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U2711AZ 10-11-2011 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurricane (Post 347537)
for me i found it difficult to use a game pad in sim to look around because you had to push down on the left analog which means you cannot control your throttle at the same time.i know popey uses the directional pad to check around but then you are in third person which would mean your not in cockpit.to me flying with a game pad is a disadvantage(you wouldnt know it the way pope plays though).I think cockpit should be optional for xbox.

I even can't play on sim mode using a pad, only Pope can but here's the trick: he is the closest person to God so he get all his holy help :grin:

FOZ_1983 10-11-2011 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 347513)
Are you sure it's not Dead Island, Gears of War 3 and Fifa 12 that get in the way? :-P

I only played them until about 11pm. I work at 5AM, and by the time you guys are all online its just far to late for me. I did join you the other night, but it sounded a bit to rowdy so i promptly left haha.

vdomini 10-11-2011 02:44 PM

Sounds like great fun!!!

Best wishes might the best win :o

markyboyacebassist 10-11-2011 09:21 PM

Xbox 360 gamertag
 
Sgt Madmax Fury would like to take part in this competition.:cool:
Thank you.

edal86 10-11-2011 09:27 PM

Please, if you wish to join then add your psn/gamertag along with your post, dont just type "I would like to join", thank you.

We will be using the YAK and its variants. Poll time is over.

Please begin figuring out teams.

Keep joining the tournament, this tournament wont last long so it wont really require much of your time, a max of 3 back to back 20 minute matches (in case that you make it to the final or 3rd place match) spread throughout 3-4 weeks

edal86 10-11-2011 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markyboyacebassist (Post 347927)
Sgt Madmax Fury would like to take part in this competition.:cool:
Thank you.

is your gamertag SgtMadmaxFury (like this or with spaces)?

P-51 10-11-2011 09:35 PM

Oooh Yak's :D

Well, who on the PS3 side wants me as a teammate? :D

edal86 10-11-2011 10:00 PM

To All,

Now that we know that the YAK will be this tournament's bird, I would like to introduce another rule (this will also be updated to the rules on the first post).

The Team that is playing on a HOME MAP (the host team) will not only have the advantage of flying on their favorite map and favorite side of the map, but also they will be able to have first pick on what variant of the YAK they will fly. Both (home map) players must fly the same type of YAK. The VISITOR TEAM (away team) will then have to fly any of the other 2 YAKs (visitor team has the option of flying the same type of YAK or a combination of the 2 YAKs that the Home Team did not choose).



Example:
Host (home) team= player X1 & player X2
Away (visitor) team = player Y1 & player Y2

Host team's MAP = Dover (favorite side = B)
Host team's YAK = YAK-3


Pre-Game Launch (lobby) should look like this:

MAP: Dover
(Side A) (4 possibilites)

1. player Y1 (YAK-1), player Y2 (YAK-1)
2. player Y1 (YAK-9), player Y2 (YAK-9)
3. player Y1 (YAK-1), player Y2 (YAK-9)
4. player Y1 (YAK-9), player Y2 (YAK-1)

(Side B) (1 possibility)
1. player X1 (YAK-3), player X2 (YAK-3)

(REMEMBER ALL TEAMS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY AS HOST (HOME TEAM) ONCE PER RIVAL)

Sorry for long explanation I want it to be clear :)

McQ59 10-11-2011 10:53 PM

Cool Edal. Kav and I make a squad. We'll get back to you with the intel on home-map and flight-lead.

Robotic Pope 10-12-2011 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurricane (Post 347537)
for me i found it difficult to use a game pad in sim to look around because you had to push down on the left analog which means you cannot control your throttle at the same time.i know popey uses the directional pad to check around but then you are in third person which would mean your not in cockpit.to me flying with a game pad is a disadvantage(you wouldnt know it the way pope plays though).I think cockpit should be optional for xbox.

I can easily do without the d pad view bucket, especialy in the yaks with their great rear view. As this is cockpit only that is what i'd be doing. But I know I can't fight without knowing the position of my throttle. I always have to keep an eye on the throttle percentage in the hud also because while looking around you can inadvertantly shut the throttle especialy when looking backwards because for an instant you weren't pushing down hard enough on the stick button. Also the engine note does not change with the throttle so you cannot rely on that either.

markyboyacebassist 10-13-2011 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 347931)
is your gamertag SgtMadmaxFury (like this or with spaces)?

With spaces my friend!

Panzergranate 10-13-2011 08:22 PM

Count me in.
 
You can count me in as well. (Popes been nagging me about taking part anyway!!)

My vote is for the Yaks.

Despite being not hard to fly or control, even with the settings at 100%, the I-16's do have annoying engine foibles, etc. and forgetting these in the heat of battle gives enough problems alone.

Robotic Pope 10-13-2011 11:15 PM

Approved
GT: Sgt Madmax Fury
GT: Panzergranate

edal86 10-14-2011 05:45 AM

XBOX players,
2 more approved players and we are ready to go.

PS3,
Come on comrades lets get those 16 players, 4 more approved players to go.

If you are already an approved player then please begin to team up with another approved player. I will need for you to post both player's IDs and the name of your team along with your HOME MAP (favorite map) only.

Thank you

Robotic Pope 10-16-2011 01:09 AM

Edal, Sgt Madmax has asked me to enter GT: Jimjamjaro into the xbox competition on his behalf as he doesn't have access to this forum. He would be Madmax's wingman, so Madmax would have full management & results duty for that team. I approve this.

markyboyacebassist 10-16-2011 07:00 PM

Cheers!
 
Thank you Mr Pope!

edal86 10-16-2011 11:39 PM

Thank you pope,

we need more teams please, dont forget to name your HOME MAP


TEAMS so far:

PS3: mcq59 + kavorland - MAP: ?

XBOX: Sgt Madmax Fury + Jimjamjaro - MAP: ?

Important: We need 1 more player, both for PS3 and XBOX, in order to be able to run this Tournament (minimum of 12 players), Friday October 21st will be the last day to enlist, also teams must be ready by this day along with their favorite MAP, if you are not on a team then you will be assigned a random team member, (PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO SELECT YOUR OWN TEAM MEMBER) Tournament will begin on Monday October 24.

If we dont manage to gather 16 players then we will only take 12 players. Tournament will have to change to a Group Stage + Eliminatory Stage style, with 2 groups containing 3 teams each, each team will then play against the other 2 teams on their group twice (HOME and AWAY), then there will only be a FINAL and a MATCH FOR 3RD PlACE, the FINAL will be a fight between the two 1st place teams from each group, the MATCH FOR 3RD PLACE will be fought between the two 2nd place teams from each group.


markyboyacebassist 10-17-2011 02:40 PM

Home map
 
XBOX: Sgt Madmax Fury + Jimjamjaro - MAP: BRITAIN.

Team name, 666th Armageddon.

KAV 10-17-2011 05:22 PM

Player stats:
 
I am looking forward to this tournament, and to try to battle you guys in the skies again.

This is my player info:

Homemap: Britain
Posistion: Wingleader
Wingman: McQ59
Prefered plane: Yak 3
Prefered days: Monday to Thursday
Prefered time: 10 pm and out ECT+1
Connection ratio: Down 4 mbit/sec - up 0,4 mbit/sec
PSN id: kavorland

COUNT VON BEK 10-18-2011 11:44 AM

Hi guys I would love to play in the XBOX tourney.

Yes Pope I finally got round to joining this forum!!!

See you soon.

PS my gamer tag is the same as this one.

markyboyacebassist 10-18-2011 01:52 PM

Welcome!
 
Good to see you on the forum Count, lots of good info here! :cool:

markyboyacebassist 10-20-2011 09:41 AM

Tournament starts 23 Oct?
 
It's Thursday 20th Oct, 3 days to go, is everything going to schedule?

Robotic Pope 10-20-2011 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markyboyacebassist (Post 351796)
It's Thursday 20th Oct, 3 days to go, is everything going to schedule?

It does seem like we need an extra week maybe?

Anyway, these are the suggested teams on xbox, leader first. Let me know if this isn't ok for anyone.

Sgt Madmax fury & Jimjamjaro [confirmed]
Robotic Pope & xtomisx [confirmed]
Count von bek & Panzergranate [confirmed]
Bucketmanroc & EvangelusE
Bobbysockser & Sergius186
U2117AZ & Nineinchdaddy69

I'd like to go with these 12 players, I don't think we can get 3 more in time, and as I said before I have never seen Redman before on Xbox IL2 so I suggest he concentrate on the PS3 side.

edal86 10-20-2011 01:25 PM

Beautiful. This made my day robotic pope, thank you for showing so much interest in making this work.

Xbox players are now complete

Yes, I also think its a good idea to delay the tournament a little, Please use the extra days to get confortable with your wingman.

PS3, what is going on with teams? We also need 1 more player. I will team up with whoever ends up with no team mate at the end

Sorry, I just woke up and I'm typing this on my phone, I will update teams and other things later at night, it's currently 7am for me, keep posting, I have not disappeared just a bit busy, thanks again pope

edal86 10-20-2011 01:45 PM

Ok, so instead of October 23, the tournament will begin Friday October 28, this is final. No more changes.

We will have a date for the live randomizing of the tournament groups soon

Robotic pope,
Can you please check with team leaders if they all have any sort of device to take photos with? (camera, phone) this is how they will have to report results, as soon as I have a confirmation I will contact them via e-mail

Robotic Pope 10-20-2011 02:28 PM

Thanks Edal, its the least I can do. The camera results thing maybe a problem for some, I will ask everyone though. Although I think we will probably all be flying our matches at the same times so I can probably referee any match that needs a camera. Also I do trust all these chaps so as a last resort i'm sure a writen record of a match from both leaders will be acurate.

P-51 10-20-2011 02:41 PM

Hi Edal,

I *think* I am with "The Few". This is assuming he is in the GMT timezone.
I have no idea what map we are on, but I have sent him a PM to ask.

bobbysocks 10-20-2011 10:32 PM

that is agreeable with me. sergius i sent you a PM.

markyboyacebassist 10-20-2011 11:02 PM

Disengagement.
 
Panzer,Jimjamjaro,U2711AZ & myself tried a few matches using the tournament rules tonight.
We all seem a little confused on the rule of disengagement.
This must be understood by all involved to ensure a smooth and successfull competition.
:)

hurricane 10-20-2011 11:34 PM

my take on the disengagement rule is that once any one aircraft is eliminated the fighting stops ,you basically rtb until you don't see the enemy on radar anymore .
thats why the rules about having a mic are needed.if that rule is waived i suggest that both sides must form up near there base.in other words if you die you must hang back waiting for a visual of your teammate.that seems to be in the spirit of the rule edal has in there,please correct me if i am wrong.

markyboyacebassist 10-21-2011 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurricane (Post 352131)
my take on the disengagement rule is that once any one aircraft is eliminated the fighting stops ,you basically rtb until you don't see the enemy on radar anymore .
thats why the rules about having a mic are needed.if that rule is waived i suggest that both sides must form up near there base.in other words if you die you must hang back waiting for a visual of your teammate.that seems to be in the spirit of the rule edal has in there,please correct me if i am wrong.


Well explained Bucket, seems straight forward enough, mics do seem to be mandatory I reckon.

hurricane 10-21-2011 12:45 AM

your welcome max,if i am right we can test it out your friday or saturday evening.
when are you are you gonna go sluming with us bobbysocks?

bobbysocks 10-21-2011 02:10 AM

didnt have to go out of town this weekend...so tomorrow. what time GMT? i usually get on like 9ish/ 10ish uk time.

edal86 10-21-2011 07:47 AM

Guys I will be absent for 3 days, will be out of town. For any questions please contact MAC for these following three days, when I return we will do the randomized groups hopefully we will be complete on the PS3.

keep testing the tournament rules and post any feedback (problems that may present), thanks.

PS3,
please find a team mate, thanks

Robotic Pope 10-21-2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurricane (Post 352131)
my take on the disengagement rule is that once any one aircraft is eliminated the fighting stops ,you basically rtb until you don't see the enemy on radar anymore .
thats why the rules about having a mic are needed.if that rule is waived i suggest that both sides must form up near there base.in other words if you die you must hang back waiting for a visual of your teammate.that seems to be in the spirit of the rule edal has in there,please correct me if i am wrong.

We have one team without mics, it shouldn't matter though. If the person spawning loiters at the base waiting for his wingman to return back, and the two on the other side retreat back together until no enemy is visible on map. I don't think we should worry about the method too much, really its only a way of making the 4 planes engage together, as long as that is happening the method doesn't matter.

markyboyacebassist 10-21-2011 11:46 AM

Cool!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbysocks (Post 352152)
didnt have to go out of town this weekend...so tomorrow. what time GMT? i usually get on like 9ish/ 10ish uk time.

Looking forward to flying with/against you again Bobby! :cool:

bobbysocks 10-22-2011 06:32 AM

we tried a few practice games today and it was interesting. only real problem we experienced was on disengagement meeting up with your team mate. a mic is going to be crucial here. but it went well overall.

olife 10-22-2011 10:14 AM

hello

ikkurina and olife for the french team

MACADEMIC 10-22-2011 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olife (Post 352715)
hello

ikkurina and olife for the french team

Okay Olife and Ikkurina, good luck!

Who's your team's leader, and what is your home map?

MAC

MACADEMIC 10-22-2011 10:44 AM

Hello all,

Mage_016 and myself, MACADEMIC, are proud to announce ourselves as team

MAMA!

Team leader: MAC
Home map: Sicily, coast

:)

MAC & Mage
Team MAMA!

P-51 10-22-2011 11:25 AM

Just to keep y'all updated; I haven't heard form The Few (Cep32) in a while and he hasn't responded to my add request.

I want to be sure he can fly when I can.

olife 10-24-2011 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACADEMIC (Post 352722)
Okay Olife and Ikkurina, good luck!

Who's your team's leader, and what is your home map?

MAC

team leader : ikurrina
map : great britain

edal86 10-25-2011 07:25 AM

Hello,

Seems like we are complete now on the PS3 too. Thank you to those who have posted their teams.

Any more problems with disengagement rule? Or anything else?

Xbox,
Would you it be better for all, (pad and flight stick users) to keep the HUD optional?

P-51 10-25-2011 08:05 AM

Edal,

The Few (Cep) contacted me last night, we would like to fly the Dover map :)

McQ59 10-25-2011 09:22 AM

@Edal:

KAV is wingcommander and flightlead for "Jagerving1". Check his previous post and my earlier pm to you.

Thanks :)

McKinneyJD 10-25-2011 02:32 PM

At this point I'd ask to be put on the reserve list in case someone needs a wingman. Happy flying gents!

MACADEMIC 10-25-2011 02:35 PM

Okay JD,

You're hereby confirmed for the tourney! Welcome!

MAC

bobbysocks 10-26-2011 10:01 PM

so did we decide on the rules changes for xbox? we using HUD, minimal HUD, no HUD? anything else of importance?

Robotic Pope 10-26-2011 10:56 PM

Obviously I'd prefer to have the HUD for the throttle percentage. The whole point is to make the flying in the competition as realistic as we can and it isn't at all realistic to have to fly while guessing the throttle position. What is minimal HUD? I thought it was on/off.


I've got some names for some teams.

Bucketmanroc & EvangelusE -- The Aaayyy? Team
Robotic Pope & xtomisx -- Team Yoohoo -- Berlin map
Count von bek & Panzergranate -- Team KILLalot

bobbysocks 10-27-2011 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 354859)
Obviously I'd prefer to have the HUD for the throttle percentage. The whole point is to make the flying in the competition as realistic as we can and it isn't at all realistic to have to fly while guessing the throttle position. What is minimal HUD? I thought it was on/off.

on the us version ( i just double checked ) there is the option for Full, Minimal, or Disabled. never really played min hud so dont know what it does or for what mode ( real, arcade, sim ) it makes a difference....just saw it. with a stick, no HUD works fine for me....but if it F's up guys using the game controller then I would say use it. i dont want to screw someone over...tho i may need it... :grin: . if no one else has an objection....i say use it if you have to.

MACADEMIC 10-27-2011 11:13 AM

Main reason for disallowing HUD on the PS3 was that with the update they've introduced planes at a large distance showing as fat black dots in the sky, which would change into the rendered airplanes at a certain distance. So it's kind of a visiblity enhancer. Second reason for disallowing it was to get people to learn and read the cockpit instruments.

Not sure about the first point on the X360 though.

MAC

grislawskijg52 10-27-2011 12:59 PM

Must withdraw from tourney
 
Regret to withdraw from this tourney. I was unable to secure a wingman. I have not been able to consistently get on the forum to keep up. My main avenue for contact was at work and they have installed so many Baracuda blockers it is impossible. Best of luck to you all. If you see me on and need practice, will be happy to engage on your maps using tourney rules. Warmest WalterNowotny

Robotic Pope 10-27-2011 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACADEMIC (Post 355005)
Main reason for disallowing HUD on the PS3 was that with the update they've introduced planes at a large distance showing as fat black dots in the sky, which would change into the rendered airplanes at a certain distance. So it's kind of a visiblity enhancer. Second reason for disallowing it was to get people to learn and read the cockpit instruments.

Not sure about the first point on the X360 though.

MAC

Ahh so minimal removes the info in the top left corner, disabled removes the black far distance plane dots aswell? Its a shame there isn't an option to disable them indepentantly, I could easily do without the dots, and the great big sodding score display.:mad:

edal86 10-28-2011 08:21 AM

Update!!!!!
 
Teams Complete :)
Some still need to name their team and provide their HOME MAP info, so this is what is going to happen.

1. For the nameless teams, please provide it when you report your results, I will then update your info. I will give you temporary names so please check to see in what group you end up in and vs what team you will play this first week.

2. For HOME MAP, I will check your results, which ever MAP you fly on for your HOME MATCH I will automatically assign that MAP for your team for the rest of the Tournament.


Reporting Results

PS3 - Please remember (both Flight Leaders of a match, only)
* attach screenshot of results and add the following info:
1. Home Team vs Visitor Team (names)
2. Planes used for all players
(read the rules for more info about the selection of planes)


Xbox - Report by sending the following info to Robotic Pope
A. take a photo of the match results and add:
1. Home Team vs Visitor Team (names)
2. Planes used for all players

or

B. Write down and send the following info:
1. Home Team vs Visitor Team (names), include their deaths, and "scored" kills.
2. Planes used for all players
3. Map Used
4. Final Ticket Score, example: 286 - 290


Regarding the Rules: changes

* XBOX - HUD rule is optional
* PS3 - no changes
* Disengagement rule stays as posted originally

* Tournament will now be Group Stage + Eliminatory Stage
+ Win= 3 points, Draw= 1 point, Loss = 0 points.
+ There will be 2 Groups of 3 Teams, the first place of each group will fight for the "Gruesome Twosome" title in the Final
+ Stats will be added: Group Position will depend on the following order: Points, Kills, least amount of Deaths. (remember that your team's kills will be the total amount of deaths of your enemies only, not the computer scored kills)

edal86 10-28-2011 09:11 AM

Teams

PS3 (leader in blue)

1. Jagerving1 (mcQ59 + kavorland)
MAP: Britain

2. MAMA! (Mage_016 + Macademic)
MAP: Sicily, coast

3. French Team (Ikkurina + olife)
MAP: Britain

4. Few 51 (reaper1526 + cep32)
MAP: Britain

5. Nameless Ghosts (themesitor + JRHOODY1)
MAP: unknown

6. Birds of Steel (edal86 + McKinneyJD)
MAP: Sicily, coast


XBOX 360 (leader in green)

1. 666th Armageddon (Sgt Madmax fury & Jimjamjaro)
MAP: Britain

2. Yoohoo (Robotic Pope & xtomisx)
MAP: Berlin

3. KILLalot (Count von bek & Panzergranate)
MAP: unknown

4. The Aaayyy? (Bucketmanroc & EvangelusE)
MAP: unknown

5. The Unknowns (Bobbysockser & Sergius186)

MAP: unknown

6. The No Names (U2117AZ & Nineinchdaddy69)
MAP: unknown


** Groups will be Randomized at 09:45 UTC for PS3, and 09:50 UTC for xbox 10/28/2011

- website RANDOM.ORG will be used to randomized these groups
- all team names will be entered, then they will appear randomized, the first 3 teams will be in Group A, the last 3 teams will be in Group B.
- I will add screenshots
- ID code to bring up pregenerated randomization will be Gruesome Twosome



MATCHES will be posted soon After :)

edal86 10-28-2011 09:37 AM

PS3 Randomized Groups
 
Group A
  1. Jagerving1 (mcQ59 + kavorland)
  2. Nameless Ghosts (themesitor + JRHOODY1)
  3. Few 51 (reaper1526 + cep32)
Group B
  1. MAMA! (Mage_016 + Macademic)
  2. French Team (Ikkurina + olife)
  3. Birds of Steel (edal86 + McKinneyJD)

edal86 10-28-2011 09:40 AM

XBOX 360 Randomized Groups
 
Group A
  1. 666th Armageddon (Sgt Madmax fury & Jimjamjaro)
  2. The Unknowns (Bobbysockser & Sergius186)
  3. The Aaayyy? (Bucketmanroc & EvangelusE)
Group B
  1. Yoohoo (Robotic Pope & xtomisx)
  2. KILLalot (Count von bek & Panzergranate)
  3. The No Names (U2117AZ & Nineinchdaddy69)

edal86 10-28-2011 11:02 AM

Period 1 - matches are ready!
 
The Matches and Groups are ready on the second post of this thread, sorry, I know they are not masterpieces of art, I promise I will make them look better, I must sleep now :)

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...07&postcount=2

Please post any questions or doubts.

You guys have until November 7th to complete the Period 1 matches (11 days). Good Luck!!!

Read rules again if you need too and please check the new UPDATE, above and/or on post #1 of this thread.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...04&postcount=1

edal86 10-28-2011 11:42 AM

Disengagement Rule change
 
Disengagement rule is now optional because it may not always be the most convenient option for the wingmanless pilot, for example if you are on your enemy's six and he is after your wingman and he gets to shoot down your wingman but you now have a clear shot to avenge your partner, the disengagement rule will not allow this and it may create frustration and conflict, that is what I believe. So if we make this optional then the player will have to decide if continues the chase to avenge or disengages and regroups before his target's wingman comes to assist. The signal for wanting to disengage after your wingman is down will be to lower your landing gear and wiggle your wings, if attacked while in this situation please report

U2711AZ 10-28-2011 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 355420)
Disengagement rule is now optional because it may not always be the most convenient option for the wingmanless pilot, for example if you are on your enemy's six and he is after your wingman and he gets to shoot down your wingman but you now have a clear shot to avenge your partner, the disengagement rule will not allow this and it may create frustration and conflict, that is what I believe. So if we make this optional then the player will have to decide if continues the chase to avenge or disengages and regroups before his target's wingman comes to assist. The signal for wanting to disengage after your wingman is down will be to lower your landing gear and wiggle your wings, if attacked while in this situation please report

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Mage_016 10-28-2011 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 355420)
Disengagement rule is now optional because it may not always be the most convenient option for the wingmanless pilot, for example if you are on your enemy's six and he is after your wingman and he gets to shoot down your wingman but you now have a clear shot to avenge your partner, the disengagement rule will not allow this and it may create frustration and conflict, that is what I believe. So if we make this optional then the player will have to decide if continues the chase to avenge or disengages and regroups before his target's wingman comes to assist. The signal for wanting to disengage after your wingman is down will be to lower your landing gear and wiggle your wings, if attacked while in this situation please report

Doesn't this make things much more complicated? I'm against of this whole disengagement rule, but if it is included then it is on and that's it.

U2711AZ 10-28-2011 07:21 PM

To me it's even ok no disengagement at all. As on a real dogfighting. For example If your teammate has been shot down you can always choose to head for recovery or keep fighting 'til he rejoin after respawnig. For sure we better take a decision asap.

edal86 10-28-2011 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mage_016 (Post 355482)
Doesn't this make things much more complicated? I'm against of this whole disengagement rule, but if it is included then it is on and that's it.

Why complicated? As soon as your wingman is shot down you either continue fighting or immediately lower your landing gear, wiggle your wings, and fly towards your Base to regroup with your partner. Obviously, you cant use this to escape every time you feel threatened. Its just for that, and every, immediate moment after you loose your partner.

So: If you decide to avenge your downed wingman and go against 2 enemy planes and you are able to shoot down one of theirs, then, the wingman of your downed victim is now able to decide if he wants to continue fighting 1v1 or disengage and regroup instead, (By this time, though, one of the previously downed planes will probably be near the dogfight zone and able to assist). You decide.

Try some practice matches before you play an official match to get familiar with the rules please
Start messaging your rivals to schedule your matches, you have 11 days but dont wait until the last days please

Robotic Pope 10-29-2011 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U2711AZ (Post 355633)
To me it's even ok no disengagement at all. As on a real dogfighting. For example If your teammate has been shot down you can always choose to head for recovery or keep fighting 'til he rejoin after respawnig. For sure we better take a decision asap.

+1 I Agree.
In our match we played last night. U2711AZ chose to dodge and manuvere while Nineinchdaddy returned from spawning. I chose to run & disengage back to my spawn each time xtomisx spawned. As the planes are quite equal in speed you can quite easily retreat without being caught and without any cease fire rules, the chaser quickly realises he will be flying into a trap and suprise attack from the spawning enemy plane, and turns back. both tactics worked ok and almost the whole game we were all flying together.

bobbysocks 10-30-2011 04:15 PM

sorry i had to be out of town this weekend. I will be available thurs, fri and sat this week ...anytime that is needed to get matches in.

Robotic Pope 10-30-2011 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbysocks (Post 356340)
sorry i had to be out of town this weekend. I will be available thurs, fri and sat this week ...anytime that is needed to get matches in.

Hey Bobby, if its ok with you (and Edal) Bucketmanroc would like to switch places with you in a trade Between "The Aaayyy? Team" and "The unknowns".

The Aaayyy? Team (Edal this needs the word team in the name, injoke on the A Team tv show, you see ;) ) Bobbysockser & EvangelusE

Devils Wing (formaly known as "The unknowns") Bucketmanroc & Sergius86d

The other team is called "TEAM KILLalot" as a certain pilot has a reputation for TKing

And "The No Names" should be called "The No Mics" lol

I apologise to you Edal for this is something we should have finalised earlier than this.

McQ59 10-30-2011 07:23 PM

Calling the Nameless Ghost and the Few51;
May we use this forum to schedule our battles? It might be the best platform for a runway as we hardly run into each other on PSN anymore. Sadly enough. That goes for my wingcommander as well...

bobbysocks 10-30-2011 07:23 PM

if it agreeable with Sergius and EvangelusE, I have no problems with it. I know Sergius flys more with bucket and is probably more familiar and comfortable with him. let me know...

hurricane 10-31-2011 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 356405)
Hey Bobby, if its ok with you (and Edal) Bucketmanroc would like to switch places with you in a trade Between "The Aaayyy? Team" and "The unknowns".

The Aaayyy? Team (Edal this needs the word team in the name, injoke on the A Team tv show, you see ;) ) Bobbysockser & EvangelusE

Devils Wing (formaly known as "The unknowns") Bucketmanroc & Sergius86d

The other team is called "TEAM KILLalot" as a certain pilot has a reputation for TKing

And "The No Names" should be called "The No Mics" lol

I apologise to you Edal for this is something we should have finalised earlier than this.

thanks for asking for the changes pope.I was hoping we could get more matches in this weekend.i lost power for a day because of an early snow storm.maybe this week we can get some in.

Robotic Pope 10-31-2011 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurricane (Post 356502)
thanks for asking for the changes pope.I was hoping we could get more matches in this weekend.i lost power for a day because of an early snow storm.maybe this week we can get some in.

Yeah I wanted to ask you how you were doing what with all that weather. Seems like only a couple of weeks ago you were in that heat wave lol.

markyboyacebassist 10-31-2011 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurricane (Post 356502)
thanks for asking for the changes pope.I was hoping we could get more matches in this weekend.i lost power for a day because of an early snow storm.maybe this week we can get some in.

Hope your not snowed in Mr Bucket!
Gonna have to hook up with you guys sometime to get our group one battles sorted, guess we'll have to agree some sort of timetable. :-P

edal86 10-31-2011 10:18 PM

Team names
 
Thanks Robotic Pope for letting me know, I have updated the team names.

Also, Congratulations on your first victory team Yoohoo!!
Would you be able to give a little feedback? Any problems with the rules? Exciting moments? Did the match feel like a real 2v2 coordinated dogfight or was it more like a 4 player, two team, chaos?
Thanks in advance.

I have updated your results, however, I dont know why but sometimes photobucket takes a while to update them.

Robotic Pope 11-01-2011 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 356906)
Thanks Robotic Pope for letting me know, I have updated the team names.

Also, Congratulations on your first victory team Yoohoo!!
Would you be able to give a little feedback? Any problems with the rules? Exciting moments? Did the match feel like a real 2v2 coordinated dogfight or was it more like a 4 player, two team, chaos?
Thanks in advance.

I have updated your results, however, I dont know why but sometimes photobucket takes a while to update them.

Thanks Edal :grin: . Everything went well in the game, dogfights are very long and can get quite hectic, very difficult to kill a plane that is doing evasives and very easy to suddenly lose them below your gunsight. Kills where more down to damage attrition than a sudden clean kill. U2711AZ was very unlucky on my kill, he flew straight though my gunsite from right to left, I didn't know where he was beforehand and i'm sure he never saw me before his fuel tank went up in flames :( .

As for teamwork I have to say xtomisx was the main reason I didn't die. We work together very well. I wish I could have saved him a couple of times to repay him, but The No Mics are very skilled flyers too, and although i'm sure they were at a disadvantage not having communication, you wouldn't have known seeing how well they flew together.

We didn't use any special disengage rules (like I mentioned here http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=164) it worked out fine.

Oh and funny story- It was our second attempt at playing the match. First attempt lasted 5 minutes. It took a kill by xtomisx for us to realise we had the wrong teammates :oops: we had forgoten to select our teams :lol:


Lastly, We where thinking of doing our other game against TEAM KILLalot last night. We were all in the lobby, but I have a nasty cold and really didn't feel like doing a competetative game. So I want to apologise to the others for that :(

McQ59 11-01-2011 06:03 PM

Do any of you guys know where I can find the altimeter on the Yaks? :)

bobbysocks 11-01-2011 06:35 PM

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its right beside the compass.... :grin: @ work right now and this is what i found on the net. cant remember what the one in the game looks like at the moment...

P-51 11-01-2011 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McQ59 (Post 356413)
Calling the Nameless Ghost and the Few51;
May we use this forum to schedule our battles? It might be the best platform for a runway as we hardly run into each other on PSN anymore. Sadly enough. That goes for my wingcommander as well...

As Wg Cdr, I'd like to say this is probably the best idea. However, it all depends on rallying my officers. He's (unless he doesn't post often and browses instead) not on here much. I haven't been on my PS3 in a while due to work and college so don't know his PSN activity.

If you want a practice game or two, before we can contact him (goes for anyone fighting the Few51) then let me know when you'll be on for a practice match if you want?

McQ59 11-02-2011 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbysocks (Post 357156)
its right beside the compass.... :grin: @ work right now and this is what i found on the net. cant remember what the one in the game looks like at the moment...

Thanks bro. Thought it would be nice to know :)

McQ59 11-02-2011 05:29 AM

@ Wg cdr Reaper; I'll propably be on every evening this week. Kav is on late usually. Weekend is good for the matches. Let's see what happens, but we're pretty much okay to do the battles.

SEE 11-02-2011 11:28 AM

I apologise for the lateness of this decision but I am going to drop out of the tournament. I rarely use the Xbox these days and spend most of my time on Cliffs of Dover MP, so considering selling it and all the accessories.

It wouldn't be fair on the regulars regards the tournament if I start then drop out after a couple of matches. I will sign on and speak to you all at some point and apologise in person.

Robotic Pope 11-02-2011 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEE (Post 357367)
I apologise for the lateness of this decision but I am going to drop out of the tournament. I rarely use the Xbox these days and spend most of my time on Cliffs of Dover MP, so considering selling it and all the accessories.

It wouldn't be fair on the regulars regards the tournament if I start then drop out after a couple of matches. I will sign on and speak to you all at some point and apologise in person.

:shock: :o :cry: wow, Thats a rather large bomb shell Angelo. Its a nasty addiction to CloD you have huh. So you need to sell your 360 to go towards a replica spitfire cockpit for your PC? lol. Come on , its only 20 minutes away from CloD then you can go straight back if you want. Please say if this has anything to do with the changing teams.

bobbysocks 11-02-2011 04:08 PM

No problem E, you do what you have to ...i have been there myself. boys, I will catch the next tourney... enjoy.

SEE 11-02-2011 04:31 PM

OMG, its nothing to do with changing teams Pope. I am happy to team up with anyone but it would also be reasonable for my team mate to have someone who logs on a bit more regularly than I do these days for some practice sessions. I will talk to you and the other guys on - line and explain the situation in more depth.

olife 11-03-2011 11:31 AM

hello guys!

to MAMA team and BIRDS OF STEEL team ,IKURRINA and me ,the french team ,will be free to play our matchs ,saturday night november 5th.(until late in the night,french time)

McQ59 11-03-2011 04:19 PM

@Nameless Ghosts; Sunday evening/night after 8 pm is okay for our matches.

Robotic Pope 11-04-2011 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurricane (Post 357910)
bull shit angelo.you don't tell the forumn first then talk to us later.maybe we aren't flesh and blood freinds but were still freinds .i dont care about you dropping out of the tournament but selling your gear?too many evenings spent shooting the shit .that cant compare to pc gaming.

Bucket, it is probably best to not say anything here, especialy not while the beer is in effect. Wait until we can speak with Angelo,

edal86 11-04-2011 05:16 AM

Robotic Pope,

Any possibility that you guys can find a replacement to complete the Aaayyy Team?

Robotic Pope 11-04-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 357944)
Robotic Pope,

Any possibility that you guys can find a replacement to complete the Aaayyy Team?

Yes we have options if our efforts to convince Angelo back fail.

themeistor1 11-04-2011 02:49 PM

i have been talking to jrhoody and sunday between 7pm - 10pm gmt is a time that suits us both
our teamname is 'Heavens Devils'
i will let my flt ldr choose our home map
Good luck to all

bobbysocks 11-04-2011 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 358076)
Yes we have options if our efforts to convince Angelo back fail.


pope, dont do it on my account. i already scheduled other things. dont sweat it.

MACADEMIC 11-05-2011 09:34 AM

Team MAMA matches
 
Hi all,

Sorry for leaving this for so late.

Team MAMA! needs to play team Birds of Steel and the French team until Monday. I have time to do this today and tomorrow.

Mage, how about you? French team, if Mage can play today (Saturday) I know you are available after 5pm GMT til late, hopefully we can play today.

Team Birds of Steel, how is it with you? Let's work it out, I can be flexible about the time difference, hopefully Mage can be as well.

:)

MAC

JRHOODY1 11-05-2011 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themeistor1 (Post 358077)
i have been talking to jrhoody and sunday between 7pm - 10pm gmt is a time that suits us both
our teamname is 'Heavens Devils'
i will let my flt ldr choose our home map
Good luck to all

ok Heavens Devils and sicily for home map sorry for lateness and goods luck to all it should be great fun

:-x

JRHOODY1 11-05-2011 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McQ59 (Post 357799)
@Nameless Ghosts; Sunday evening/night after 8 pm is okay for our matches.

that's ok with heaven's devils its going to be a great match with you and kav and sorry for not being on the il2 skys lately black ops zombies has been taking up my il2 time so see you guys sunday night

:)

KAV 11-05-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRHOODY1 (Post 358285)
that's ok with heaven's devils its going to be a great match with you and kav and sorry for not being on the il2 skys lately black ops zombies has been taking up my il2 time so see you guys sunday night

:)

Greetings guys.
I hope we can do this late sunday, about 10 pm gmt or something.

Robotic Pope 11-05-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbysocks (Post 358091)
pope, dont do it on my account. i already scheduled other things. dont sweat it.

Bobby are you saying you are dropping out aswell??? It isn't just you, other teams need someone to play to complete the rounds.

I must say i'm quite disapointed in all this. One requirement that Edal asked of me to enable an xbox version of this tournement was to find people I could trust to play this competition in full. It seems I failed at this and am now having to play catch up to find more people to uphold my part of the deal.

I want to thank Markyboybassist, Hurricane and the rest of the guys who have played their matches. They have been very enthusiastic and helpfull.

olife 11-05-2011 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACADEMIC (Post 358272)
Hi all,

Sorry for leaving this for so late.

Team MAMA! needs to play team Birds of Steel and the French team until Monday. I have time to do this today and tomorrow.

Mage, how about you? French team, if Mage can play today (Saturday) I know you are available after 5pm GMT til late, hopefully we can play today.

Team Birds of Steel, how is it with you? Let's work it out, I can be flexible about the time difference, hopefully Mage can be as well.

:)

MAC

hey MAMA GUYS!

yes we will be online this evening,i think to be online at 10:00 pm gmt.
no probs teacher for delay ,family life in first!

friendly
olife san

MACADEMIC 11-05-2011 08:24 PM

Hi Olife,

I'm sorry but didn't hear from Mage yet...perhaps we can try tomorrow?

Mage?

MAC

bobbysocks 11-05-2011 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 358372)
Bobby are you saying you are dropping out aswell??? It isn't just you, other teams need someone to play to complete the rounds.

I must say i'm quite disapointed in all this. One requirement that Edal asked of me to enable an xbox version of this tournement was to find people I could trust to play this competition in full. It seems I failed at this and am now having to play catch up to find more people to uphold my part of the deal.

I want to thank Markyboybassist, Hurricane and the rest of the guys who have played their matches. They have been very enthusiastic and helpfull.

its tpough to fly when you dont have a partner.....and at this stage of the game to throw a team together .we' be behind the 8 ball. the best i could do at this point, pope, is to fill in for someone if they need a wing man for a match ( if i am home ). plus, the tourney was supposed to start in early Oct. & i had every weekend freed up that month except the last one. now its Nov and i have a couple trips planned. so now i am kinda screwed timewise. with 5 team in a round robin elimination set up...you guys should do fine. i would have liked to participate but its all ok...

olife 11-06-2011 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACADEMIC (Post 358465)
Hi Olife,

I'm sorry but didn't hear from Mage yet...perhaps we can try tomorrow?

Mage?

MAC

hi teacher!

no probs ,yes maybe this night ,think to be online.

Mage_016 11-08-2011 04:27 AM

Sorry guys for being so inactive in this tournament. If we cant make it tonight, I think I'll have to withdraw out of this. I have to go working in another city at wednesday, and at weekend I have to watch how one of my friends is getting chained, poor bastard is getting married.

MACADEMIC 11-08-2011 09:07 AM

Hi Mage,

I'm up for this.

Ikkurina, Olife - can you make it tonight?

Edal, McKinney - how about you?

MAC


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