Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 300307)

Just had a very small test and will keep flying during the night to see if there's any gameplay-issue improvements (Ju88 gyrocompass, bomb release joystick buttons working from bombardier's seat, etc).

I got my first launcher.exe crash today but i fixed it simply by restarting the sim, it plays the same as before (smooth on mostly medium settings on my 2 year old PC:i7 920, Ati 4890 1GB and 3GB of RAM, win7 64 bit) and everything looks good in regards to FPS, i even bumped one of my low settings to medium.



I also had to get the new .ini files (i didn't do it in the previous patch) that do away with a lot of redundant fields. I prefer to get everything in a working order first so i can actually test stuff, instead of having preventable errors give me "false alarms". There is by now a standard routine i do and every patch has been an improvement for me.

First, how to get the new .ini files (the configuration files). If you have only recently downloaded your copy from Steam you probably don't need to do this, i had mine installed early though so i had to change them:

1) Launch the sim, go to controls and select "save as", then tell it to save an .ini file somewhere you can easily find it. I had actually done this a long time ago, saving a "mycontrols.ini" file in my documents folder.

2) Go to documents\1c softclub folder and move the files conf.ini, confs.ini, confuser.ini to a backup folder.

3) Do the same for the files of the same name in steam\steamapps\common\IL-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover, moving them to their own backup folder.

4) Run the steam file verification tool . This will spot you are missing the .ini files (since you moved them to another location) and download the new ones. I have opened and compared the old and new files and their structure is different, so i can confirm this will give you the new files without having to mess with steam cloud settings, just keep the cloud thing off altogether.

5) Probably all your settings have now been reset. Go to controls and load the .ini file containing your previously saved control bindings, then click on the apply button. In my case it happened to keep them stored anyway. My realism settings and graphics options had also been reset so i had to reselect them and i think my transparent on-screen windows also changed so i'll have to customize them again. All in all it's less than 5 minutes of work for a cleaner, leaner config file structure so it's worth it.

I don't know if all this affects single-player career progress but i think it doesn't: i accidentally skipped a mission once and i manually edited another file to revert back to the previous "step" in the campaign but it was a completely different file, so i don't think campaign progress has been affected.

6) EXIT THE SIM. This is probably why i got a launcher crash the first time around (i had just applied the beta patch too, further complicating things) i didn't exit after changing graphics options and tried to fly a mission right away. Next time i just changed settings, restarted the sim and all was fine. It's generally a good habit to restart the sim when changing graphics options.


To get the beta patch up and running:

1) Assuming you have up to date .ini files keep reading, otherwise follow the above routine first.

2) Even if you have current .ini files, make sure you are as close to a stock installation as possible. I run with no mods (i am waiting for the SDK first) so it's relatively easy. I just backup anything i might want to keep or fear i might lose (mainly my controls settings), then run the Steam file verification tool.

3) Extract the beta patch file into the main game folder (steam\steamapps\common\IL-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover) and let it over-write anything it asks you to.

4) Go to documents\1c softclub\cache, select everything under that folder and delete it. This forces the sim to rebuild the shader cache and will prevent problems with graphic glitches and/or FPS that may be caused by running a newer version with cached shaders of a previous version.

Please do this before claiming visual bugs, reduced performance, etc, as it helps A LOT: i've never had degraded performance ever, every new patch is smoother than the last and i'm running a two year old PC.

This cache clean-up happens automatically when you install a live, official patch from Steam but i'm not sure if it happens with beta patches, so i do it manually just to be sure.

5) Start flying :-P


When the patch goes live on Steam:
1) Either revert to the previous version by using the file verification tool, or just patch on top of the beta one.

2) Clear your cache

3) Go flying :cool:


I hope it helps some of the people having problems, it's been immensely helpful for me so i thought i'd pass it on.

Important Edit: Whatever you can test OFFLINE, do so. It's perfectly possible to join a server running a previous version when you are running a newer version beta patch and this will give you all sorts of glitches. You might be able to join but that doesn't mean the two versions are always compatible with each other. Luthier himself said so in one of the previous updates. So, test the aircraft behavior offline and when you go online to test multiplayer specific issues, make sure the server is also running the same version as you are.

Bug reports from multiplayer are pretty much worthless if the server and client are not running the same version. It's also why i don't go online yet, i spend most of my time not flying/playing the sim but testing, bug-hunting and compiling a FAQ for when the US release happens to help get people up to speed fast, so i don't want to have all kinds of "false alarms" caused by incompatible versions and/or mods when trying to see what works, what doesn't and how i can work around any remaining issues.

Originally Posted by jamesdietz (Post 300340)

Steam didn't seem to install this ...so I did it manually...Didn't seem to hurt anything , but didn't notice any great improvements either..Maybe it will take more than one flight?

Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 300300)

i dont want to complain, because this patch did some improvements, like the prop pitch of the 109.
though water stripes in land and opposite are still present.

but i really would like to have the performance the game had before the last official patch.
my framerates dropped from about 60 to 30....and for that 30fps i had to lower my settings pretty drastically.
also the stutters are still very apparent.and honestly,they seem to be even worse with this beta patch on multiplayer.
i dont know what you changed since the last official patch, but i would really love to see the game performing like it was before.because it ran pretty smooth once upon a time.

Originally Posted by Gollum (Post 300296)

I remember this post but was hoping Stutters, FPS drop, and AA were not considered "minor" when they render the game unplayable. And I don't mean prissy "oh this isn't perfect so I'm not playing" unplayable. I mean, the game doesn't work unplayable.

Thanks for the reply though. I guess I'll be waiting months to play the game again.:(

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 300307)

Just had a very small test and will keep flying during the night to see if there's any gameplay-issue improvements (Ju88 gyrocompass, bomb release joystick buttons working from bombardier's seat, etc).

I got my first launcher.exe crash today but i fixed it simply by restarting the sim, it plays the same as before (smooth on mostly medium settings on my 2 year old PC:i7 920, Ati 4890 1GB and 3GB of RAM, win7 64 bit) and everything looks good in regards to FPS, i even bumped one of my low settings to medium.



I also had to get the new .ini files (i didn't do it in the previous patch) that do away with a lot of redundant fields. I prefer to get everything in a working order first so i can actually test stuff, instead of having preventable errors give me "false alarms". There is by now a standard routine i do and every patch has been an improvement for me.

First, how to get the new .ini files (the configuration files). If you have only recently downloaded your copy from Steam you probably don't need to do this, i had mine installed early though so i had to change them:

1) Launch the sim, go to controls and select "save as", then tell it to save an .ini file somewhere you can easily find it. I had actually done this a long time ago, saving a "mycontrols.ini" file in my documents folder.

2) Go to documents\1c softclub folder and move the files conf.ini, confs.ini, confuser.ini to a backup folder.

3) Do the same for the files of the same name in steam\steamapps\common\IL-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover, moving them to their own backup folder.

4) Run the steam file verification tool . This will spot you are missing the .ini files (since you moved them to another location) and download the new ones. I have opened and compared the old and new files and their structure is different, so i can confirm this will give you the new files without having to mess with steam cloud settings, just keep the cloud thing off altogether.

5) Probably all your settings have now been reset. Go to controls and load the .ini file containing your previously saved control bindings, then click on the apply button. In my case it happened to keep them stored anyway. My realism settings and graphics options had also been reset so i had to reselect them and i think my transparent on-screen windows also changed so i'll have to customize them again. All in all it's less than 5 minutes of work for a cleaner, leaner config file structure so it's worth it.

I don't know if all this affects single-player career progress but i think it doesn't: i accidentally skipped a mission once and i manually edited another file to revert back to the previous "step" in the campaign but it was a completely different file, so i don't think campaign progress has been affected.

6) EXIT THE SIM. This is probably why i got a launcher crash the first time around (i had just applied the beta patch too, further complicating things) i didn't exit after changing graphics options and tried to fly a mission right away. Next time i just changed settings, restarted the sim and all was fine. It's generally a good habit to restart the sim when changing graphics options.


To get the beta patch up and running:

1) Assuming you have up to date .ini files keep reading, otherwise follow the above routine first.

2) Even if you have current .ini files, make sure you are as close to a stock installation as possible. I run with no mods (i am waiting for the SDK first) so it's relatively easy. I just backup anything i might want to keep or fear i might lose (mainly my controls settings), then run the Steam file verification tool.

3) Extract the beta patch file into the main game folder (steam\steamapps\common\IL-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover) and let it over-write anything it asks you to.

4) Go to documents\1c softclub\cache, select everything under that folder and delete it. This forces the sim to rebuild the shader cache and will prevent problems with graphic glitches and/or FPS that may be caused by running a newer version with cached shaders of a previous version.

Please do this before claiming visual bugs, reduced performance, etc, as it helps A LOT: i've never had degraded performance ever, every new patch is smoother than the last and i'm running a two year old PC.

This cache clean-up happens automatically when you install a live, official patch from Steam but i'm not sure if it happens with beta patches, so i do it manually just to be sure.

5) Start flying :-P


When the patch goes live on Steam:
1) Either revert to the previous version by using the file verification tool, or just patch on top of the beta one.

2) Clear your cache

3) Go flying :cool:


I hope it helps some of the people having problems, it's been immensely helpful for me so i thought i'd pass it on.

Important Edit: Whatever you can test OFFLINE, do so. It's perfectly possible to join a server running a previous version when you are running a newer version beta patch and this will give you all sorts of glitches. You might be able to join but that doesn't mean the two versions are always compatible with each other. Luthier himself said so in one of the previous updates. So, test the aircraft behavior offline and when you go online to test multiplayer specific issues, make sure the server is also running the same version as you are.

Bug reports from multiplayer are pretty much worthless if the server and client are not running the same version. It's also why i don't go online yet, i spend most of my time not flying/playing the sim but testing, bug-hunting and compiling a FAQ for when the US release happens to help get people up to speed fast, so i don't want to have all kinds of "false alarms" caused by incompatible versions and/or mods when trying to see what works, what doesn't and how i can work around any remaining issues.

Originally Posted by Zimbower (Post 300331)

BETA tester reporting for duty for only 30 dollar an hour!

Originally Posted by smink1701 (Post 300132)

Anyone seeing the following...

* Various graphical improvements. The distant clouds are finally back - i.e. the flat representations of clouds you saw on beta screenshots with pretty sunlit borders. Finally fixed the landscape stripes bug, etc.
* Improvements to FM and DM and various cockpit systems, as usual - long list there.
* AI improvements, including at least the majority, if not all, of the order system working.
* A new warship!

Originally Posted by Shado (Post 300287)

Well after my previous moan it appears to be the weathering layer thats been fixed affecting the skin shine, which will need some work as far as skinning is concerned, where it really does shine (pun intended) is the bare metal effect is stunning, load up a Hurricane in QMB, whack the weathering right up and take an external look at just behind the spinner, how long before we get a bare metal skin to work with :)

Originally Posted by mungee (Post 300430)

A BIG improvement!

What is VERY IMPORTANT is to delete the contents of the cache folder (documents\1c softclub\cache) before running the new patch - after doing that, the graphic glitches dispappeared, the frame rate INCREASED A LOT and the stuttering REDUCED A LOT.

However I'm still getting BAD STUTTERING WHEN LOOKING STRAIGHT AHEAD IN 'COCKPIT VIEW'!
Looking out to the wings, the stuttering disappears - it's therefore looks like its being affected by the pixels etc relating to the instrument panel and/or rear view mirror! Obviously stuttering in this view is the most bothersome because one can't aim etc.


When looking sideways (to the wings), I get a consistent and smooth 30+fps, whereas when looking straight ahead I get 30+fps dropping to 7fps after every 2 or so seconds (creating the stutter) - hope that helps!?

Other than that, it's a big improvement - thanks, and keep up the good work.

I respectfully suggest that resources get prioritised to the STUTTERING ISSUE - with bad stuttering, the game essentially remains unplayable for me and others who have systems a year or two old.

Originally Posted by mungee (Post 300430)

A BIG improvement!

What is VERY IMPORTANT is to delete the contents of the cache folder (documents\1c softclub\cache) before running the new patch - after doing that, the graphic glitches dispappeared, the frame rate INCREASED A LOT and the stuttering REDUCED A LOT.

However I'm still getting BAD STUTTERING WHEN LOOKING STRAIGHT AHEAD IN 'COCKPIT VIEW'!
Looking out to the wings, the stuttering disappears - it's therefore looks like its being affected by the pixels etc relating to the instrument panel and/or rear view mirror! Obviously stuttering in this view is the most bothersome because one can't aim etc.

When looking sideways (to the wings), I get a consistent and smooth 30+fps, whereas when looking straight ahead I get 30+fps dropping to 7fps after every 2 or so seconds (creating the stutter) - hope that helps!?



Other than that, it's a big improvement - thanks, and keep up the good work.

I respectfully suggest that resources get prioritised to the STUTTERING ISSUE - with bad stuttering, the game essentially remains unplayable for me and others who have systems a year or two old.

Originally Posted by Tiger27 (Post 300403)

Great work BD, I was having problems with the last patch until I cleaned my cache and updated the
ini files.

My main issue is I can't save my control settings while in game, nor load any saved ones, this used to work?

Just a note Luthier has a link to the bug reporting post in is op, might be worth posting this there as well.

Originally Posted by mungee (Post 300430)

However I'm still getting BAD STUTTERING WHEN LOOKING STRAIGHT AHEAD IN 'COCKPIT VIEW'!
Looking out to the wings, the stuttering disappears - it's therefore looks like its being affected by the pixels etc relating to the instrument panel and/or rear view mirror! Obviously stuttering in this view is the most bothersome because one can't aim etc.

When looking sideways (to the wings), I get a consistent and smooth 30+fps, whereas when looking straight ahead I get 30+fps dropping to 7fps after every 2 or so seconds (creating the stutter) - hope that helps!?

Originally Posted by banned (Post 300485)

Ok, I'm going to embarras myself here. I downloaded the patch, which went to my downloads folder. I opened the CoD folder and then dragged and dropped the download into it. It didn't need extracting etc. I can see the download in the list within the CoD folder. I opened the game but the version is still the old one.
I figure I'm doing something wrong. It worries me that people are saying that you 'allow' it to overwrite other files. When I drop it into the CoD folder it doesn't overwrite anything.
Does it sound like I'm doing something wrong?

Originally Posted by IvanK (Post 300481)

That is strange Tiger I am happily loading Control settings and Keyboard assignments from the last version.

Originally Posted by drewpee (Post 300406)

The BF-109 is much nicer to fly. only load outs are no longer working.

Originally Posted by Orpheus (Post 300488)

Your username doesn't exactly invite confidence that this isn't a troll, but if it's not - the patch is a .rar file that needs to be extracted into your existing CloD directory, it won't do anything unless it's extracted.

Move the file somewhere else, open it with your program of choice (WinRar, 7Zip etc) and direct it to extract the files to your CloD folder. It will replace the entire 'Parts' folder, so when prompted, overwrite any older files with the new ones. Then clear your cache (find your 1C folder in documents and delete everything in the 'cache' folder) and ensure you have up-to-date .ini files, as per the post here:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...7&postcount=97

Originally Posted by banned (Post 300498)

Thank you mate. Much appreciated. I suppose I should change my name but couldn't think of anything else. I'm definately not a troll. Old, grey and slightly wrinkly but not a troll. I appreciate you replying to my message very much.
Kind Regards.

Originally Posted by FS~Phat (Post 300532)

I got the patch going and noticed some pretty good improvements. I can now turn textures to original and buildings to very high and unlimited and its smooth 99% of the time and looks like AntiAliasing is also working again.

Still massive problems over london though even with medium for buildings.

Originally Posted by Orpheus (Post 300538)

This confuses me. I've not seen any significant increase in performance whatsoever. The last big increase in performance was the last patch with the new .ini file.

Are those of you reporting big fps increases just now updating to the new ini, or did you have it already?

Originally Posted by BigPickle (Post 300541)

I did a full reinstall not so long back so I have new everything, try it and you might notice an increase, i think the devs are aiming to get the lower end machines running smoothly so the code could be being altered in respect of that.

Originally Posted by addman (Post 300456)

Nice that the weathering slider now functions for single plane flights. The Stuka is still shaking though, please look into this luthier.

Originally Posted by Freycinet (Post 300548)

I realised that the Stuka shaking is because of flying it incorrectly. It happens when the engine isn't treated correctly. RPM's, temps, etc...

Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 300300)

i dont want to complain, because this patch did some improvements, like the prop pitch of the 109.
though water stripes in land and opposite are still present.

but i really would like to have the performance the game had before the last official patch.
my framerates dropped from about 60 to 30....and for that 30fps i had to lower my settings pretty drastically.
also the stutters are still very apparent.and honestly,they seem to be even worse with this beta patch on multiplayer.
i dont know what you changed since the last official patch, but i would really love to see the game performing like it was before.because it ran pretty smooth once upon a time.

Originally Posted by Freycinet (Post 300554)

Hi LCSummers, I saw that you went and checked out my thread and saw Tom's explanations. He's worth his weight in gold for his knowledge! - now we can fly the Stuka the way it was meant. Also, I am amazed at the depth of the engine modelling... Mindblowing, really.

Originally Posted by Freycinet (Post 300554)

Hi LCSummers, I saw that you went and checked out my thread and saw Tom's explanations. He's worth his weight in gold for his knowledge! - now we can fly the Stuka the way it was meant. Also, I am amazed at the depth of the engine modelling... Mindblowing, really.

Originally Posted by Winger (Post 300580)

is the soundbug still there with a clean install or is it gone? Anyone?

Thanks!

Winger

Originally Posted by Ali Fish (Post 300582)

to the best of our knowledge its still there.

my thoughts on the sound issue. other than my sound reducing to crackling mess, ive never had no sound.

BUT ! when i use team speak comms online i do get the sounds going lower in volume ! now i know theres a system in windows 7 that can turn you sound up or down based on microphone levels input. However i do not have mine set up like that. i hate it, but never the less with comms my sound is deminishing. just my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 300595)

S!

Time to wait 6 months or more and then come back so devs have time to fix the issues.

Originally Posted by LcSummers (Post 300551)

Ju87...............

The supercharger pull out about 2500m. If you dont touch them, the engine will be weaker in high altitude, but do not shaking.
.............................

Cheers

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy (Post 300602)

BTW, are the engine temperatures are still set to zero if you change crewposition in a plane ONLINE (!). That makes the Blenheim almost useless in onlineflying :(

Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 300595)

S!

Installed on a fresh latest official patch version of game. No improvement in FPS, still stripes on land near water + green textures on water. Launcher.exe began to crash on me for the first time. First comes a sound like static or distortion and game hangs. Also inconsistent FPS. Ran Black Death and average was 42fps with maximum being 90fps and lowest 14fps. Next run same settings average 32fps, maximum 76fps and lowest 8fps. What gives?

Time to wait 6 months or more and then come back so devs have time to fix the issues.

Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 300595)

S!

Installed on a fresh latest official patch version of game. No improvement in FPS, still stripes on land near water + green textures on water. Launcher.exe began to crash on me for the first time. First comes a sound like static or distortion and game hangs. Also inconsistent FPS. Ran Black Death and average was 42fps with maximum being 90fps and lowest 14fps. Next run same settings average 32fps, maximum 76fps and lowest 8fps. What gives?

Time to wait 6 months or more and then come back so devs have time to fix the issues.

Originally Posted by Phazon (Post 300630)

I've already reported it to ATI and so have several other users. Its not hard to tell who's to blame, considering the amount of graphical artefacts that exist in Cliffs of Dover for all brands and series of cards its pretty obvious who is bloody well at fault here. The other major sims play nice with the ATI cards so Cliffs of Dover is doing itself no favours at all.

The longer the blue stripes bug goes unfixed the longer I wouldn't even remotely consider spending any more money on a future IL-2 title.

Originally Posted by RE77ACTION (Post 300640)

Am I the only one here with performance degradation since the latest beta patch??? I play with almost all settings maxed out. Before the latest patch this was playable in almost all situations (except close above industrial area's). Now it's often a slide show above land and sometimes even above sea with a few planes in dogfight.

I like to know if others have experienced the same, because else, I will do a reinstall of the sim.

Originally Posted by Tiger27 (Post 300402)

You dont list your specs and seem to be having issues that not everyone are getting, it still may be at your end?

Originally Posted by Vengeanze (Post 300649)

Cleared the cache?

I didn't notice an improvement whatsoever. Same same but seems graphics are nicer though but that might be in my head only.

Originally Posted by lelek (Post 300687)

I had a huge FPS hit after this patch, but after checking the GPU clock speeds I noticed they were stuck at 300 Hz. Geting rid of the UBI-logo video splash screen fixed things. I should also mention that this never hapened to me before either this patch or the latest catalyst drivers (11.6 I think).
I suggest to everyone having a FPS drop to check for this.

Originally Posted by lelek (Post 300687)

I had a huge FPS hit after this patch, but after checking the GPU clock speeds I noticed they were stuck at 300 Hz. Geting rid of the UBI-logo video splash screen fixed things. I should also mention that this never hapened to me before either this patch or the latest catalyst drivers (11.6 I think).
I suggest to everyone having a FPS drop to check for this.

Originally Posted by Kankkis (Post 300696)

Looks like Bugisoft logo put your GPU in 2D mode and speed.

What i need delete to get rid of it?

Originally Posted by Ali Fish (Post 300676)

expereinced that loss of sound bug properly today online. when i tried moving mixture it would then crackle and try come back. but then i couldnt replicate it.

Originally Posted by Freycinet (Post 300548)

I realised that the Stuka shaking is because of flying it incorrectly. It happens when the engine isn't treated correctly. RPM's, temps, etc...

Originally Posted by Phazon (Post 300630)

I've already reported it to ATI and so have several other users. Its not hard to tell who's to blame, considering the amount of graphical artefacts that exist in Cliffs of Dover for all brands and series of cards its pretty obvious who is bloody well at fault here. The other major sims play nice with the ATI cards so Cliffs of Dover is doing itself no favours at all.

The longer the blue stripes bug goes unfixed the longer I wouldn't even remotely consider spending any more money on a future IL-2 title.

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 300709)

Strange, because it works fine on other Ati cards like my two year old 4890 or the 5xxx series. I used to get anywhere between 30-60FPS over any kind of terrain with the previous patch and this one probably made it better since it runs fine without me having to disable the Ubi logo splash screen (i'll try it out and see if i gain anything more).

This blue stripes business is most probably an issue between the drivers and the 6xxx series architecture, otherwise we would all get the blue stripes. However, it's only the 6xxx series that gets it, every other Ati card that meets the system requirements doesn't have this problem.

Originally Posted by addman (Post 300710)

Correction, only 69xx series gets the horizon stripes.:)

Originally Posted by mungee (Post 300430)

A BIG improvement!

What is VERY IMPORTANT is to delete the contents of the cache folder (documents\1c softclub\cache) before running the new patch - after doing that, the graphic glitches dispappeared, the frame rate INCREASED A LOT and the stuttering REDUCED A LOT.

However I'm still getting BAD STUTTERING WHEN LOOKING STRAIGHT AHEAD IN 'COCKPIT VIEW'!
Looking out to the wings, the stuttering disappears - it's therefore looks like its being affected by the pixels etc relating to the instrument panel and/or rear view mirror! Obviously stuttering in this view is the most bothersome because one can't aim etc.

When looking sideways (to the wings), I get a consistent and smooth 30+fps, whereas when looking straight ahead I get 30+fps dropping to 7fps after every 2 or so seconds (creating the stutter) - hope that helps!?

Disabling the rearview mirror has sorted my stuttering out. Still some stuttering over built-up areas, so will tune that setting (buildings) done to "medium" (currently on "high").
Much happier now!!!
Other than that, it's a big improvement - thanks, and keep up the good work.

I respectfully suggest that resources get prioritised to the STUTTERING ISSUE - with bad stuttering, the game essentially remains unplayable for me and others who have systems a year or two old.

Originally Posted by Kankkis (Post 300723)

mungee we have both crossfire cards, maybe that is now problematic with mirror?

Originally Posted by Orpheus (Post 300754)

The rear-view mirror fps loss is well documented and not solely related to crossfire cards. That said, when I try to run crossfire it stutters like all hell - I actually get less fps and literally unplayable stutters running xfire, with a single card I get an almost steady 30fps and minimal stutter.

Makes me wonder. I know in the previous retail patch, crossfire was apparently 'fixed', but this certainly isn't my experience. Anyone actually have crossfire working and playing well?

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 300709)

Strange, because it works fine on other Ati cards like my two year old 4890 or the 5xxx series. I used to get anywhere between 30-60FPS over any kind of terrain with the previous patch and this one probably made it better since it runs fine without me having to disable the Ubi logo splash screen (i'll try it out and see if i gain anything more).

This blue stripes business is most probably an issue between the drivers and the 6xxx series architecture, otherwise we would all get the blue stripes. However, it's only the 6xxx series that gets it, every other Ati card that meets the system requirements doesn't have this problem.

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 300709)

Strange, because it works fine on other Ati cards like my two year old 4890 or the 5xxx series. I used to get anywhere between 30-60FPS over any kind of terrain with the previous patch and this one probably made it better since it runs fine without me having to disable the Ubi logo splash screen (i'll try it out and see if i gain anything more).

This blue stripes business is most probably an issue between the drivers and the 6xxx series architecture, otherwise we would all get the blue stripes. However, it's only the 6xxx series that gets it, every other Ati card that meets the system requirements doesn't have this problem.

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 300903)

In other words part of it is 1c's fault, part of it is the fault of GPU manufacturers for ignoring our genre and part of it is the user's fault for going with a hardware configuration that is expected to cause issues for the type of games we like to play due to the reasons described above.

Originally Posted by addman (Post 300707)

Have you ever flown it with CEM online? It flies silky smooth online but offline it doesn't matter if my temps are perfect or where my ATA is at. I just tried offline radiators fully open, not even exceeding 1.0 ATA at take off, still shaking. Try it online yourself and notice the difference.

Originally Posted by Kankkis (Post 300954)

I Can confirm, that UBISOFT intro disabling helps my FPS a LOT, now i get constant 60FPS allmost all settings maxed on Crosscountry mission.

Please Luthier, check that problem, disabling that intro gives me a REAL FPS BOOST.

Originally Posted by jayrc (Post 300970)

how do you disable intro movie, I couldn't see it in the conf.ini? what's it called? thanks

Originally Posted by Rattlehead (Post 300960)

Sorry, but I disagree with this part of your post. No blame can be laid at the user's door at all, since Sli/X-fire is hardly new tech anymore, and besides many people had dual gpu configurations long before Clod saw the light of day. For many, Clod is also not the only game they play.

People shouldn't have to be restricted to certain hardware choices because of software foul-ups.

Originally Posted by Baron (Post 300976)

The thing is, if u want the best and most stable fps, no microstuttering and as problem free gaming experience as possible, any hardware site worth its salt recommends a single powerful card over two lesser ones. Thats just the way it is. Sli and Xfire is by no means perfect, in any game, and thats a fact.

Originally Posted by BigPickle (Post 300979)

Surely this, yet again shows that fullscreen is not fixed, because if removing a 2D animation segment makes the game perform better doesnt that mean the game is having to try to switch from desktop (2D) state to 3D (Game) state when the game is already underway.

Originally Posted by Doc_uk (Post 300981)

Does anybody no what was actually fixed with this 60mb patch?
is there more to come?