Look at what I see on page 2 of the gallery for "World of planes"......

Great. When is the page BoS for consoles?

I see also the Beaufighter in pictures.... :grin:

quoted from site “upgradeable weapons”
This worries me does it mean they upgrade with models or we get upgrade points.:-?

there is a MAC version?????!!! How sweet it is!!!

Yes, it is!!

:)

MAC

I am also very worried about "upgradable" weapons hope this doesn't mean a arcadish get points to upgrade things like accuracy, damage, range ect in my opinion this would ruin the game!

I have no idea how their Free Subscription business model will really work, but I could imagine this would work in a similar way as you can unlock certain weapons and airplanes in BOP, with the difference that once you have reached the experience criteria for unlocking, you will given a YES/NO choice for unlocking in combination with a micropayment of some Game currency which you can stock up on to have a positive balance. I don't have this game but I believe that's how it works with World of Tanks. Can anyone confirm?

So that would mean that the basic game is free, but if you want better/more airplanes/weapons and you have the necessary experience level for them, you'd have to pay for those. I wouldn't mind that, this would keep the devs interested in developing more in game content after initial developement.

MAC

They are charging for the software thats how its subscription free.
I just hope it doesnt become an unrealistic arcade like upgrade system like in blazing angels 2 (yes I have played it and yes it s**t)

Beaufighter
 

Beaufighter with Raaf markings, crap. As of the scenery I hoped for Northern theatre

Surely Birds of Steel will be much like BoP when it comes to weapons etc? Nobody has really complained about them and they work well :D

Who knows eh?

Thanks for the linkthough, i've got it saved to favourites. Can't wait for the BoS site to come up and suprise us like the BoP one did with a new plane added every so often!!

My knowledge of the Beaufighter is limited, but didnt the Finnish only have a few Blenhiems from the RAF, ordered before they sided with the Germans?

The Beaufighter wasnt used by them i don't think?

Then again KAV i could be wrong, its not my field of knowledge :(

Great pic by the way, is it from that site?

No mate, it is a australian Beaufighter

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...icks/81_13.jpg

Japanese ships, tremble :twisted:

You are totally right.
They only had Blenheims, and the bluecircle badge was postwar.
I guess the possibility of having a northerntheatre just got me running.



The Beaufighter picture is from WoP homepage, screenshots.

I love that screen shot. But you what would make it even better? A Mosquito! :cool:

Technically Birds of Prey had "Upgradeable Weapons" in that you could unlock different variants of the planes with more bombs and etc. Hopefully this is just a variation of that where you unlock your loadout options and you can customize your set up accordingly before a match.

I think we are all hoping that.
Btw any news on the BOS website?

News pictures...

http://www.vandal.net/cgi-bin/vinot.pl?n=59476&i=1

And probably news videos soon... with the Gamescon in this weekend.

Very Nice. It would be nice to see something different now though, some cockpits or different planes and location. The Buffalo is such a ugly plane lol. Maybe at the Gamescon thing we see more planes huh?

I hope. Today some websites have a video of Birds of Steel, supposedly from Gamescon, but it is the same that was watched in may.

Any word on the P-38 making it into BoS? I expect to see the F4U Corsair.

no brakes with stick, HUUUGE deadzone with Xbox stick

OK can somebody advise me please.

I currently play BOP using 360 pad but have been thinking of purchasing a flight stick for full experience.
So my questions are.
1. Do I wait for BOS so control issues can be resolved.
2. Will a new flight stick be avaliable with BOS lauch.

1. Your decision. You allready know the cons of the stick in BoP. The pros being better look around control in sim, Throttle and Rudder being available at the same time as looking around, and it being more realistic controls for an aircraft.

2. For xbox? unlikely.

I too use a pad for BoP, but I will probably get an Saitek AV8R -02 for Birds of Steel after some feed back from people and if everything is working right. I'm not going to switch before then 'cos I don't want to break it on BoP before BoS comes out. The AV8R having a reputation for having rather fragile plastic rudder twist. But its so much cheaper than the Saitek cyborg fly 9 which gets faulty wiring, and the second hand only very expensive Hori Ace Edge. So I think the AV8R is the one I will get.

Thanks for the reply, I think I will also wait for BOS to be released before going for flight stick.
How do flight sticks get passed the quality control phase when there is no way to brake, it's not exactly a minor control or is it that BOP's configuration is wrong?

It is the fault of the game, not the flightstick.

for Birds of Steel, i need, and i mean NEED stratigic bombing of germany, just a mission as an escort for B-17s. Also the Lancaster needs to be in there, as well as the Mosquito (if you havent been able to tell that im a sucker for heavy bombers). Also i'd like to see some better graphics and mechanics, like when you crash or when you bail out, but BoP really did a good job with crashing in water so that doesnt really need to be fixed. And some GOOD SERVERS that get patched when needed with some new game types. As for the pacific theater i cant say much other than to say im excited to see what they can do with it, but definatly some sensibly torpedo mechanics. thats about all i want and i REALLY hoping they do good with this game.

Hey gents; chech this rig out :)

http://www.gamereactor.no/grtv/?id=13021

A cpl of minutes with Birds of Steel...

Cool rig but the input seemed laggy. Might just be deadzone. Thought for sure he would be using rudder pedals, but his feet never moved.

I also noticed there was no damage model in this build of the game.

Still the game will be awesome.

StiC

I noticed the same things. The wings showed some damage, but not anywhere close to what BoP had. Plus it never showed the plane crashing/exploding, just cut to a picture of a battleship.

it looks like the seat is fitted with hori controls same as an ace edge .it looks like he is working the rudder switch with his left hand .its a paddle switch at the rear of the throttle.

His flying is pants ... and so is his pants. LOL

Just hyping a bit...

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...rdsofSteel.jpg

It's out for preorder on Amazon.

Nice, very nice :).

Thanks McQ59 :eek:

That's a really nice new box art. I like it.

Downside is that the release date is 31st March instead of the 1st of March, or maybe that is just a more acurate place holder meaning nearer the end of March rather than the begining? I don't mind though, I can wait for perfection.

I just checked,thanks.40$ us.the incentive is a price guarantee.is that a good deal?

Check out the web-site gents!

http://birdsofsteel.com/en/

....and they have started to add a list of flyable aircraft!! They only have the US stuff listed at the moment, but its looking pretty damn sweet: http://birdsofsteel.com/en/game/planes :grin:

Yesss it does, but one big candy is lacking on the list; The P38 Lightning. Hope they will add it.

Also missing the B-17G in the list, but after watching the presentation of 14 min from http://gamingeverything.com/8725/bir...es-of-footage/, I am calm. Will be, as the P-38

I can´t wait for the other lists

Don't know if it's been asked yet but is there any word of a "Wings of Steel" version for PC? I occasionally play Wings of Prey and enjoy it when I'm not in a hardcore Cliffs of Dover type of a mood.

But I must say.. the US plane set looks awesome. Can't wait to see all the others!

You'd have thought due to the fact it's the prominent aircraft on the box it would have been confirmed!!!!
I've had it on pre-order for a couple of months with amazon and have had numerous notification of so-called release date. About the only thing that's concrete from these is that is due next year!!

It's obviously a work in progress because the P-38 and the B-17 are now on the list! Yay!!

For some reason they refer to the targeting of Yamamoto's plane by P-38s as operation Lightning, I always thought it was operation Vengeance? I know it's only a small detail, I just hope there aren't too many other small errors in the final product.

Definately looking forward to this one mates! :D

there is World of Planes which i imagine is the PC version of very simular....

http://www.worldofplanesgame.com/en/


Nice Mustang Mk.1A...just hope it flies as nice as it looks.

I breathe again...

Oh wow! Looks to be quite promising. Will definitely keep an eye open for this. Hopefully there is some sort of a single player element though. At least a "training" area like in WoP, similar to the QMB in 1946. Practice makes perfect after all....

Just to add a bit more hype guys. Cut this from the Konami homepage...


Key Features :

20 historical and lots of fictional missions, spanning 15 world-famous campaigns (including DLC)
Over 100 famous aircraft
Dynamic Online Campaign
Realistic flight environments, weather conditions, time-of-day changes
Enhanced flight controls
Monthly dogfight tournaments and arena game play
Ability to create, edit and share videos of game play

Great find, thanks :)

I hope the highlighted (red) is avaliable on the xbox 360!! PS3 players having the ability to take pics in game was something we the 360 players missed out on.

Its looking like a very promising game i must admit.

Can't wait to jump into it.

hi guys!

first try with bos.


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all the characters are real ,the time of action too ,the only detail which is not right is that : the captain HUMBERD attacked and destroyed a zero in head to head attack and not by an attack in the 6 of the ennemy like in my comic.

friendly
olife

@mcq: droooooool..... ( very very good news! )
@olife: great works!!!

to add what McQ said...here's want amazon posted here in the us:

Product Features
Over 100 real life planes - Dog fight and dive bomb in actual WW2 planes and rain down terror from above. Determine for yourself which plane is the ultimate bird of prey.


Navigate through hundreds missions - Embark on 20 historical missions, hundreds of procedural missions scattered throughout 16 different locations. All are inspired by real life campaigns such as Pearl Harbor, Guadalcanal and the battle of Wake Island.

so 16 maps...cool. like the locations. would be intersting to try to defend pearl...

Pioneering online and multi-player modes for flight sims - Enjoy 4 player co-op or go into the new and unique online ware mode to compete against up to 16 aviators across world. More exciting details to come!

dedicated servers?? and for how much??


Key innovations - The finest details are the most critical in the new physics and damage models. Controlling speed is a direct result of effect manipulation of the ailerons, and rudders.

going to be able to slip/crab and/or "wag your tail" to bleed off speed?? looking forward to see what this means

Fun for all gamers -Multiple levels of realism offer a gameplay experience for gamers of all walks: Simplified, Realistic up to Simulator for the serious flight-sim aficionados.

not calling it arcade...that's interesting. are they trying to shy away from using that word?

Hey Olife San,

Great new comic!

Did you notice that Gaijin has used a very similar comic strip as a background to its new Birds of Steel website?

Have a look below!

Triple Banzai!!!

MAC

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...eelWebsite.jpg

hello teacher!

millions thanks for compliments!

yes i saw it ,maybe we can have this comic, which seems to be very good ,in a complete version ,why not in a collector of birds of steel...it would be great !!!!...

triple banzai!!!!!!!!!!!

friendly
olife san

While flying in a straight line you should be able to expose more or less of your plane fuselage surface toward the front wind direction using rudder and stick, this will create like "an aerodynamic" brake, slowing you down faster.

i try to explain in english:
Example:
stick neutral with rudder on left ( left foot down ) will make the plane "turn on z axis" , so the right wing will go a bit faster then the left wing, and then generate more lift, making the plane also rolling clockwise as a side effect. ( speed is a factor in the lift formula, more speed, more lift ) Normally, to achieve best aerodynamic performance wing ailerons and rudder should be operated progressively together during turns, to avoid the plane to drag or drop the tail... Gliders have a wool string attached outside the canopy just in front of the pilot so
while in turn you can see how the fluids invest the fuselage. Best turn is when the wool string is parallel to the plane flying direction.

you can counter react the plane rolling by moving the stick ( so, left foot down, stick on the right in the example above). This will make the plane flying straight but with the nose pointing left ( if forces are mixed succesfully ), exposing more surface to the front wind, and so, slowing you down.

Skilled pilot might use this technique not only to slow down, if you do not have a good coordination while acting on stick and rudder your flight path will appear clumsy and un coordinated, it takes a while to develop the right "feel".

I have tried this technique in real so i'm looking forward to see how the developer have implemented the physic in the game...i fear like we might need analog controller for rudders also then :-)

But most of all i hope there is a good draw back between simulation and playability in this upcoming game piece!!! :)

Hi McQ59,

Great stuff indeed! This one in particular (at least for me):
“Ability to create, edit and share videos of game play”.
I guess that you are aware that this feature does exist in “APACHE: AIR ASSAULT” game and I like it a lot. It helped me improve my “flying” this incredibly difficult machine i.e. helicopter. If one thinks flying airplanes in sim or realistic mode is difficult, well, think again. Anyway, I think we'll have plenty of stuff to look forward, and undoubtedly there will be many pleasant surprises, perhaps some unpleasant ones too. After all you can't please everybody. Another feature of the game that would be desirable, and is present in the game that's been “heavily” criticized (rightfully so) by some distinguished members of this forum, is the host's ability to set which planes will be used in the game.

Side note to Olife, if you tell me that you are this skillful in making cheese and wine than you are the perfect human being! Awesome work man! Thanks a lot for all those nice posters and calendars. Be careful though, you may put calendar makers out of business :-)

Best regards,

PSN: PlaviKit

vdomini, thanks brother....i am looking forward to seeing how they make this work...or how flight characteristics play out in this game. i have slipped/crabbed in on landings and to make course adjustments against the wind so i do understand how it works. i wasnt clear in what i was trying to say....basically what they meant by airspeed dependent upon controls other than the throttle...what i surmise as being able to slip, etc. what is exciting is to see the developers have begun to really delve into how an actual ac responds to conditions and controls....very, very, promising!

You Welcome!
Is exactly what you say... so it seems like the flying model will take consideration of atmospherical and wind condition too, lovely! That will be great fun if properly tuned :cool: We'll see.... but i still have some doubt about simulating such realism..... Is it worth the effort to simulate some physical forces that you most of the time would be able to feel only if your guts would be sitting in a cockpit? Will it affect game play ? I am positive thinking on it but... we'll see :cool:

If they get this right it will be a real acheivement, a first for a console game. Props to the developers for even trying it :grin:

Still waiting patiently for Birds of Steel......

hello bro!

millions thanks !really very kind from u!!!honored and moved!!

friendly
olife

Olife, great comic strip again :) Well done mate, can't wait for the next one.

Theirs some interesting things been said and i'm enjoying reading it all. The bizz regarding this game seems to be growing. Great to see.

hey bro!

millions thanks!honored and moved!!!

2 links for the vmf221 at midway

http://www.warbirdforum.com/midwayx.htm

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/e...dway/mid-2.htm

friendly
olife

Great links Olife, thanks :)

Shocking how many are MIA!!!


Whilst reading i did a bit more reading up on the Battle of Midway (this is your fault haha) and came across a pilot called George H Gay. The sole survivor of a Devastator squadron (30 pilots/radiomen) who attacked the IJN carriers without fighter cover.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._Gay,_Jr.

they put his story in the movie "midway"... courageous and LUCKY man

They are trying to make it more humiliating :)
To stimulate players try more deep difficulty settings.

Unlike simmers, most of the people don't think that 'arcade' means 'ridiculously easy'.

Hehe... Well put :cool:

Nice to see you here again Anton.

Must the winter pass quickly by...

To be better prepared and sufficiently trained for the upcoming battle of the Kuban peninsula you guys better learn how to handle the IL2 Shturmovik. This instruction video should help a lot. Better brush up your russian though... Mine is a bit rusty ;-)

http://redskyblackdeath.wordpress.com/the-shturmovik/

Also found a reference to one of the more ranked pilots of the Shturmovik;

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/yegorova.html

Why Foz? The Pacific Ocean is a mighty big place, I'm surprised that they found as many sailors and downed air crew as they did.

Recording for BoS in St. Petersburg. First taste of the music score

http://www.videogamer.com/videos/bir...g_feature.html