempt at playing the match. First attempt lasted 5 minutes. It took a kill by xtomisx for us to realise we had the wrong teammates :oops: we had forgoten to select our teams :lol: Lastly, We where thinking of doing our other game against TEAM KILLalot last night. We were all in the lobby, but I have a nasty cold and really didn't feel like doing a competetative game. So I want to apologise to the others for that :( |
Do any of you guys know where I can find the altimeter on the Yaks? :)
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its right beside the compass.... :grin: @ work right now and this is what i found on the net. cant remember what the one in the game looks like at the moment...
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If you want a practice game or two, before we can contact him (goes for anyone fighting the Few51) then let me know when you'll be on for a practice match if you want? |
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@ Wg cdr Reaper; I'll propably be on every evening this week. Kav is on late usually. Weekend is good for the matches. Let's see what happens, but we're pretty much okay to do the battles.
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I apologise for the lateness of this decision but I am going to drop out of the tournament. I rarely use the Xbox these days and spend most of my time on Cliffs of Dover MP, so considering selling it and all the accessories.
It wouldn't be fair on the regulars regards the tournament if I start then drop out after a couple of matches. I will sign on and speak to you all at some point and apologise in person. |
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No problem E, you do what you have to ...i have been there myself. boys, I will catch the next tourney... enjoy.
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OMG, its nothing to do with changing teams Pope. I am happy to team up with anyone but it would also be reasonable for my team mate to have someone who logs on a bit more regularly than I do these days for some practice sessions. I will talk to you and the other guys on - line and explain the situation in more depth.
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to MAMA team and BIRDS OF STEEL team ,IKURRINA and me ,the french team ,will be free to play our matchs ,saturday night november 5th.(until late in the night,french time) |
@Nameless Ghosts; Sunday evening/night after 8 pm is okay for our matches.
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Robotic Pope,
Any possibility that you guys can find a replacement to complete the Aaayyy Team? |
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i have been talking to jrhoody and sunday between 7pm - 10pm gmt is a time that suits us both
our teamname is 'Heavens Devils' i will let my flt ldr choose our home map Good luck to all |
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pope, dont do it on my account. i already scheduled other things. dont sweat it. |
Team MAMA matches
Hi all,
Sorry for leaving this for so late. Team MAMA! needs to play team Birds of Steel and the French team until Monday. I have time to do this today and tomorrow. Mage, how about you? French team, if Mage can play today (Saturday) I know you are available after 5pm GMT til late, hopefully we can play today. Team Birds of Steel, how is it with you? Let's work it out, I can be flexible about the time difference, hopefully Mage can be as well. :) MAC |
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I hope we can do this late sunday, about 10 pm gmt or something. |
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I must say i'm quite disapointed in all this. One requirement that Edal asked of me to enable an xbox version of this tournement was to find people I could trust to play this competition in full. It seems I failed at this and am now having to play catch up to find more people to uphold my part of the deal. I want to thank Markyboybassist, Hurricane and the rest of the guys who have played their matches. They have been very enthusiastic and helpfull. |
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yes we will be online this evening,i think to be online at 10:00 pm gmt. no probs teacher for delay ,family life in first! friendly olife san |
Hi Olife,
I'm sorry but didn't hear from Mage yet...perhaps we can try tomorrow? Mage? MAC |
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no probs ,yes maybe this night ,think to be online. |
Sorry guys for being so inactive in this tournament. If we cant make it tonight, I think I'll have to withdraw out of this. I have to go working in another city at wednesday, and at weekend I have to watch how one of my friends is getting chained, poor bastard is getting married.
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Hi Mage,
I'm up for this. Ikkurina, Olife - can you make it tonight? Edal, McKinney - how about you? MAC |
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