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Scarecrow 05-16-2011 06:17 AM
Enough with apologies. The cretins making all the noise don't want your apologies they just want to destroy your product/livelyhood/life. Even if the release had been flawless they would have found something to criticise as I guess you didn't make their plane/ammo uber enough in 1946 or maybe the IL2 series was to much of a success for their liking and they have taken it upon themselves to knock you down a notch for your impertenance. Don't bother apologising as the only thing they want is you on your knees in a gutter begging for spare change, they are not even interested in the game and the future of flightsims.

I feel sorry for you having to bow and scrape for the approval of a bunch of (insert expletive here).

Flying_Nutcase 05-16-2011 06:49 AM
It's good of you to check in. Much appreciated and good luck with progress.

Langnasen 05-16-2011 07:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiger27 (Post 283731)
Originally Posted by carguy_ View Post
Thank you for the information. Community manager is something I`d welcome, especially when we have some trolls here posting about 1C aborting the project. Posting few words from time to time will prove them wrong.



No your point was to stir up trouble as usual, have you apologised yet for the lie you told about the game being dumped, your always big on honesty and expecting apologies from the devs in your posts, so how about you lead the way?
You're wrong, my post was not intended to "cause trouble", it was intended to get a reaction. An appropriate reaction. Comms from the devs. And there were no "lies" told. Unless you'd like to prove me wrong with a quote? Hmm? Easy word to throw around Tiger. But even if I had "lied", it wouldn't be the biggest "lie" around here, would it.

Complete silence from the devs, even after people had posted messages about it, that got me riled up. I figured a post summising the game had been dumped might get somebody's attention, and it did. You may be comfortable being ignored under these sorts of circumstances, but me and a whole bunch of other people ARE NOT.

And Luthier is in agreement, so save your whining Tiger.

Langnasen 05-16-2011 07:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarecrow (Post 283779)
Enough with apologies. The cretins making all the noise don't want your apologies they just want to destroy your product/livelyhood/life. Even if the release had been flawless they would have found something to criticise as I guess you didn't make their plane/ammo uber enough in 1946 or maybe the IL2 series was to much of a success for their liking and they have taken it upon themselves to knock you down a notch for your impertenance. Don't bother apologising as the only thing they want is you on your knees in a gutter begging for spare change, they are not even interested in the game and the future of flightsims.

I feel sorry for you having to bow and scrape for the approval of a bunch of (insert expletive here).
If this game ever reaches the promise of its potential it'll get the same support from me (at least) that I've given OFF over the last few years. That of being the best sim since RB2-3D.

Boogz 05-16-2011 08:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langnasen (Post 283828)
You're wrong, my post was not intended to "cause trouble", it was intended to get a reaction. An appropriate reaction. Comms from the devs. And there were no "lies" told. Unless you'd like to prove me wrong with a quote? Hmm? Easy word to throw around Tiger. But even if I had "lied", it wouldn't be the biggest "lie" around here, would it.

Complete silence from the devs, even after people had posted messages about it, that got me riled up. I figured a post summising the game had been dumped might get somebody's attention, and it did. You may be comfortable being ignored under these sorts of circumstances, but me and a whole bunch of other people ARE NOT.

And Luthier is in agreement, so save your whining Tiger.
Werner, how are you doing up there? Bit windy on the top, isnt it? But do not despair, you standing firm in your lonely battle to give us, the lesser people, a game that we some day may be able to enjoy is most highly appreciated. Thank you!

Langnasen 05-16-2011 09:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boogz (Post 283852)
Werner, how are you doing up there? Bit windy on the top, isnt it? But do not despair, you standing firm in your lonely battle to give us, the lesser people, a game that we some day may be able to enjoy is most highly appreciated. Thank you!
You're welcome.

If it wasn't for the complainers we wouldn't have had a single patch, the devs would be sitting back counting their money while the purchasing public was cooing at how good-looking the slideshow was. :lol:

SEE 05-16-2011 09:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langnasen (Post 283855)
You're welcome.

If it wasn't for the complainers we wouldn't have had a single patch, the devs would be sitting back counting their money while the purchasing public was cooing at how good-looking the slideshow was. :lol:


You are kidding?.......'testing and evaluation' plays a greater part in driving improvements! Everyone who gave constructive feedback to the devs deserves credit. Show me a single thread regards 'how cool the game looks as a slideshow' and your perception of the Developers is pretty insulting........

Langnasen 05-16-2011 09:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SEE (Post 283861)
You are kidding?.......'testing and evaluation' plays a greater part in driving improvements! Everyone who gave constructive feedback to the devs deserves credit. Show me a single thread regards 'how cool the game looks as a slideshow' and your perception of the Developers is pretty insulting........
Yeah, I'm kidding...kind of. That's why there's a laughing smiley on the end of the sentence.

The point has a point...if there had not been bitter criticism of this game do you think there would have been such a concerted effort from the devs? If there was not continued bitter criticism do you think the devs would still be as commited? Take a hint from Human Nature 101 mate.

Boogz 05-16-2011 09:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langnasen (Post 283695)
The obvious was clearly over some peoples' heads though, wasn't it. :rolleyes:
Above qoute springs to mind (fyi my post was 100 per cent ironic).

Tiger27 05-16-2011 11:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langnasen (Post 283828)
You're wrong, my post was not intended to "cause trouble", it was intended to get a reaction. An appropriate reaction. Comms from the devs. And there were no "lies" told. Unless you'd like to prove me wrong with a quote? Hmm? Easy word to throw around Tiger. But even if I had "lied", it wouldn't be the biggest "lie" around here, would it.

Complete silence from the devs, even after people had posted messages about it, that got me riled up. I figured a post summising the game had been dumped might get somebody's attention, and it did. You may be comfortable being ignored under these sorts of circumstances, but me and a whole bunch of other people ARE NOT.

And Luthier is in agreement, so save your whining Tiger.
Do you even read what you post or do you just let it dribble out without thought, heres your quote.

Oh just to remind you, the title of your thread was "So the games been dumped."

Now I dont see a question mark in your title, sounds more like a statement to me, your op didnt do anything to change that opinion either,
"Didn't take long, did it. About four weeks was it? Another notch on Ubi's barrel. Shame, there were a few days there when it looked like the devs almost had it cracked."

Of course it would get a reaction, its was a blatant lie as the game hasn't been dumped as you cleary stated in the title.

You do realise there are many other people that asked for the devs to give us some information, without resorting to the rubbish you post, its not that what you request is always wrong it's the way you go about it, we all know the game needs fixing but for some reason you seem to think you are some internet superhero fighting against injustice in the gaming world, thanks for your help, but no thanks.

Anyway, you have your quote, oh by the way, whining is when you carry on about something over and over, you should know about that Werner/Langnasen.

Langnasen 05-16-2011 12:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiger27 (Post 283928)
Anyway, you have your quote, oh by the way, whining is when you carry on about something over and over, you should know about that Werner/Langnasen.
Yes. So please, quit whining Tiger.

And as already pointed out as obvious, the post was intended to provoke, not deceive. Obviously. Therefore not a lie. Obviously. :rolleyes:

kendo65 05-16-2011 01:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langnasen (Post 283937)
Yes. So please, quit whining Tiger.

And as already pointed out as obvious, the post was intended to provoke, not deceive. Obviously. Therefore not a lie. Obviously. :rolleyes:
"Obviously"?? - there was nothing obvious about it. Or do you want us to take everything you say as potentially untrue, done for some ulterior motive that you consider in all our best interests?

It takes some chutzpah to try to turn spreading blatantly untrue and potentially damaging information into some kind of warm-hearted, public service motive.

Baron 05-16-2011 01:11 PM
Funny thing is, i never asked to be looked after or have somone stand up for my rights.

Blackdog_kt 05-16-2011 01:22 PM
So, you purposefully try to annoy people to get a reaction? Sorry, but that's the usual definition of trolling :-P

I don't have any problem with people saying there are issues with the sim. I've said so a bunch of times, but i report the issues in the relevant threads, look for work-arounds and if i manage to find one i tell other people about it too, it might just make the sim more playable for them.

Which means, i don't go around saying "the game is broken and crap", i post in the gameplay threads and say "the gyrocompass doesn't work in the ju88" when someone asks why the autopilot doesn't work.

It's not what you say, it's how you say it. Thinking that your tactics at provoking a response are the cause of the community as a whole getting one is a display of a bit too much self importance if you ask me.

This is no different to the people who defend the sim no matter what and that's the funniest thing of all, the strongly negative people and the full-on fanboy mode posters hate each other's guts, but they are actually quite similar: they all think they have an impact on the product's long term, much more than they do ;)

MegOhm 05-16-2011 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IceFire (Post 283388)
Luthier as always thanks for keeping us in the loop. I don't need daily updates but I love to hear how you guys are doing. It makes the whole thing that much more real to me and it gives us that inside track that we really appreciate.

I still can't even buy the game yet but it looks like Steam release to North American customers is coming up soon and I'm excited to get in on the action.

Good luck and keep things coming!
Yes you can buy it now, go to http://justflight.com/product.asp?pid=645

I live in SoCal and have Had it a for about a month now, pay here get your code and DL at Steam.....

Langnasen 05-16-2011 01:51 PM
Oh please, spare me the pretended outrage and manufactured inability to understand the obvious.

philip.ed 05-16-2011 01:54 PM
The obvious? The obvious is just your opinion. Not everyone will agree with your views, so don't be arrogant enough to assume that they are correct.

kaisey 05-16-2011 01:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langnasen (Post 283695)
I'd like to think my previous post had something to do with Luthier's post, as was intended. The point had to be made, because nobody else's was working.

The obvious was clearly over some peoples' heads though, wasn't it. :rolleyes:

As for Luthier's post, it's a good one and could only have been improved by being a few days earlier. Being kept in the picture isn't much to ask, and clearly Luthier agrees. :)


LMAO@Langnasen....please don't try and say your motive was so noble as to get devs to reply. How old are you by the way?

All your posts are negative... I think you are just out for bite.

But it is entertaining.....but always the same guys bagging this game

Fansadox 05-16-2011 03:04 PM
Enough Luthier...

Dont keep saying in every single post you work 12 to 14 hours a day 7 days a week cause i DONT care. Thats your problem and it means your team isnt sufficient at all. Ever tried driving a racing car with only one gear ? right doesnt work either...


So fix the broken sorryA game cause its getting annoying. Fullscreen giving problems made me laugh im sorry but i dont feel sorry for you guys at all. dont get me wrong i loved Il2 and hell it looks 200% better then COD with a configurated ini file and some modpacks. But this game just takes the piss.

Your not getting any carebear love from me unlike the tons of golden retrievers that lurk here. Just do the job and fix it !

KG26_Alpha 05-16-2011 03:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by T}{OR (Post 283682)
Thank you luthier for posting this. By the time I purchase the game it will be well operational for the majority users.

Any news on the dedicated server software?
CoD is a dedicated server already.

Using "-server" on the launcher .exe

But the search feature on this forum should explain more for you.








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Strike 05-16-2011 03:08 PM
I must say it's interesting how every status update initially is greeted with thanks and encouragement, but somehow it always finds a way to turn into a "good job" versus "awful job" epic battle of flaming and trolling after only a few days. The essence of the original post is now only a battlefield riddled with craters and burning wrecks and bodies that are now rotting and stinking the place up.

Anyone agree?

Fansadox 05-16-2011 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike (Post 284032)
I must say it's interesting how every status update initially is greeted with thanks and encouragement, but somehow it always finds a way to turn into a "good job" versus "awful job" epic battle of flaming and trolling after only a few days. The essence of the original post is now only a battlefield riddled with craters and burning wrecks and bodies that are now rotting and stinking the place up.

Anyone agree?
Disagree cause people have different visions and feelings about this game its good and healthy for a company to hear both.

kendo65 05-16-2011 03:11 PM
Yeah. May as well lock it now.

Winger 05-16-2011 03:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike (Post 284032)
I must say it's interesting how every status update initially is greeted with thanks and encouragement, but somehow it always finds a way to turn into a "good job" versus "awful job" epic battle of flaming and trolling after only a few days. The essence of the original post is now only a battlefield riddled with craters and burning wrecks and bodies that are now rotting and stinking the place up.

Anyone agree?
I do. People should stop complaining ad start playing. I for my part enjoy tha game bigtime. And ever day i get a little better at aiming with my 109 and the cannonammo stops to feel as if it were only like 20 bullets:)

Winger

Strike 05-16-2011 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fansadox (Post 284033)
Disagree cause people have different visions and feelings about this game its good and healthy for a company to hear both.
Did you read at all the few sentances I wrote? I agree 100% that it's healthy to hear both good sides and bad sides experienced by the customers. Otherwise the product wouldn't go anywhere. But my point is that it's becoming personal attacks and getting way out of topic with people making up excuses or denying valid point of their opposition just to keep arguing. Feel free to disagree though...

T}{OR 05-16-2011 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 284030)
CoD is a dedicated server already.

Using "-server" on the launcher .exe

But the search feature on this forum should explain more for you.
Ah! Thanks for explaining that.

Don't have the game yet.

Langnasen 05-16-2011 03:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 283994)
The obvious? The obvious is just your opinion. Not everyone will agree with your views, so don't be arrogant enough to assume that they are correct.
Don't be arrogant enough to think I give a rats arse what you think mate, you or any of the other obsequious haters around here. All I give a damn about is seeing this game run 100%.

II./JG1_Wilcke 05-16-2011 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boogz (Post 283488)
Hey, hey, hey, your wrecking my wheat crop with that buzz job! To bad my 20mm wasn't loaded and manned!

whatnot 05-16-2011 04:33 PM
Thanks for the info luthier!

About time to get a community manager to babysit this nuthouse. I'd also appereciate if mods would keep the trolls in bay by just deleting the posts, because it gets ridiculous reading the same whines and rants for almost two months in a row.

We all know that loads of stuff needs to be added and fixed and we'll possibly even get someone to keep us up-to-date about the progress. But for f*cks sake STFU already on the "It wasn't a finished product, have shelved it, feel cheated, not enough fun, want money back, big stutters" -threads and posts!!!11one

It's yesterday's news! Everyone knows them after 30498309 repeats and everything useful is buried under whiners rants and even decent threads go under because of it. Just make a sticky of acknowledging the issues and ban everyone crying after their loss of faith in humanity because of CloD. And then simply ban everyone for not voicing the issues in a constructive manner!

This is my rant on rants and will prolly get me in trouble, but my cry-whine detector exploded and I couldn't help it. My hat goes off to rest of you who try to keep a civil discussion with the trolls and other whinos without resorting to name calling.
But I think they're a bunch of whining maggots that should crawl under their blankets and continue their cries there, as I don't think another 8 weeks of it here @ 1c forum will be enough to dry your eyes. We all know you're upset, enough already!

philip.ed 05-16-2011 04:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langnasen (Post 284045)
Don't be arrogant enough to think I give a rats arse what you think mate, you or any of the other obsequious haters around here. All I give a damn about is seeing this game run 100%.
Hater? that's rich. And if you don't care, why responsd?
I know you 'apparently' want to see this game run 100%. You've said it 100 times, and that's in the space of a week or so.
But if you really care so much then spend your-time bugfixing and supplying the team with useful information, other than posts which you 'think' will spur luthier to make an announcement...an announcement which causes him to stop work on the sim to write a statement on what they plan to do with it...

But logic was never your strong point. Don't get me wrong, I can see what you're intending to do, but you're trolling your way around as though your views are the views to end all views. And I'm not arrogant to think that you care, just considerate in understanding your view, when you are clearly someone who is conceited and unrelenting in moaning (un-constructively).

kristorf 05-16-2011 04:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whatnot (Post 284073)
Thanks for the info luthier!

About time to get a community manager to babysit this nuthouse. I'd also appereciate if mods would keep the trolls in bay by just deleting the posts, because it gets ridiculous reading the same whines and rants for almost two months in a row.

We all know that loads of stuff needs to be added and fixed and we'll possibly even get someone to keep us up-to-date about the progress. But for f*cks sake STFU already on the "It wasn't a finished product, have shelved it, feel cheated, not enough fun, want money back, big stutters" -threads and posts!!!11one

It's yesterday's news! Everyone knows them after 30498309 repeats and everything useful is buried under whiners rants and even decent threads go under because of it. Just make a sticky of acknowledging the issues and ban everyone crying after their loss of faith in humanity because of CloD. And then simply ban everyone for not voicing the issues in a constructive manner!

This is my rant on rants and will prolly get me in trouble, but my cry-whine detector exploded and I couldn't help it. My hat goes off to rest of you who try to keep a civil discussion with the trolls and other whinos without resorting to name calling.
But I think they're a bunch of whining maggots that should crawl under their blankets and continue their cries there, as I don't think another 8 weeks of it here @ 1c forum will be enough to dry your eyes. We all know you're upset, enough already!
+1

God help the poor soul who takes on the managers post.......

JG14_Jagr 05-16-2011 06:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langnasen (Post 283865)
If there was not continued bitter criticism do you think the devs would still be as commited? Take a hint from Human Nature 101 mate.
Absolutely there would be. The game plan is and always has been to use the core code as the basis for a long series of add ons. Its a business model that overcomes the shortcomings of flight simulations in general.. narrow customer base and HUGE development times.

KastaRules 05-16-2011 06:56 PM
Thank you guys for all your hard work!

Gollum 05-16-2011 07:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by luthier (Post 283377)
The current build we have did address the multiplayer issues, thanks in no small part to the help of the dedicated server hosts. Obviously MP is a larger priority than the full-screen mode. If by the end of the day Tuesday we still haven't solved the full screen issue, we will most likely release the patch anyway just so you guys can have stable reliable MP experience, and add the full-screen fix at a later time.
Thanks for the update. I do appreciate atleast knowing what's going on. What exactly is this full screen thing? As far as I know my game runs in full screen (at least I think it does). Are some people's games running in a window or something or is what my game doing not "full screen" and I just don't realize it? I keep seeing this and don't understand what it is exactly.:confused:

Frequent_Flyer 05-16-2011 07:53 PM
Mods can you open a single thread where Luthier posts as a " Read only". So the folks that have time only for the " News" can avoid all the "editorials " ?

kllr101 05-16-2011 10:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frequent_Flyer (Post 284142)
Mods can you open a single thread where Luthier posts as a " Read only". So the folks that have time only for the " News" can avoid all the "editorials " ?
This would be a good idea actually, a "latest update" thread, that luthier can update with news.

It'll also be a good archive for the team to go back over at a later date, too. :)

Freycinet 05-16-2011 11:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langnasen (Post 283828)
You're wrong, my post was not intended to "cause trouble", it was intended to get a reaction. An appropriate reaction. Comms from the devs. And there were no "lies" told. Unless you'd like to prove me wrong with a quote? Hmm? Easy word to throw around Tiger. But even if I had "lied", it wouldn't be the biggest "lie" around here, would it.

Complete silence from the devs, even after people had posted messages about it, that got me riled up. I figured a post summising the game had been dumped might get somebody's attention, and it did. You may be comfortable being ignored under these sorts of circumstances, but me and a whole bunch of other people ARE NOT.

And Luthier is in agreement, so save your whining Tiger.
Wernervoss, you really are pathologically ill. God riddance.

Skoshi Tiger 05-17-2011 12:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frequent_Flyer (Post 284142)
Mods can you open a single thread where Luthier posts as a " Read only". So the folks that have time only for the " News" can avoid all the "editorials " ?
+1 This would be a very sensible idea.

ATAG_Doc 05-17-2011 03:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JG14_Jagr (Post 284119)
Absolutely there would be. The game plan is and always has been to use the core code as the basis for a long series of add ons. Its a business model that overcomes the shortcomings of flight simulations in general.. narrow customer base and HUGE development times.

I wish more people would understand this but it's all about the me I guess.

Tiger27 05-17-2011 06:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langnasen (Post 283937)
Yes. So please, quit whining Tiger.

And as already pointed out as obvious, the post was intended to provoke, not deceive. Obviously. Therefore not a lie. Obviously. :rolleyes:
You asked for a quote proving you were lying, you were given the quote and now come back with some rubbish about your intent to provoke being obvious, therefore not a lie. Sorry but that is total BS, obviously :rolleyes:

klem 05-17-2011 06:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike (Post 284032)
I must say it's interesting how every status update initially is greeted with thanks and encouragement, but somehow it always finds a way to turn into a "good job" versus "awful job" epic battle of flaming and trolling after only a few days. The essence of the original post is now only a battlefield riddled with craters and burning wrecks and bodies that are now rotting and stinking the place up.

Anyone agree?
+1

anything past page 3 is probably not worth reading (yes I know, I'm here, I jump to the last page to see if there's any closing news). Its Luthier's update. Its not a mods request (plenty of threads for that) or an e-peening arena. But it will always be like that.

klem 05-17-2011 06:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by louisv (Post 283381)
Thanks Luthier, can't wait for the 24th !
Hmmm 15th = Sunday, 'Tuesday' = 17th ? Fingers crossed.

Eklund89 05-17-2011 07:20 AM
Its eight days left to America release. If i were trying to get a bug-free game released i would start throwing beta patches like crazy at the same time i would arrange some kind of bug reporting site. They have really shot themselves in the foot when they try to get consistent information from random people in random posts at a forum.
Maybe they got some better idea in the works that we don't know of. As long as we get a nice America release we should all be happy. I hope a lot of people will by the game at release.
I'm really looking forward to some new content and working multi-player!

Robert 05-17-2011 07:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langnasen (Post 283828)
You're wrong, my post was not intended to "cause trouble", it was intended to get a reaction. An appropriate reaction. Comms from the devs. And there were no "lies" told. Unless you'd like to prove me wrong with a quote? Hmm? Easy word to throw around Tiger. But even if I had "lied", it wouldn't be the biggest "lie" around here, would it.

Complete silence from the devs, even after people had posted messages about it, that got me riled up. I figured a post summising the game had been dumped might get somebody's attention, and it did. You may be comfortable being ignored under these sorts of circumstances, but me and a whole bunch of other people ARE NOT.

And Luthier is in agreement, so save your whining Tiger.

A man who believes his own hype. ROLF.

Luthier was probably being more polite than anything. Your attempt to elicit a response from the team didn't cause them to respond to you except to stave off further infighting within the community. In fighting that you caused. In other words they were stamping out the little fire you started. Baby sitting? Yeah. That fits. They were baby sitting the likes of you.

That's all right. Keep building your castle in the sky. It must look pretty nice from where you sit. Too bad it's just a delusion. If any of your criticisms had ever been constructive you'd be an asset to the community, but I've not read one. Believe what you will, but the reality is that you are a troll...... here and at Sim HQ.

engarde 05-17-2011 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by luthier (Post 283377)
Hi everyone,

As I see, there are plenty of wild rumors circulating on these forums, and of course it's completely our fault. I myself simply cannot spend enough time posting on these forums, as I work 10-12 hour days 7 days a week and barely have time to sit down. I feel the weight of my failure to interact with the community daily, but all I have time for is browsing the forums, not actually posting.

We are however in the process of creating a full-time community manager position and setting up an old team member who will interact with you guys daily, answer questions, and keep you up to date on all events.

Otherwise, the work on the patch continues. The true full-screen mode has been a nightmare from hell. It still does not work properly. Every once in a while, after you hit Esc to go to the menu from inside the game, the game will go into the background and require you to alt-tab to you. And while it may seem like a pretty minor thing to most of you, after everything you've already lived through, it's still bad practice and annoying and we always feel like we're 'this' close to solving it.

The current build we have did address the multiplayer issues, thanks in no small part to the help of the dedicated server hosts. Obviously MP is a larger priority than the full-screen mode. If by the end of the day Tuesday we still haven't solved the full screen issue, we will most likely release the patch anyway just so you guys can have stable reliable MP experience, and add the full-screen fix at a later time.

We are also hard at work on some larger game components. We are also hiring, with quite a few new openings posted recently for our Moscow office. We already have a new team member, an experienced AI programmer, reworking our plane AI code and voice comms, and we are working to expand and improve our team during the coming weeks to make sure we can roll out better more well-rounded updates quicker. We are also hard at work on FM changes and improvements, redesigning GUI to make it more user-friendly, and creating new variants of existing aircraft.

Those team members not hard at work on improving CoD have also been working on new content for a new project for quite some time. We've posted a teaser in our V-E day post. Just to state again, work on that project is specifically designed not to interfere with our CoD support.

Most importantly, please don't take the frequency of my visits as an indication of anything right now. As a matter of fact, if you see me here posting a lot, that's the best clue that we are NOT working as hard as we should. All of us at 1C:Maddox Games, 1C Softclub, and Ubisoft, are fully committed to the game and to the series, and like we always said, we will continue to support it with patches, add-ons and sequels in the coming months and years.
i have quiet, solid faith that you and your team will shape a masterpiece as envisioned all along.

but, i must ask, always be on the side of "real", or "accurate", as you can get on the hardware vs performance scales.

please dont dumb things down for the legion of console minded kiddies who want a shoot-em-up.

its a simulator, if i want console games ill go buy something with Mario in it.

602Sqn.McLean 05-17-2011 11:55 AM
It's nearly 'the end of the day' Tuesday. Will that patch arrive. Unfortunately it's well and truly the end of tuesday for me. I'm off to bed. Will be looking here first thing in the morning before work to see.

Kankkis 05-17-2011 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 602Sqn.McLean (Post 284379)
It's nearly 'the end of the day' Tuesday. Will that patch arrive. Unfortunately it's well and truly the end of tuesday for me. I'm off to bed. Will be looking here first thing in the morning before work to see.

Moscow time is 16.15, most patches has been out 19.00-22.00 moscow time.

Ze-Jamz 05-17-2011 12:46 PM
Does this mean the patch will be released today (Tuesday) so we have time to test it/report back?

Or does Luth mean that they will give it till Tuesday to sort out 'fullscreen' but if not they will shelf it for now so they can concentrate on MP to get it fixed for Friday?

?

EDIT.. just read the above post, so hopefully today then

Eshark 05-17-2011 01:16 PM
Thanks for the update please keep them coming Iam really impressed by the way the guys are working hard on our behalf to get this game sorted out.I have been enjoying it as it is but yes much more needs to be done but Iam sure they will get there

Kankkis 05-17-2011 04:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kankkis (Post 284396)
Moscow time is 16.15, most patches has been out 19.00-22.00 moscow time.
Now im getting worried :(

kristorf 05-17-2011 04:49 PM
Here we go, patch panic.........

Ze-Jamz 05-17-2011 04:52 PM
I wouldnt go as far to say im worried :) but it looks like it was what i first thought..

They were going to try to get Fullscreen ready so it can be implemented into the patch on Friday or whenever its scheduled for release but they were only going to give it today (tuesday) before they give up on it? as more important things need to be sorted and have time spent on them like MP for example..

at least thats how i read it the first time

Strike 05-17-2011 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kankkis (Post 284504)
Now im getting worried :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDC5JalP4nU

skouras 05-17-2011 04:57 PM
i guess no patch today:grin:
nice video though:-)

Heinz Laube 05-17-2011 04:57 PM
Quote:
The current build we have did address the multiplayer issues, thanks in no small part to the help of the dedicated server hosts. Obviously MP is a larger priority than the full-screen mode. If by the end of the day Tuesday we still haven't solved the full screen issue, we will most likely release the patch anyway just so you guys can have stable reliable MP experience, and add the full-screen fix at a later time.
according to this, the patch will come today, even the fullscreen isnt ready, patch is mainly for multiplayer stability... so just have patience. better patch later, then too early, again

Kankkis 05-17-2011 06:16 PM
Looks no patch today, moscow time is 22.17

No145_Hatter 05-17-2011 06:28 PM
That's the final straw.

I am going to kill a kitten every hour, on the hour, until the patch is released.

http://www.rathergood.com/cats

"God kills a kitten every time you masturbate"

Ze-Jamz 05-17-2011 06:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kankkis (Post 284545)
Looks no patch today, moscow time is 22.17
Lol..you got a point there

Ataros 05-17-2011 06:55 PM
100 people waiting for a patch on the forums. Why wait here? Get in multiplayer and relax. You can alt-tab to forums after each kill.

Many kittens and Obama's pills can be found in D3 zone on Repka #1 NOW.

Just see for yourself.
:grin:

Ze-Jamz 05-17-2011 07:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 284561)
100 people waiting for a patch on the forums. Why wait here? Get in multiplayer and relax. You can alt-tab to forums after each kill.

Many kittens and Obama's pills can be found in D3 zone on Repka #1 NOW.

Just see for yourself.
:grin:
I'd love too if i could only select an Airfield :evil: (bugs gunna get yer)

Ataros 05-17-2011 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz (Post 284568)
I'd love too if i could only select an Airfield :evil: (bugs gunna get yer)
Don't give up :grin: Just move your mouse about half-inch to 4 or 5 o'clock from a desired airfield till you see a pop-up saying "Spawn_1" for instance. Then just double click this point. Do not forget to chose your army first.

Real easy if you are as patient as a real WWII pilot :)

ps. Have some hangar explosions on the most eastern red airfield. Will try to fix it soon. Use other airfields for now.

Ze-Jamz 05-17-2011 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 284571)
Don't give up :grin: Just move your mouse about half-inch to 4 or 5 o'clock from a desired airfield till you see a pop-up saying "Spawn_1" for instance. Then just double click this point. Do not forget to chose your army first.

Real easy if you are as patient as a real WWII pilot :)

ps. Have some hangar explosions on the most eastern red airfield. Will try to fix it soon. Use other airfields for now.
Lol..yea i know all this mate :)

ive been playing on other servers but for some reason i cannot select airfields anywhere on yours

adonys 05-17-2011 08:21 PM
so, no patch as of yet?

AARPRazorbacks 05-17-2011 08:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adonys (Post 284596)
so, no patch as of yet?
Not that I know of.

Strike 05-17-2011 09:05 PM
Ok, excuse my irritation, but what kind of mindless person would still ask if there's still no patch when every single patch released comes in a NEW thread at the sticky top of the forum?!

Come on guys... seriously. It's not like Luthier is sitting at home, drinking beer infront of the TV and suddenly going "HOLY KREMLIN! I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THAT PATCH LMFAOROFLLOLZ!!"

Let me semi-quote Luthier and say "If he's not posting here, he's busy fixing the game or reading complaints".

SERIOUSLY! Listen to Obama, chillpills!!! Now! Some of you guys need to OD on them.

Stanger 05-17-2011 09:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by strike (Post 284607)
ok, excuse my irritation, but what kind of mindless person would still ask if there's still no patch when every single patch released comes in a new thread at the sticky top of the forum?!

Come on guys... Seriously. It's not like luthier is sitting at home, drinking beer infront of the tv and suddenly going "holy kremlin! I totally forgot about that patch lmfaorofllolz!!"

let me semi-quote luthier and say "if he's not posting here, he's busy fixing the game or reading complaints".

Seriously! Listen to obama, chillpills!!! Now! Some of you guys need to od on them.
mlol

RE77ACTION 05-17-2011 09:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike (Post 284607)
Ok, excuse my irritation, but what kind of mindless person would still ask if there's still no patch when every single patch released comes in a NEW thread at the sticky top of the forum?!

Come on guys... seriously. It's not like Luthier is sitting at home, drinking beer infront of the TV and suddenly going "HOLY KREMLIN! I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THAT PATCH LMFAOROFLLOLZ!!"

Let me semi-quote Luthier and say "If he's not posting here, he's busy fixing the game or reading complaints".

SERIOUSLY! Listen to Obama, chillpills!!! Now! Some of you guys need to OD on them.

:grin:

Ze-Jamz 05-17-2011 09:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike (Post 284607)
Ok, excuse my irritation, but what kind of mindless person would still ask if there's still no patch when every single patch released comes in a NEW thread at the sticky top of the forum?!

Come on guys... seriously. It's not like Luthier is sitting at home, drinking beer infront of the TV and suddenly going "HOLY KREMLIN! I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THAT PATCH LMFAOROFLLOLZ!!"

Let me semi-quote Luthier and say "If he's not posting here, he's busy fixing the game or reading complaints".

SERIOUSLY! Listen to Obama, chillpills!!! Now! Some of you guys need to OD on them.
ROFLMAOLOLZ...thats well funny, shit i cant stop laughing

adonys 05-17-2011 09:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike (Post 284607)
Ok, excuse my irritation..

actually, it's more like "If by the end of the day Tuesday we still haven't solved the full screen issue, we will most likely release the patch anyway just so you guys can have stable reliable MP experience, and add the full-screen fix at a later time".. Luthier said that, not me, so you, sir, are an idiot, pardon my french!

JG14_Jagr 05-17-2011 09:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adonys (Post 284625)
we will most likely release the patch anyway just so you guys can have stable reliable MP experience,
There are no sure things :)

DrSanchez 05-17-2011 10:01 PM
if you wait till the end of the day on Tuesday, then it is Wednesday. No?

Ze-Jamz 05-17-2011 10:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adonys (Post 284625)
actually, it's more like "If by the end of the day Tuesday we still haven't solved the full screen issue, we will most likely release the patch anyway just so you guys can have stable reliable MP experience, and add the full-screen fix at a later time".. Luthier said that, not me, so you, sir, are an idiot, pardon my french!
i think he got lost in the moment or didnt get the vibe from the thread...to me it looks like a few people are chatting amongst themselves as opposed to 'demanding' a patch which is what hes implying...

nvm

Strike 05-17-2011 10:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adonys (Post 284625)
actually, it's more like "If by the end of the day Tuesday we still haven't solved the full screen issue, we will most likely release the patch anyway just so you guys can have stable reliable MP experience, and add the full-screen fix at a later time".. Luthier said that, not me, so you, sir, are an idiot, pardon my french!
I'm sorry I offended you, but it was kindof on purpose to offend the "mindless people" that keep asking just for the sake of asking. It reminds me of : "Are we there yet? Are we there yet?" The answer is still no. Some guy already highlighted the same quote you threw at me and I re-quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by adonys (Post 284625)
we will most likely release the patch
. Does it say he will?

To most people here, my post wasn't offensive but rather funny and I talked in general, I didn't attack you specifically. You just happened to be in the target group.

You, however, just served your own head on a silver plate by calling me, specifically, an idiot. Why do such a thing?

:( sadface

Tree_UK 05-17-2011 10:18 PM
Likely, Probably and Hopefully. These words were used frequently during development and have proved useful on more than one occasion. :grin:

Strike 05-17-2011 10:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 284634)
Likely, Probably and Hopefully. These words were used frequently during development and have proved useful on more than one occasion. :grin:
Also, surely Tree if I borrow your huge magnifying glass from your avatar a sec. Thank you... let's see... ah! Clue! Tuesday. He hasn't specified which Tuesday he's thinking about!

Also to add on the quote list : Be sure. It means the opposite multiplied with a random value between 2 weeks and 5 years.

*Hands back magnifying glass* Thank you!

Tree_UK 05-17-2011 10:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike (Post 284635)
Also, surely Tree if I borrow your huge magnifying glass from your avatar a sec. Thank you... let's see... ah! Clue! Tuesday. He hasn't specified which Tuesday he's thinking about!

Also to add on the quote list : Be sure. It means the opposite multiplied with a random value between 2 weeks and 5 years.

*Hands back magnifying glass* Thank you!
lol, excellent observation there Strike old chap. :grin:

AARPRazorbacks 05-18-2011 12:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike (Post 284607)
Ok, excuse my irritation, but what kind of mindless person would still ask if there's still no patch when every single patch released comes in a NEW thread at the sticky top of the forum?!

Come on guys... seriously. It's not like Luthier is sitting at home, drinking beer infront of the TV and suddenly going "HOLY KREMLIN! I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THAT PATCH LMFAOROFLLOLZ!!"

Let me semi-quote Luthier and say "If he's not posting here, he's busy fixing the game or reading complaints".

SERIOUSLY! Listen to Obama, chillpills!!! Now! Some of you guys need to OD on them.
Word to the wise:
"Don't throw salt over your shoulder if your the person that has to sweeping the floor.":)

Codex 05-18-2011 01:23 AM
At the end of the day some people fail to understand that software development, no matter what the project, is not an exact science. And it's unfortunate that we live in a "I must have it now" society where some people find it hard to come to grips with the concept of patience.

Here’s an email trail of my experience at work …

Manager:
Quote:
Hi Marc,
In <boss>'s absence could you please advise on the below?
Hi <boss>,
Could you please advise when our Team Leaders will have access to the Performance Calculator?

Me:
Quote:
Hi <Manager>,

I'm unable to give an exact date, <boss> and I need to run some tests on the data your Team Leaders have provided us to make sure the calculator is reflecting accurate results before releasing it. I've set aside two weeks ( ;) ) to get things finalised; however, <boss> has got the final say on when it goes live.
Manager:
Quote:
Hi Marc,

Due to the fact that we need to deliver Performance Management Reviews now, can we aim to get this application ASAP? Or should I advise the Team Leader to deliver PMRs in the old excel docs?
This "unknown" is frustrating for the Team Leaders and Consultants.”
Me:
Quote:
If the TL's need to deliver their Performance Reviews right now then by all means deliver them via the old workbooks.

I can appreciate the frustration. At this time though, we still don't have all the Team Leader’s half year results as requested, and all their workstation ID to deploy the Calculator. Also, I'm testing the integrity of the data that we do have through the calculator, and coding in the "print" function so the TL's can produce a hardcopy of the results.

Having discussed this with <boss> our aim is to have everything in place, ready to go for Team Leader's to start entering in April's results by May, and to have all the first half results stored and verified.

I hope this provides you with some clarity.
... this happened a day after demonstrating the application at a managers meeting and clearly stating that the application was not ready.

I feel for you Luthier :cool:

Skoshi Tiger 05-18-2011 02:13 AM
I don't blame the development team for not releasing a patch before it is ready.

There is an extremely vocal element in our community that is highly critical and would jump on even minor bugs and flood the forum with digital effluent.

Ah Well it is the price we all have to pay!

Cheers to the development team for their continued hard work and diligence.

machoo 05-18-2011 04:43 AM
OMG no patch , yet and it's Wednesday afternoons. Surely this must mean that they have all quit.

Doc_uk 05-18-2011 06:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by machoo (Post 284688)
OMG no patch , yet and it's Wednesday afternoons. Surely this must mean that they have all quit.
They are all round my place having tea and buiscuts :)

Vengeanze 05-18-2011 06:42 AM
No patch makes me happy. Means they're onto something and working fiercly (spelling).

Eklund89 05-18-2011 06:49 AM
The clock is 10:50 in Moscow.. we usually get patches at 22-23:00.

Kankkis 05-18-2011 06:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eklund89 (Post 284701)
The clock is 10:50 in Moscow.. we usually get patches at 22-23:00.
True but it's wednesday ;)

SG1_Lud 05-18-2011 07:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Codex (Post 284660)
At the end of the day some people fail to understand that software development, no matter what the project, is not an exact science. And it's unfortunate that we live in a "I must have it now" society where some people find it hard to come to grips with the concept of patience.

Here’s an email trail of my experience at work …

Manager:
[/INDENT]
Me:


Manager:


Me:


... this happened a day after demonstrating the application at a managers meeting and clearly stating that the application was not ready.

I feel for you Luthier :cool:
But... what if your last answer was like:

ME:You are right <Team Manager>. Is only our fault. We will stay here working for you 24/7 with no weekends, no family, "insert favourite sacrifice here"...

TEAM MANAGER:
Are you crazy? When we left yesterday's meeeting we ordered 50.000$ in brand new hardware just because you said that the performance calculator was almost done. We need it now!


<...>

See my point? Who fed the whine? :grin:

Jokes apart, human nature is so, we can't change that.

The pesimistic will disect every word and comma, make inferences and concludes the bottle as half empty. For god sake, some of them even will use a magnifying glass! (*)

The optimistic will see in every word of Luthier the bottle half full, if Luthier leaves a big shit in the middle or the room, they will think he is planning to gift them a horse. (*)

* Disclaimer: A caricature (from the Italian caricatura, which means "loaded portrait") is a portrait or drawing of a person that exaggerates the way they look, usually to create a humorous effect, or a political statement.

But almost everybody accepts that is half filled.
And is a fact that almost everybody, want it full.

As for me, the best thing I think I can do now is accept my role of beta testers and post in the correspondent thread our confirmed bug observations.

What I dont understand is why some don't accept it, and every time that one guy says "oh I love the game", or the opposite "i hate this game", has to intervene in the thread with something like "%$··" you moron, get out your ugly face of your 4$$hole".


*dives and run away*

BigPickle 05-18-2011 07:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheyennepilot (Post 284707)
As for me, the best thing I think I can do now is accept my role of beta testers and post in the correspondent thread our confirmed bug observations.
I think you'll find people cant accept it because they have paid $40 and ended up being a beta tester not through their choice.

Now, get out your ugly face of your 4$$hole" :-P (Joke)

I'm sure the patch will be here soon, think of it this way, maybe they have broke ground on the Full screen, and need a few more hours just to wrap it up!

klem 05-18-2011 07:30 AM
Wow! Tuesday came and went and some poor guy simply expressed his disappointment at not seeing the update yet. Perhaps he thought someone else may have seen something he hadn't. Let's be honest, we're all wondering when....

I'm not sure what's worse, the simple expression of disappointment or the thread-gobbling self-righteous crud that followed it. To which I'm adding of course, but thats what threads are like aren't they?

Just a minute, let me get my asbestos suit on before you all start. Or maybe I'll go back to bed and get out the other side.

SG1_Lud 05-18-2011 07:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPickle (Post 284709)
I think you'll find people cant accept it because they have paid $40 and ended up being a beta tester not through their choice.

Now, get out your ugly face of your 4$$hole" :-P (Joke)

Hehe thanks now I see better :D

As a side note: I paid after having known of the first russian reports, so I had the option.... But I can accept (with some doubts hehe) that someone else bought blindly (for example a noob in this forum)

Fjordmonkey 05-18-2011 07:50 AM
I think much of the discussions in this thread are rather hilarious, to be honest. So they didn't get the patch out yesterday. Big deal, zomgz someone call the whaaambulance.

Maybe it's because I've been playing MMO's for a very long time (most of it dealing with Funcom), but I've learned to have patience. Luthier & Co will put out a Beta-patch when they feel it's ready for testing.

Sometimes they'll have to push back an estimated release date. So what? Are people actually THIS impatient?

On second thought, nevermind answering that. I think the answer is pretty much given.

Eklund89 05-18-2011 07:59 AM
I actually think its hilarious to see when we get a patch and everybody gets happy like little kids. Then it takes about 2-3 days to a week until they start whine and whine and moan and bitch about stuff that didn't get fixed. After yet another week they start coming up with epic conspiracy theories about everyone and everything involved in IL2 COD being a scam and fake and everything is just bad because they have no patience. I lol each time.

I'm just happy luthier et al. don't care about the whiners and continue work.

Baron 05-18-2011 08:39 AM
If a team of professional shrinks would use a forum like this as a study group they would be scraching thire heads for decades to come.

ivo 05-18-2011 09:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eklund89 (Post 284720)
I actually think its hilarious to see when we get a patch and everybody gets happy like little kids. Then it takes about 2-3 days to a week until they start whine and whine and moan and bitch about stuff that didn't get fixed. After yet another week they start coming up with epic conspiracy theories about everyone and everything involved in IL2 COD being a scam and fake and everything is just bad because they have no patience. I lol each time.

I'm just happy luthier et al. don't care about the whiners and continue work.
+1

that right.:cool:

Tvrdi 05-18-2011 09:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ivo (Post 284729)
+1

that right.:cool:
then again with i7 gtx480 and 6 gigs of RAM this sim struggles sometimes (plane is in flame in front of you...above land on some areas etc)...then all the missing content....whining? call it what u like...the facts are here


while this poor sim struggles with performance on high end PCs, missing content, AA and ugly landscape ROF has new autumn textures for landscape....they can learn from them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4macu...embedded#at=67

Ze-Jamz 05-18-2011 09:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by klem (Post 284710)
Wow! Tuesday came and went and some poor guy simply expressed his disappointment at not seeing the update yet. Perhaps he thought someone else may have seen something he hadn't. Let's be honest, we're all wondering when....

I'm not sure what's worse, the simple expression of disappointment or the thread-gobbling self-righteous crud that followed it. To which I'm adding of course, but thats what threads are like aren't they?

Just a minute, let me get my asbestos suit on before you all start. Or maybe I'll go back to bed and get out the other side.
+1

Strange isnt it

RE77ACTION 05-18-2011 09:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 284734)
then again with i7 gtx480 and 6 gigs of RAM this sim struggles sometimes (plane is in flame in front of you...above land on some areas etc)...then all the missing content....whining? call it what u like...the facts are here


while this poor sim struggles with performance on high end PCs, missing content, AA and ugly landscape ROF has new autumn textures for landscape....they can learn from them:
Hey, this sim isn't perfect yet. But remember that every new generation of flight sims is at the edge of what current top end hardware can handle. It's always been this way.

I don't understand the complaining about the colors. The colors of the landscape are pretty accurate for this region in May or early June. When I look outside (south-west of The Netherlands) the grass is almost the same color (even after a very dry and sunny spring). And no, I don't have to calibrate my monitor because it's already a hardware calibrated IPS monitor. The brownish autumn colors in 'your video' would be too much for autumn in this region. At best the colors of the game need a little fine tuning, but nothing severe.

Winger 05-18-2011 09:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 284734)
then again with i7 gtx480 and 6 gigs of RAM this sim struggles sometimes (plane is in flame in front of you...above land on some areas etc)...then all the missing content....whining? call it what u like...the facts are here


while this poor sim struggles with performance on high end PCs, missing content, AA and ugly landscape ROF has new autumn textures for landscape....they can learn from them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4macu...embedded#at=67
ROF, at this time after realse at wich CloD is now, was no single fart better Tvrdi. Wait 2 Years and look at CloD then and i BET CloD will be much further than ROF is now.
I for my part at the moment enjoy 20mm and 800HP greatly over 7,62mm and 180 HP:)

Winger

Ibis 05-18-2011 10:01 AM
Patches, what patches?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ

MD_Titus 05-18-2011 10:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 283994)
The obvious? The obvious is just your opinion. Not everyone will agree with your views, so don't be arrogant enough to assume that they are correct.
Word

Tvrdi 05-18-2011 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winger (Post 284750)
ROF, at this time after realse at wich CloD is now, was no single fart better Tvrdi. Wait 2 Years and look at CloD then and i BET CloD will be much further than ROF is now.
I for my part at the moment enjoy 20mm and 800HP greatly over 7,62mm and 180 HP:)

Winger
winger, you know me, I will praise when deserved and criticize when, again - deserved....ROF was much more optimised than CLOD at release (few of us had stutters but that was solved later)....OK we will see what will be with CLOD in 2 yrs....

Quote:
Originally Posted by RE77ACTION (Post 284743)
H
I don't understand the complaining about the colors..
colors? Well not the colors but the vividness, saturation and brightnes....colors could be better but the earlier mentioned are the problem....and also the textures, trees are ugly, AA is not working properly...

Winger 05-18-2011 10:41 AM
I know Tvrdi. Just to clear up. By no means i intended to offend you. Got ugly quite too often in the ROF Forums:) Hopefully not here;)

Winger


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