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etzi 07-20-2011 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 311992)
What about them? They don't provide updates on patches. Ask them when the next patch is coming and they ignore you.

That's the stupidest thing I've heard today! If you have no idea of something, then keep your unqualified statements for you!

Thanks

Ataros 07-20-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by adonys (Post 312020)
Most of us perfectly understand that accurate ETA are not posible.

What most of us want is this:

- a weekely update regarding what's in the work, and the actual progress made
- when they figure out they are close to release a patch, and can give an ETA, just say it to us, together with the expected content for that patch

I think this would work for you and for me but we are not the most negative thread starters here. Remember most trolls forgot that luthier wrote "we will try to ..." and accused him in lying about more communication and hiring a manger several times. I think he did not like it. I would not.

Any ETA or anything luthier posts would be used against him if trolls are not banned.

David Hayward 07-20-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by etzi (Post 312034)
That's the stupidest thing I've heard today! If you have no idea of something, then keep your unqualified statements for you!

Thanks

Prove me wrong. Go to the RoF forum and ask them when the next update is coming. Or ask when the next aircraft is going to be released. Or when the flight models are going to be reviewed. Then let us know what kind of response you get.

Pudfark 07-20-2011 04:00 PM

No Message is a Message

Obviously, some folks here still believe in the Easter Bunny.
They take much delight...In making excuses for the Bunny.

"The squeaky wheel gets the grease"

Opitz 07-20-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 312039)
Prove me wrong. Go to the RoF forum and ask them when the next update is coming. Or ask when the next aircraft is going to be released. Or when the flight models are going to be reviewed. Then let us know what kind of response you get.

flight model reviewed? why? :D Is it too hard for you to fly straight with it?

David Hayward 07-20-2011 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Opitz (Post 312051)
flight model reviewed? why? :D Is it too hard for you to fly straight with it?

Flight model review to stop all the complaining about the Super Camel, the Dr1 going too fast, the SE5 glass engine, the Pup climbing too fast, the DVa being too slow, the N17 being a pig, etc, etc, etc...

klem 07-20-2011 04:25 PM

adonys, etc, you are wasting your time.

Luthier has spoken at last - yesterday in his US release announcement. He has no communications 'resource' and clearly has no intention of spending 15 minutes on it himself. As infuriating and offensive as that may be, we're stuck with it. There's nothing we can do.

However, this is a direct matter between us and the manufacturer of a defective product and this, their forum, seems to be a reasonable way to contact them, especially as they say they are always looking at it for our feedback. If the self-righteous, self-appointed spokesmen for Luthier stopped poking their noses into what is a direct request from some of us to Luthier these threads would be a lot shorter. And if Luthier put finger to keyboard once a week there would be far fewer of them.

Our CoD software is effectively under repair and ours has been a legitimate request for progress information. The whining is coming from those who for some reason don't want to hear it and are happy to roll over and lay in the dark whilst goading the rest of us. Or perhaps it just makes them feel important. Can they really not be interested in when the major bugs will be fixed?

whatnot 07-20-2011 04:32 PM

Wow, this forum never seizes to amaze me! This thread was the wackiest piece of communication I've seen so far in this nuthouse! The subject alone made me giggle: "One explanation and we will stop whining".. like that would ever happen!

There is not enough terabytes on all the servers connected to internet to store the explanations and updates needed to stop whining on the banana forums!

I used to be a critique towards the poor communication practises from the devs. But after seeing the group of nutjobs I would need to associate myself with I decided to change camp: now I actually hope there won't be any update on anything anymore just to pour some salt on the wounds of these crybabies and see how much energy they can actually waste on repeating the same message.

Some superstar already started to list 'fanbois' in his tag line. I think we need two forums: one for whiners and haters, one for fanbois. Otherwise there will soon be an virtual explosion around here. :grin:

Opitz 07-20-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 312056)
Flight model review to stop all the complaining about the Super Camel, the Dr1 going too fast, the SE5 glass engine, the Pup climbing too fast, the DVa being too slow, the N17 being a pig, etc, etc, etc...

Once all respectful and reasonable resources will be collected, as said, this will probably happen. The difference here is this: in IL2 dimension it was Oleg and his "resources" who said - this is climb rate, turn rate of Bf109, we have it like that in Moscow museum. In ROF anyone can provide resources and won't be ignored.

David Hayward 07-20-2011 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Opitz (Post 312092)
Once all respectful and reasonable resources will be collected, as said, this will probably happen.

NO, it doesn't happen. The only way anyone knows an update is coming is when they announce that servers will be down for maintenance. They don't give ETAs. They don't give updates. They don't hold anyone's hand.

Oh, and any whining like you're doing here would be wiped off their messageboard in about 2 minutes.

Opitz 07-20-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 312104)
NO, it doesn't happen. The only way anyone knows an update is coming is when they announce that servers will be down for maintenance. They don't give ETAs. They don't give updates. They don't hold anyone's hand.

Oh, and any whining like you're doing here would be wiped off their messageboard in about 2 minutes.

man, you sounds so mean... :D

David Hayward 07-20-2011 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Opitz (Post 312092)
In ROF anyone can provide resources and won't be ignored.

Yes, they will be ignored. Proof of the SE5 glass engine and the incorrect Pup climb rate were provided over a year ago. Nothing has changed.

robtek 07-20-2011 04:57 PM

I've never thought that i would be proud to be on a ignore-list! :D :D :D

Opitz 07-20-2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 312109)
Yes, they will be ignored. Proof of the SE5 glass engine and the incorrect Pup climb rate were provided over a year ago. Nothing has changed.

Who the TUCK cares about your glass SE5 engine? Are you sick? I don't care about it, not even here... You need glass engine, or don't, better or worse climb rate of Pup, or in other way so it s*cks so hard, even more than KLOD, I got your message. I don't know maybe Viks shot you bambilion times in a row, or Jason sent you to hell via PM... I DONT CARE...

robtek 07-20-2011 05:13 PM

Has he gone nuts now?

Chivas 07-20-2011 05:32 PM

Exactly why are we so needy to require weekly updates. Not that much gets done in a week. If it did the developers could easily complete a flight sim in a year. Its all unbelievably childish behavior.

I agree we should all be pissed at the condition of the sim, but we should have gotten over that months ago. There is no need to spam the forums with our disappointment, we get it, the developer gets it. Your only driving away potential customers that may help the developer and ourselves get the sim we all want. Todays combat flight sims are far more complex than yesterdays, and if there are any setbacks, its not going to get done before the budget runs out. The developer has two choices to release whats done and hope there is enough support to finish the sim or can it. I don't believe for minute the developers had more time and money to finish the project and just decided to screw us over.

David Hayward 07-20-2011 05:34 PM

Apparently the lack of updates has cause Opitz to lose his mind.

THIS POST HAS BEEN REPORTED

Opitz 07-20-2011 05:41 PM

Repoooorted!! Both of you!

Opitz 07-20-2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 312151)
Apparently the lack of updates has cause Opitz to lose his mind.

Can you elaborate the topic of glass engine in SE5 in context of the current discussion? Thank you, mean boy...

Corto 07-20-2011 05:52 PM

This thread describes the state of this simulation IMHO very good.

just sad 1C!!!

Opitz 07-20-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Corto (Post 312162)
This thread describes the state of this simulation IMHO very good.

just sad 1C!!!

Exactly my point. All the time...

David Hayward 07-20-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Opitz (Post 312156)
Can you elaborate the topic of glass engine in SE5 in context of the current discussion? Thank you, mean boy...

I'd rather see if you're bright enough to figure it out on your own.

Opitz 07-20-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 312169)
I'd rather see if you're bright enough to figure it out on your own.

:rolleyes: and this is the happy customer of CLOD .... hell, yes! I want to be member of community of such happy customers!

David Hayward 07-20-2011 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Opitz (Post 312171)
:rolleyes: and this is the happy customer of CLOD .... hell, yes! I want to be member of community of such happy customers!

:rolleyes:


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