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NEWGUY 01-28-2011 08:23 PM

My guess is that she is a flight instructor in COD. She looks smart, so I would say she could easily be an aeronautical engineer, but also a pilot.

RedToo 01-28-2011 08:28 PM

She's the Su 26 pilot.

professor 01-28-2011 08:28 PM

forget the game..The lady is just gorgeous

Is that old dude her father?

Necrobaron 01-28-2011 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 218129)
I'm the guy who hated the cheap love story tacked onto the 1969 film, but I love this particular angle of our sim. Trust me on this.

So there's a love story in the campaign? That's...interesting. I'd love to know more about CoD's campaign. Is it not dynamic?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 218111)
If you think that's lime green you've never owned a Kawasaki!:grin:

Landscape looks fine to me.
Colour perception is relative, so once you've flown around in midday sunshine for a while it'll look perfect.
I'm looking forward to seeing how the colour changes at different times of day, or on a long twilight mission.:)


Guilty as charged. I've never owned a Kawasaki. ;)

Maybe it's just been my monitor then. In most all of the past updates, the bright green color has always seemed too exaggerated to my eye (I thought the same in IL-2 but assumed Russia has tropical green terrain) but I never said anything since I assumed color was still being fine-tuned and tweaked and it is a bit of a nitpick. However, now that we're getting ever closer to the release date and the color looks more or less the same, I figured I'd voice my piece-right or wrong.

furbs 01-28-2011 08:49 PM

Alot of people think the same thing about the lime green fields...its the only thing i dont like.

Abbeville-Boy 01-28-2011 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by furbs (Post 218197)
Alot of people think the same thing about the lime green fields...its the only thing i dont like.


are you sure of your monitor
settings

Chivas 01-28-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendo65 (Post 218160)
That's great. Thanks. We're at the stage where we need to be flooded with info. ;)

Some thoughts: still the same clouds and weather in all the pics. I'm theorising that there's a reason for that and that they're being kept under wraps for the release? One of the 'surprises'?

Also, I know that with everyone's interest in how the terrain is developing (looks pretty good in today's shot) that we've been getting lots of low-level screenies. I was really blown away by how the terrain looked from high altitude in some of the Igromir screen pics - damned near photographic (see attachment).

Any chance of some high(er) altitude action?

Olegs last comments on the new clouds a couple of weeks ago suggested they were experiencing bugs so they weren't sure they would make the initial release of the Cliffs of Dover.

Avimimus 01-28-2011 09:12 PM

I think you're all crazy.

JG52Uther 01-28-2011 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avimimus (Post 218212)
I think you're all crazy.

Of course,thats why we are here!

Richie 01-28-2011 09:47 PM

1 Attachment(s)
I bet in the game that that hot girl is actually French or German, maybe some kind of spy or girlfriend.


QUOTE=Richie;196277]Ok.Do you want my story?...Of course you do.

Bob met Charlotte during the Battle of France. They fell madly in love. Sadly Bob had to return to England when the Germans took over France. For months some how they have kept in touch and in the thick of the Battle of Britain he has arranged to pick her up on the beach just out side of Calais so he can bring he back to England where they are to be married. Things seem to be going well at first......then................

Erich Rudorfer is flying back to JG 2 when he sees a Spitfire........ :)


To be continue spring of 2011[/QUOTE]

Watch at 1:18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCAHUxQgUfc

choctaw111 01-28-2011 10:39 PM

Thank you for the great screenshots.
I am REALLY looking forward to seeing the movies.

Kikuchiyo 01-28-2011 10:48 PM

Get a grip.
 
I've never understood this communities hang up with grass color. I don't live in the U.K., but the colors look fine for me for a mid spring to mid summer coloring. Graphics on a PC have not yet reached the point of photo realism, but this looks damn fine to me compared to the flying I've done in real life. The shade differences in fields, the colors all seem close enough to me. Lime green? I don't see anything close to lime green in any of these photos. You should step outside and look around during spring and summer rather than just looking at photos of outside. The clouds have always been impressive to me. They don't look like the photos of real clouds in other games, but they are volumetric and close enough to the real thing that I have always been suitably impressed. I honestly believe some of you need to step outside once in a while and experience the great outdoors. This community is so insular I have a hard time reading anything other than Oleg and Ilya's posts.

Oleg and the 1c Maddox team thank you for all the hard work you have done to make this, what is most likely the most realistic flight sim (combat or otherwise,) of all time. We all appreciate your hard works, and look forward to the masterpiece you have painstakingly, and sacrificed so much for.

Bearcat 01-28-2011 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 218129)
Folks,

1. The beautiful girl in the picture is not a cheap marketing ploy. You've all seen her before in the Spitfire from Igromir. She's the girl you'll all be flying with.
PS. I'm the guy who hated the cheap love story tacked onto the 1969 film, but I love this particular angle of our sim. Trust me on this.

I never thought she was.... Gorgeous? Absolutely (obviously) but just there to sell... Not 1C's style never has been never will be.

Quote:

2. If you expect something new every week, you kind of maybe expect too much at this point. We're going to drown you in videos in the coming weeks. The development diaries Oleg introduced you to will absolutely flood you with info on every single aspect of the sim. They're just not ready today.
Can't speak for anyone else .. but all I expect is CoD within the next 6-8 weeks. I have no doubt that it will be a quality product.. and that once it is released the same level of support that got my and most of these other bozos hooked on IL2 (in addition to the quality of the product) will continue.

Quote:

3. I still can't believe we're discussing tracers. I know it's our own fault for making them look like glowing sperm in the original and allowing you to get used to them. They're correct now. They're perfection. They're ideal. They'll never change. OK?
They look realistic to me..........

speculum jockey 01-28-2011 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 218139)
Hmmm... 'girl.....love....flood......tracers.......sperm.. ...perfection..'
It all sounds a bit too freudian for my sensibilities.

Looking forward to the vids though! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by professor (Post 218192)
forget the game..The lady is just gorgeous

Is that old dude her father?

Oh No! Sounds like some guys have some "tracer" stains to clean up!

Azimech 01-28-2011 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharveL (Post 218187)

LOL!

Jean-Luc comes to save the topic :mrgreen:

I learned something today:

If you don't wanna use words, use a Starfleet captain.

proton45 01-28-2011 11:50 PM

One thing that really impresses me in these up dates, is the sheer vastness of the visible distance, as seen in the landscape photos. I always felt that the true feeling of vast space was never properly simulated before. I guess that this will not be an issue anymore...

Thanks !!!

Old_Canuck 01-28-2011 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 218129)
Folks,

1. The beautiful girl in the picture is not a cheap marketing ploy. You've all seen her before in the Spitfire from Igromir. She's the girl you'll all be flying with.
PS. I'm the guy who hated the cheap love story tacked onto the 1969 film, but I love this particular angle of our sim. Trust me on this.

2. If you expect something new every week, you kind of maybe expect too much at this point. We're going to drown you in videos in the coming weeks. The development diaries Oleg introduced you to will absolutely flood you with info on every single aspect of the sim. They're just not ready today.

3. I still can't believe we're discussing tracers. I know it's our own fault for making them look like glowing sperm in the original and allowing you to get used to them. They're correct now. They're perfection. They're ideal. They'll never change. OK?

Ok.

Cloyd 01-29-2011 12:00 AM

Too funny SJ, I was thinking the same myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by speculum jockey (Post 218065)
To those of you who are totally astonished about this Friday's update. Here's a little trick to help you out. . .

1. Go to Google.

2. Click on Image Search.

3. Type in "Woman". (without quotations)

4. Voila! Pictures of women!

Next time there is a person of the female persuation in a Friday update you don't have to totally embarrass yourselves due to the shock of seeing one.

Edit: Luthier! Is that some DX11 style tessellation I'm seeing in your jeans just below the belt line?


dflion 01-29-2011 12:15 AM

Thanks Ilya for the group photo explanation, we will all be looking forward to flying with her.

The pics look great especially the 'ambush' scenario and thats what really did happen. The tracers also look perfect, trust me, I have seen the real thing many, many times.

Looking forward to your video releases, leading up to the main release, plus as much info as you can give us, especially on mission building.

I was very sad to here, then see pics of the Moscow airport bombing, sadly the whole world is prone to these cowardly attacks.

DFLion

Freycinet 01-29-2011 01:03 AM

Luthier, I pre-ordered the Collector'S Edition from Amazon.de, but then cancelled my order because I got in doubt whether it was a German-language edition. Can you tell me whether you already now have different language editions, or whether the one on Amazon.de will be wholly in English, as I want?

http://www.amazon.de/2-Sturmovik-Cli.../dp/B004JM5C62

swiss 01-29-2011 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freycinet (Post 218293)
Luthier, I pre-ordered the Collector'S Edition from Amazon.de, but then cancelled my order because I got in doubt whether it was a German-language edition. Can you tell me whether you already now have different language editions, or whether the one on Amazon.de will be wholly in English, as I want?

http://www.amazon.de/2-Sturmovik-Cli.../dp/B004JM5C62

luthier now works Amazon?

LukeFF 01-29-2011 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanner (Post 218303)
You folks are clueless, CLUELESS, as to what is the norm in games development. Get a clue before you comment on how great these updates are that are not updates at all.

Yes, yes, Oleg is totally clueless as to how to post a development update. Someone send him the news, stat!

:rolleyes:

Foo'bar 01-29-2011 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kikuchiyo (Post 218250)
I've never understood this communities hang up with grass color. I don't live in the U.K., but the colors look fine for me for a mid spring to mid summer coloring. Graphics on a PC have not yet reached the point of photo realism, but this looks damn fine to me compared to the flying I've done in real life. The shade differences in fields, the colors all seem close enough to me. Lime green? I don't see anything close to lime green in any of these photos. You should step outside and look around during spring and summer rather than just looking at photos of outside. The clouds have always been impressive to me. They don't look like the photos of real clouds in other games, but they are volumetric and close enough to the real thing that I have always been suitably impressed. I honestly believe some of you need to step outside once in a while and experience the great outdoors. This community is so insular I have a hard time reading anything other than Oleg and Ilya's posts.

Oleg and the 1c Maddox team thank you for all the hard work you have done to make this, what is most likely the most realistic flight sim (combat or otherwise,) of all time. We all appreciate your hard works, and look forward to the masterpiece you have painstakingly, and sacrificed so much for.

Amen.

kimosabi 01-29-2011 07:17 AM

Wow flaming. When are we back to talking about the brunette? I like brunettes.

ATAG_Bliss 01-29-2011 07:38 AM

Just look at Tanner's previous posts. It appears Tanner is holding a grudge for some reason and for someone that joined this forum in 2008, you'd hope he'd have 1/2 a clue how Oleg does his updates. Guess not.

Anyhow, last time I checked IL2 was the most successful WWII sim ever created, if not the most successful combat sim ever made, and is still going strong 10 years in the running. Seems like Oleg's pretty clueless to me lol. I'd say that Oleg knows more about development than Tanner ever will. I guess some people just don't get it.

Anyhow, thanks for the update Oleg. We all can't wait to get our hands on this new title.

@Jaws - I'll be your wingman - 2 vs the entire Luftwaffe :D

Chivas 01-29-2011 07:41 AM

There is no getting away from having a certain percentage of wacko's, in any community.

Necrobaron 01-29-2011 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kikuchiyo (Post 218250)
I've never understood this communities hang up with grass color. I don't live in the U.K., but the colors look fine for me for a mid spring to mid summer coloring. Graphics on a PC have not yet reached the point of photo realism, but this looks damn fine to me compared to the flying I've done in real life. The shade differences in fields, the colors all seem close enough to me. Lime green? I don't see anything close to lime green in any of these photos. You should step outside and look around during spring and summer rather than just looking at photos of outside. The clouds have always been impressive to me. They don't look like the photos of real clouds in other games, but they are volumetric and close enough to the real thing that I have always been suitably impressed. I honestly believe some of you need to step outside once in a while and experience the great outdoors. This community is so insular I have a hard time reading anything other than Oleg and Ilya's posts.

Oleg and the 1c Maddox team thank you for all the hard work you have done to make this, what is most likely the most realistic flight sim (combat or otherwise,) of all time. We all appreciate your hard works, and look forward to the masterpiece you have painstakingly, and sacrificed so much for.

Not sure what to say. You do know what lime green looks like right? I'll concede that to say it's lime green is a bit of an exaggeration but it isn't far removed from it. The entire terrain palatte that I'm seeing is simply too light to my eye and almost has a yellow exposure to it. As I said before, maybe it's just my monitor but the notion that some of us don't know what the outdoors looks like is absurd.

Tvrdi 01-29-2011 08:43 AM

now I must buy the f-in civilisation 3!

@KIMOSABI - unge, did u ever.....used ur sausage?

Crane 01-29-2011 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrobaron (Post 218341)
Not sure what to say. You do know what lime green looks like right? I'll concede that to say it's lime green is a bit of an exaggeration but it isn't far removed from it. The entire terrain palatte that I'm seeing is simply too light to my eye and almost has a yellow exposure to it. As I said before, maybe it's just my monitor but the notion that some of us don't know what the outdoors looks like is absurd.

100% correct, the terrain is far too light for England, also the layout of English villages is way off. :grin:

Sven 01-29-2011 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crane (Post 218348)
100% correct, the terrain is far too light for England, also the layout of English villages is way off. :grin:

I have to agree here as well, I've been a couple of times in England, but the ground colours look too Mediterranean the way I look at it, closer to Southern France than England, I seem to remember England as slightly darker green and more green overall.

Foo'bar 01-29-2011 09:02 AM

I don't know much of england's vegetation in spring, but what for God's sake is so special there and different to other european countries? For me the colors look totally right for any ordinary middle european springtime country, if france, germany or anywhere else.

Please let me know why england's green should look different to other european greens? :rolleyes:

Sven 01-29-2011 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foo'bar (Post 218351)
I don't know much of england's vegetation in spring, but what for God's sake is so special there and different to other european countries? For me the colors look totally right for any ordinary middle european springtime country, if france, germany or anywhere else.

Please let me know why england's green should look different to other european greens? :rolleyes:

It's much drier in Spain/France and you'll see more lighter colours, not only because there is somewhat less vegatation, but also due to to dry ground, which makes the overall picture more lighter than England, it's not miles off, no no no, but I still hold my opinion that it looks to light overall, but I think ingame settings such as brightness will easily correct it!

Mr Darcy 01-29-2011 09:09 AM

Colours look fine to me for English fields in bright sunlight.

Kikuchiyo 01-29-2011 09:16 AM

Lime green is a very bright brilliant green. Look at a lime. It's a very particular almost neon color. look at grass it is a very dark or yellowish color, and I mean look at a real lime not a picture of a lime. It is a very peculiar green, nothing like any of the colors I see in the pallete in the colors of any screen shots of Storm of War's/Ciffs of Dover's screen shots.

Insuber 01-29-2011 09:29 AM

As I see it, and thinking to the "features that didn't make it to the release", I'm afraid it will take another year or two to get a product close to the developers' original plans, much like ROF - and the color of grass will be in perspective a very minor issue. I will nevertheless support this strategy by purchasing whatever Ilya and Oleg will market, despite the probable frustrations. ROF was a nice product anyway, even in the early stages...

Cheers,
6S.Insuber

Coen020 01-29-2011 09:34 AM

3 Attachment(s)
Different landscape colours

1st: Enland, near London

2nd: France (probably North)

Feathered_IV 01-29-2011 09:36 AM

One jagged screenshot here is worth more to me than a show and tell from six titles I couldn't give a rats arse about.

Tacoma74 01-29-2011 09:38 AM

Jeez... I'm getting so tired of hearing the same crap every week, and having to dig through pages of useless information. The pessimism here is substantial, and quite frankly it annoys me. Constructive discussion is a thing of the past. It seems to me that few actually appreciate what Oleg has been doing for the past 5 years with this. The game is in its final stage before release, so stop going on and on with these same topics of clouds and landscape and other nonsense. Your beating a dead horse, we've all heard it a million times before. It may seem a big issue to some of you, but really it's not. It's a game, it's not reality. Besides, everything as of now is final. Nothing will be changed at your will, so get over yourselves. And besides, none of you (I don't care who you are) have seen the final product, so making assumptions about how bad it's going to be is pointless... I have nothing but faith in this sim! The whole developer team deserves our respect. It's no wonder why Luthier got a little irritable earlier, and why Oleg doesn't stick around to answer questions after posting updates anymore. I'm sure they are sick of dealing with people that are unpleasable.

I used to enjoy Friday updates, but now i could care less... the whining surely takes the excitement out of seeing them. Everyone should be happy!!! I mean c'mon, this is going to kill every other flight sim out there... and it's going to be on our systems in less than 2 months. Be patient and don't let the anticipation get to you!!

As for me.. well I'm just going to do other things for awhile. I'm just going to walk away. You guys drive me insane. Seriously. I'll see you in the skys in a couple months. Peace!

Kikuchiyo 01-29-2011 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coen020 (Post 218365)
Different landscape colours

1st: Enland, near London

2nd: France (probably North)

Good job picking photos for late afternoon early evening, and for ignoring the fact that photos are a poor comparison for the eye's ability to view color. I've said it several times in just the 2 posts I've made go outside and look around. Photos do no justice to color of the real world, and look around at various times of the day. Colors are darker when the sun is low, and brighter when it is high.

At any rate I know most of you will never be appeased by anything, and that is sorrowful. Enjoy the sim, and know that it will never be the same as real life for a multitude of reasons. It will be the best possible product with the technological limitations of today.

Okay I see what you meant. Thank you for the clarification Coen I wasn't going to argue the point much further.

Coen020 01-29-2011 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kikuchiyo (Post 218371)
Good job picking photos for late afternoon early evening, and for ignoring the fact that photos are a poor comparison for the eye's ability to view color. I've said it several times in just the 2 posts I've made go outside and look around. Photos do no justice to color of the real world, and look around at various times of the day. Colors are darker when the sun is low, and brighter when it is high.

you dont get my point, i actually think the england shot is pretty similar to the hurricane screen.

the french landscape color only differs slight, but that is because its a afternoon shot, like you said. And let me sniff up the Bf110 shot that lurks around here for the afternoon shot.

now compare this one to the French afternoon shot. its almost the same if you look a bit in the distance of the bf110 shot.
(EDIT: it seems more likely that they are both in morning, so yeah.)

http://assets.vg247.com/current//201...2COD_S_002.jpg

philip.ed 01-29-2011 09:53 AM

As much as I agree with regards to the comments on the colours not being final or down to monitor colour, the colours do look too green to me.
One has to remember that the BoB had a very hot summer, so the green colour will verge more on brown. The picture from LIFE magazine (of the spitfire) demonstrates this well.
Either way, I'm sure the team has got the point by now, so let's just wait for the release. Then we can truly comment.
But definately, I think England should have a burnished look. Maybe in the future such features could be incorporated into the weather model? Who knows ;)
Nice update, and thanks, Oleg, Luhier and co, for doing a sterling job in keeping us updated.

Coen020 01-29-2011 10:00 AM

surely, if it's to much lime for most, nothing a patch wont fix? or atleast a mod or something from some of the talented people lurking between us?

sorry, 'Lurking' is my word for today.

Freycinet 01-29-2011 10:04 AM

Oh, yes, we need better updates, just like today's from the Microsoft Flight team. Their first update since December 10 by the way:

http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/

"January 28, 2011 − Play online or offline, the choice is yours.

Greetings to all Flight fans! We would like to welcome you to our January “News from the Team” addition. First off, we hope you like the screen shots. We are happy to be able to share with you another check point in the development process. We are all working hard to bring you a truly exciting experience.

We continue to receive and enjoy all your emails and comments via the Tell Microsoft Flight email alias. Although we cannot reply to each and every one, we do read these and appreciate the comments and suggestions.

One topic that has been voiced is the concern over online game play. We understand some people are worried that featuring Microsoft Flight on Games for Windows – LIVE will require you to always be connected online to play. Not true. Rest assured that you can play offline if you choose. We hope that you will find the connected experience to be more enjoyable and immersive. But to be clear, the choice will be all yours.

Thank you again for following our progress as we pass another waypoint.

The Microsoft Flight Development Team"



Or, as Oleg would have said it:



"You can fly offline, online".



- Then we also get four screenies of about one-tenth the size of Oleg's. Or, well, we get four images of some sort. WE don't really know if they are screenies or whether they are photoshopped or whether they are rendered during half an hour of bit-crunching. As opposed to being told that they are done on an old crappy machine as Luthier tells us about the Il-2:CoD screenies.

And then there is no more interaction with the MS Flight development team at all. We don't even know their names. No forum, no threads, no postings, no replies of any kind anywhere. As opposed to Oleg and Ilya who masochistically dredge their way through endless pages of mindnumbing drivel and interact in a constantly friendly manner.

That won't go on of course, given the total take-over of the 1C update threads by idiots. But it was really nice for as long as it lasted.

Voilà the difference between "real" updates and the usual stuff other developers feed their fans.

kimosabi 01-29-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 218344)
@KIMOSABI - unge, did u ever.....used ur sausage?

Aaaww how sweet, Tvrdi is still disappointed after I told him to stay off my PM in the RoF forums. LOL

Sutts 01-29-2011 10:49 AM

Oleg has spoken of a future map editor to allow players to create small maps. Does anyone know if he's ever mentioned being able to modify the stock maps at all?

Something like that would be very powerful...just imagine what could be done if the community worked together on the UK map with separate teams with local knowledge taking on specific areas of interest. Obviously there would have to be rules and strict guidelines on object density. The same goes for airfields. There are plenty of folks with a deep knowledge of specific airfields who could create ultra historical airfield layouts, something I doubt the development team have much time for in the big scheme of things.

I'm looking forward to later releases when the bomber airfields of East Anglia get some attention. I have some favourites that I've walked around many times. I like to stand on the crumbling peri tracks and try to picture the scene with 30 4 engined heavies, engines running and waiting for take off and the frenetic activity all around. This is the kind of thing that really excites me about CoD...being able to recreate all that history and see it come alive on the screen. A link to the past.

ECV56_Lancelot 01-29-2011 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kikuchiyo (Post 218334)
I've never understood this communities hang up with grass color. I don't live in the U.K., but the colors look fine for me for a mid spring to mid summer coloring. Graphics on a PC have not yet reached the point of photo realism, but this looks damn fine to me compared to the flying I've done in real life. The shade differences in fields, the colors all seem close enough to me. Lime green? I don't see anything close to lime green in any of these photos. You should step outside and look around during spring and summer rather than just looking at photos of outside. The clouds have always been impressive to me. They don't look like the photos of real clouds in other games, but they are volumetric and close enough to the real thing that I have always been suitably impressed. I honestly believe some of you need to step outside once in a while and experience the great outdoors. This community is so insular I have a hard time reading anything other than Oleg and Ilya's posts.

Oleg and the 1c Maddox team thank you for all the hard work you have done to make this, what is most likely the most realistic flight sim (combat or otherwise,) of all time. We all appreciate your hard works, and look forward to the masterpiece you have painstakingly, and sacrificed so much for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foo'bar (Post 218334)
Amen.

+2

Deadstick 01-29-2011 12:15 PM

Thanks for the update!:grin:

winny 01-29-2011 12:47 PM

Nothing in that Hurricane shot is the right colour. Not the roundels, or the paint scheme or the grass or the gun covers. Why's nobody complaining about the Aircraft? I've never seen a hurricane that washed out.

But,
I've said it before, it's an overall Saturation/Contrast thing not just the terrain.
It's a purley artistic call too. All the screen shots tell me is that it's not finished yet.

jcenzano 01-29-2011 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coen020 (Post 218365)
Different landscape colours

1st: Enland, near London

2nd: France (probably North)

and what makes you thing those are the real colors??

Colors in pictures depend on several things such as exposure, lense type and fliters used, film/sensor used, and so on...

So just one picture is not relevant at all. Download 50 different pisc and you will see 50 different tones... none of them yet to be true.

Plus your monitor calibration...

Foo'bar 01-29-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcenzano (Post 218420)
and what makes you thing those are the real colors??

Colors in pictures depend on several things such as exposure, lense type and fliters used, film/sensor used, and so on...

So just one picture is not relevant at all. Download 50 different pisc and you will see 50 different tones... none of them yet to be true.

Plus your monitor calibration...

Right. We don't even know at witch season the pictures were taken. For me some of the brownish fields look like late summer when it is clear to have darker green tones.

Trumper 01-29-2011 01:25 PM

:) I find it rather ironic that the people arguing on here about the colours in England aren't even living in England LOL.

Foo'bar 01-29-2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumper (Post 218427)
:) I find it rather ironic that the people arguing on here about the colours in England aren't even living in England LOL.


Well even some english arguing on here about the colours of the Messerschmitts ;) I don't have to live on that island to know that the colours there aren't something special or unique.

SlipBall 01-29-2011 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 218129)
Folks,

1. The beautiful girl in the picture is not a cheap marketing ploy. You've all seen her before in the Spitfire from Igromir. She's the girl you'll all be flying with.
PS. I'm the guy who hated the cheap love story tacked onto the 1969 film, but I love this particular angle of our sim. Trust me on this.


Well OK, as long as she doesn't announce "I'll drive"

Kittle 01-29-2011 01:48 PM

Great update folks, keep up the outstanding work! And yes, seeing a women in a flight sim forum is compareable to seeing the abomitable snowman in Bermuda, so the shock and awe factor has to be figured in here ;)

kalimba 01-29-2011 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 218363)
As I see it, and thinking to the "features that didn't make it to the release", I'm afraid it will take another year or two to get a product close to the developers' original plans, much like ROF - and the color of grass will be in perspective a very minor issue. I will nevertheless support this strategy by purchasing whatever Ilya and Oleg will market, despite the probable frustrations. ROF was a nice product anyway, even in the early stages...

Cheers,
6S.Insuber

I think that what Oleg meant by "features that will not make it to the release", are features that we dont even know about, or have not even be shown as WIP...
Oleg would release CoD with poor terrain and clouds ? With wrong colors and textures ? Not as good or better than BoP in these matters ? :confused:
The whole sim community around the world is waiting for this game to come out, and expectations are so high, that every little flaw will be criticized, scrutinized and put in the "faillure folder" till everyone only talks about what is NOT in the game....Oleg knows all that...Don't worry...He's been reading every comment on this forum from the very start...:rolleyes:

Salute !

Crane 01-29-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalimba (Post 218434)
I think that what Oleg meant by "features that will not make it to the release", are features that we dont even know about, or have not even be shown as WIP...
Oleg would release CoD with poor terrain and clouds ? With wrong colors and textures ? Not as good or better than BoP in these matters ? :confused:
The whole sim community around the world is waiting for this game to come out, and expectations are so high, that every little flaw will be criticized, scrutinized and put in the "faillure folder" till everyone only talks about what is NOT in the game....Oleg knows all that...Don't worry...He's been reading every comment on this forum from the very start...:rolleyes:

Salute !

Well luthier is being very cautious about what features have been left out, but my guess is it will be all those extra special things that Oleg first got us excited about in early interviews. The dropped features maybe the hidden surprise that we have all been expecting, a surprise isnt always a good thing :grin:

My guess is that the following will be missing.


DX11- Oleg 100% confirmed this would be in the game but it failed to make the final cut.

Manned AA guns - been no mention of this since early interviews and no screenshots showing any manual use of an AA gun.

Dynamic weather - again this as dropped off the radar and veiled in secrecy which means its most likely not going to make initial release

Clouds - Again another mystery

Sounds - Nobody has got a clue as to what the aircraft sounds will be like.

kalimba 01-29-2011 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crane (Post 218441)
Well luthier is being very cautious about what features have been left out, but my guess is it will be all those extra special things that Oleg first got us excited about in early interviews. The dropped features maybe the hidden surprise that we have all been expecting, a surprise isnt always a good thing :grin:

My guess is that the following will be missing.


DX11- Oleg 100% confirmed this would be in the game but it failed to make the final cut.

Manned AA guns - been no mention of this since early interviews and no screenshots showing any manual use of an AA gun.

Dynamic weather - again this as dropped off the radar and veiled in secrecy which means its most likely not going to make initial release

Clouds - Again another mystery

Sounds - Nobody has got a clue as to what the aircraft sounds will be like.

Interesting debate indeed !

1-DX11- Oleg 100% confirmed this would be in the game but it failed to make the final cut.

Well, knowing how cautious Oleg is, if he confirmed, so will be...


2-Manned AA guns - been no mention of this since early interviews and no screenshots showing any manual use of an AA gun.

On this one, I agree...Wont be at release...


3-Dynamic weather - again this as dropped off the radar and veiled in secrecy which means its most likely not going to make initial release

I think this is a main feature that Oleg has been working on since the very begining ...Was even shown on an early promo video.....IMHO, will be at release....


4-Clouds - Again another mystery

Same as # 3:I think this is a main feature that Oleg has been working on since the very begining ...Was even shown on an early promo video.....IMHO, will be at release....

Of course, this is for fun and only speculating ! ;)

Salute !

David198502 01-29-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 218367)
One jagged screenshot here is worth more to me than a show and tell from six titles I couldn't give a rats arse about.

i couldnt say it better!!

Meusli 01-29-2011 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foo'bar (Post 218428)
Well even some english arguing on here about the colours of the Messerschmitts ;) I don't have to live on that island to know that the colours there aren't something special or unique.


I am colour blind green and red so imagine how I feel about the daft arguments concerning colour. As long as they are not purple.

Aquarius 01-29-2011 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 218169)
Exactly, glad you guys noticed!

I've flown a few missions where I attacked an enemy formation from their six and shot down several planes in a row, with no one breaking off. Almost felt wrong, like this is a bug and I should run to the AI programmer and tell him, what the hell is wrong with you!

And then I would realize that this is perfect, that this is exactly how it was.

One of the very few cases when a developer is justifiably proud of his Artificial Intelligence being dumb!

PS. This all of course depends on AI skill level.

Very nice to hear that!...I always like those moments of suprise in books with dogfight...expect, that allied AI will have the same features:))...hope, that i can be looking forward to experience that freezing moment, when I look behind me and find out that half of my flight is in flames!

Defender 01-29-2011 03:16 PM

Looking forward to everything....

whatnot 01-29-2011 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 218169)
Exactly, glad you guys noticed!

I've flown a few missions where I attacked an enemy formation from their six and shot down several planes in a row, with no one breaking off. Almost felt wrong, like this is a bug and I should run to the AI programmer and tell him, what the hell is wrong with you!

And then I would realize that this is perfect, that this is exactly how it was.

One of the very few cases when a developer is justifiably proud of his Artificial Intelligence being dumb!

PS. This all of course depends on AI skill level.

Can you elaborate how AI is detecting bogies? Is it using some FOV scanning routine.. meaning does AI actually have a direction they're looking into based on which they detect only the planes in that cone of sight? Or is it just some function related to proximity etc?

Also will they be making manouvres when flying formation on higher skill levels to scan their six every now and then?

The ground shot is just beautiful in my eyes! My first days of CoD will be just sightseeing high and low, getting the a feel of the new flight dynamics and our new sandbox!
OMG! I can't believe we're this close.. getting a delay beyond March at this stage would probably mean news articles about spontanious simultanious suicides around the globe. ;-)

Trumper 01-29-2011 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foo'bar (Post 218428)
Well even some english arguing on here about the colours of the Messerschmitts ;) I don't have to live on that island to know that the colours there aren't something special or unique.

Aircraft have a colour that can be matched,paint colour numbers etc,but the argument you make doesn't make sense.
We did have more 109's flying over here a few years ago than you had in Germany.
So by your logic the English countryside is no different to parts of Germany.I can't and wouldn't comment on that as i have never been there.
As i live in the UK i do feel that we would recognise when something doesn't quite feel like home.
Don't forget the UK is a small varied island in a short [mileage wise] distance you can go from the Downs,>Estuary's,,>flat Fen land and mountainous areas but the BoB was fought over quite a small scale area.
That needs to be made to feel and look correct.:)
It's NOT Spain,Holland ,Germany or France it's England.

heywooood 01-29-2011 03:49 PM

this is fun - I have missed the hilarity of weekly update threads more than I had thought.

tracer whine - AA whine - Limey whine - is that all you've got whine - who's the girl whine -

Ilya - please cancel the project...too much whine
..but please keep posting 'glowing sperm tracer' rebuttals - ow my sides from laughing

Foo'bar 01-29-2011 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumper (Post 218463)
Aircraft have a colour that can be matched,paint colour numbers etc,but the argument you make doesn't make sense.
We did have more 109's flying over here a few years ago than you had in Germany.
So by your logic the English countryside is no different to parts of Germany.I can't and wouldn't comment on that as i have never been there.
As i live in the UK i do feel that we would recognise when something doesn't quite feel like home.
Don't forget the UK is a small varied island in a short [mileage wise] distance you can go from the Downs,>Estuary's,,>flat Fen land and mountainous areas but the BoB was fought over quite a small scale area.
That needs to be made to feel and look correct.:)
It's NOT Spain,Holland ,Germany or France it's England.


Believe me or not, the green in england in spring is the same ordinary green as in northern Germany in spring. In april the green is brighter and fresher, in october it is darker and more greyish. I never recognized any difference when I went to Ipswich either in april or october. And I went a couple of times.

nearmiss 01-29-2011 04:11 PM

I just deleted over 12 postings in response to a negative blasting by Tanner.

Please report postings such as his. Mods are interested to keep a positive tone and dialogue in the update threads, in order to have sensible discussions with developer.

COD is close to release and we should have cranks and troublemakers seeking attention. They will post some pretty lousy stuff.

Just report them and we will deal with them.

Skarphol 01-29-2011 04:26 PM

One thing I haven't noticed before:

See how the fabric of the aileron is hanging in the wind?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/...ol/Aileron.jpg
Cool!

Wonder how that looks after the plane has landed..

Skarphol

Trumper 01-29-2011 05:35 PM

:) Hi Foobar, i guess we will see when it is out,the proof will be in the pudding.:)
Generally it is quite a lush green over here ,lots of moisture .We do have dry spells where the grass can go brown after a few weeks without rain but that isn't too normal.
I started looking for the weather forecasts during the BoB and came across this fascinating web site,unfortunately i have to go to work so won't have time to read it but looks brilliant.
http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/631...weather-diary/ hope others like it.:)
I guess the discussion over colours is all down to individual beliefs ,my comments were made because of the irony of the arguments being made by people who don't live here LOL. :)

Insuber 01-29-2011 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalimba (Post 218434)
I think that what Oleg meant by "features that will not make it to the release", are features that we dont even know about, or have not even be shown as WIP...
Oleg would release CoD with poor terrain and clouds ? With wrong colors and textures ? Not as good or better than BoP in these matters ? :confused:
The whole sim community around the world is waiting for this game to come out, and expectations are so high, that every little flaw will be criticized, scrutinized and put in the "faillure folder" till everyone only talks about what is NOT in the game....Oleg knows all that...Don't worry...He's been reading every comment on this forum from the very start...:rolleyes:

Salute !

Kalimba - to be more clear and direct, I expect a strategy "à la ROF". I hope to be wrong, but I'm afraid we will get a product not entirely finished nor entirely debugged. No problem: as I said some time ago here, I prefer a premature issue, and then corrections done and paid with the help of the community, than another year of wait.

Cheers,
6S.Insuber

TheGrunch 01-29-2011 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freycinet (Post 218380)
- Then we also get four screenies of about one-tenth the size of Oleg's. Or, well, we get four images of some sort. WE don't really know if they are screenies or whether they are photoshopped or whether they are rendered during half an hour of bit-crunching. As opposed to being told that they are done on an old crappy machine as Luthier tells us about the Il-2:CoD screenies.

Plus, you also have to have Microsoft Silverlight (i.e., lame Flash knock-off made obsolete by HTML5) installed to even view the update. Voila, there's one person (me) who immediately can't be bothered with said update at all. :rolleyes:

Rot Bourratif 01-29-2011 05:57 PM

Is it just me?

Everytime there's a cockpit view, I try to look around using the mouse...
I am so looking forward to this game!

And for all the effort put in so far: Spassiba bolchoi.

Richie 01-29-2011 06:01 PM

I think all the people over in simhq should register over here. They complain about things and say this and that is wrong but some of them don't have a clue what's really going on and you have to copy stuff from here and paste over there. I guess they can read this stuff but they can't see the pictures. The pictures are never the less always posted over there but still they seem to have no knowledge of where to look for all of the facts. I mean they should stay registered over in simhq but if they want as much info as possible on this series it just makes common senses to be registered over here too right?

Matt255 01-29-2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Is it just me?

Everytime there's a cockpit view, I try to look around using the mouse
Since i use Freetrack, i can find myself turning my head to look around when watching some videos or screenshots.:)

ECV56_Lancelot 01-29-2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 218493)
Kalimba - to be more clear and direct, I expect a strategy "à la ROF". I hope to be wrong, but I'm afraid we will get a product not entirely finished nor entirely debugged. No problem: as I said some time ago here, I prefer a premature issue, and then corrections done and paid with the help of the community, than another year of wait.

Cheers,
6S.Insuber

Even if is all speculation. i hope you are wrong. Buggy games, being simulator or any other kind of game, are a complete invitation to failure. I hate bugged sims released early, they do more damage than good, and makes more people to go away from that sim that to bring new people. Most casual simmers that buy a buggy sim, will discard it shortly after playing with it a little while and never look back to the sim, doesn't motter of patches and addon released afterward. And at the same time you will have a lot of mouth to mouth bad reviews that will decrease sells.
I agree on supporting simulator developers, but i dont agree on supporting bad quality products, simulator or not. And i'm not talking about not having dx11, or bigger maps, or better textures, i'm only talking about plain simple software bugs that totaly kill immersion, and in many cases playability of the sim.
Because of bugs, being myself a hardcore freak for flight simulators, on its moment i run away from my beloved Falcon4, and returning to play it again when F4:AF came out and i knew that finally F4 was stable and worked really well on multiplayer. I was so tired of F4 multiplayer inestabilty that i replaced it completely for the original IL-2, that worked like a charm the moment it came out.

So resumming, i dont care if they left things for being added later (ground crew, dx11, especial effects, more sounds, an so on), but i do care that the product comes out as debugged as possible, and if it require six months or more of polishing and debugging, so be it, but release a quality well finnished product. Otherwise it will make more damage than good to the genre.

kalimba 01-29-2011 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ECV56_Lancelot (Post 218509)
Even if is all speculation. i hope you are wrong. Buggy games, being simulator or any other kind of game, are a complete invitation to failure. I hate bugged sims released early, they do more damage than good, and makes more people to go away from that sim that to bring new people. Most casual simmers that buy a buggy sim, will discard it shortly after playing with it a little while and never look back to the sim, doesn't motter of patches and addon released afterward. And at the same time you will have a lot of mouth to mouth bad reviews that will decrease sells.
I agree on supporting simulator developers, but i dont agree on supporting bad quality products, simulator or not. And i'm not talking about not having dx11, or bigger maps, or better textures, i'm only talking about plain simple software bugs that totaly kill immersion, and in many cases playability of the sim.
Because of bugs, being myself a hardcore freak for flight simulators, on its moment i run away from my beloved Falcon4, and returning to play it again when F4:AF came out and i knew that finally F4 was stable and worked really well on multiplayer. I was so tired of F4 multiplayer inestabilty that i replaced it completely for the original IL-2, that worked like a charm the moment it came out.

So resumming, i dont care if they left things for being added later (ground crew, dx11, especial effects, more sounds, an so on), but i do care that the product comes out as debugged as possible, and if it require six months or more of polishing and debugging, so be it, but release a quality well finnished product. Otherwise it will make more damage than good to the genre.

Well, how many times was CoD's release date pushed back 6 months ? ;)
We've been there..Now its time to deliver...It is Oleg's game after all..It will be complete, debugged and photorealistic in every important aspect.
That is why it took 6 years to make...:grin:

Salute !

Foo'bar 01-29-2011 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumper (Post 218492)
:) Hi Foobar, i guess we will see when it is out,the proof will be in the pudding.:)
Generally it is quite a lush green over here ,lots of moisture .We do have dry spells where the grass can go brown after a few weeks without rain but that isn't too normal.
I started looking for the weather forecasts during the BoB and came across this fascinating web site,unfortunately i have to go to work so won't have time to read it but looks brilliant.
http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/631...weather-diary/ hope others like it.:)
I guess the discussion over colours is all down to individual beliefs ,my comments were made because of the irony of the arguments being made by people who don't live here LOL. :)

Peace, mate :)

major_setback 01-29-2011 08:19 PM

I personally think the greens we saw in this weeks update are the best so far. They have been toned down. I don't mind a bit more saturation myself actually.

I think the shade of green has been wrong in the past though, and people are confusing the issue. Too strong a colour when it is the wrong colour looks awful.
The shade has improved a bit this week though, and less saturation helps.

I think it will gradually be improved though...the video shows pefectly acceptable colours to me.


Sun actually makes greens look bright ...take a look out of the window in a month or two and you will be shocked!

http://www.planetware.com/i/photo/gr...ands-sl125.jpg

Those photos posted showing darker greens are underexposed (dark), wrong season, and look incorrect.

I agree that some of the textures have wildly bright greens of the wrong shade when seen close up.


...Perfection might take a week or so longer than we can wait.

major_setback 01-29-2011 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avimimus (Post 218212)
I think you're all crazy.

We all think you're crazy!!
:-)

Friendly_flyer 01-29-2011 08:45 PM

Regarding "the green":

I am a biologist by trade, and have been involved in making an educational film covering a whole year. Here in Norway, where the seasonal changes are quite distinct, the tone of colour, particularly for open grassland and fields, will change enormously throughout the season, not to mention what difference sunlight and moisture will do on a shorter time-scale. Colours can be almost painfully vibrant in the spring, turning duller as the year progress.

Also, not two years are the same. The little educational film I mentioned was shot over two years. The first year was cold and a bit rainy with a late spring. The meadow featuring in the film took forever to bloom, and was nicely green well into the autumn. The next year was hot and dry with an early spring, and the meadow turned brownish already in early June, to the directors great frustration. To shoot bits we had bugged up the year before, we would wait for the occasional rain and head out the day after to take advantage of the short lived resurgence of green that it produced. Needless to say, colour-balancing the film afterwards was a nightmare.

Richie 01-29-2011 09:56 PM

Last summer where I live was very wet compared to what it's usually like and the landscape was much greener.

Gomer Pyle 01-29-2011 10:34 PM

Maybe the grass should just be left as is, seeing that there are so many variables. It will either never be the right color/hue or it will be just one plausible rendition out of many - It'll just have to be up to the eyes looking. After reading about Petters film project, I for one am ready to put this grass in my pipe and smoke it.

/Daniel

major_setback 01-29-2011 11:15 PM

Green:

http://bilder.alltinggratis.se/bilder/692.jpeg

http://bilder.alltinggratis.se/bilder/1068.jpeg

http://bilder.alltinggratis.se/bilder/333.jpeg

Pictures are from this free site:

http://bilder.alltinggratis.se/

Skoshi Tiger 01-30-2011 02:31 AM

What! Oleg hasn't modelled the dew drops sparkling in the morning sunlight!

I'm giving up and playing solitare instead!

;)

tagTaken2 01-30-2011 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 218174)
This is actually an absolutely awesome idea.

We should make this an easter egg in our Pilot Options, where you can dress up your little guy in all sorts of clothing. The game will randomly decide that "item x" is your lucky item. It will not tell you that. Whenever you fly without it, bad things will happen to your plane.

Forget dressing the guy, will there be outfits for the girl?

Not sure why we're focusing on the colour of England...

onlyforbrian 01-30-2011 05:34 AM

What happened to the mustache Oleg? As for the girl...I've been to Moscow many times, my wife is Russian in Moscow...ALL Moscow women look like this...beautiful!!

Trumper 01-30-2011 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foo'bar (Post 218536)
Peace, mate :)

:) Agreed Peace and best wishes :)

philip.ed 01-30-2011 12:26 PM

Discussing wetness is pointless at this stage. The landscape of England in CoD should represent how it would have looked in 1940. In other wrods, burnished, dry, and extremely hot.
I'm sure monitor tweaking could have an effect, but why should most users have to do that? Why can't the product be shipped out as perfect as possible? Clearly many UK residents, like myself, view these shots as anything but Blighty. I look forward to seeing what it's like on release, but ATM I agree completely with Trumper. ;)
Just my two pence, and I'm not wishing to start an argument with anyone who thinks differently. You won't convince me to your side of thinking, so preserve your itching typing fingers for someone else ;)

Caveman 01-30-2011 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 218712)
Discussing wetness is pointless at this stage. The landscape of England in CoD should represent how it would have looked in 1940. In other wrods, burnished, dry, and extremely hot.
I'm sure monitor tweaking could have an effect, but why should most users have to do that? Why can't the product be shipped out as perfect as possible? Clearly many UK residents, like myself, view these shots as anything but Blighty. I look forward to seeing what it's like on release, but ATM I agree completely with Trumper. ;)
Just my two pence, and I'm not wishing to start an argument with anyone who thinks differently. You won't convince me to your side of thinking, so preserve your itching typing fingers for someone else ;)

If you want it as real as possible, then a user MUST tweak their monitor. This is because you have to have a baseline definition of what "real colors" are. It makes sense for the developer to use that standard as a starting point. Then, all others conform to that standard. It has to be done that way when you think about it...

There is a vast difference in color perception depending on what monitor is being used. To get them in the same ballpark, you have to calibrate... laws of physics here can't be defeated any other way.

Igo kyu 01-30-2011 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caveman (Post 218722)
If you want it as real as possible, then a user MUST tweak their monitor. This is because you have to have a baseline definition of what "real colors" are. It makes sense for the developer to use that standard as a starting point. Then, all others conform to that standard. It has to be done that way when you think about it...

There is a vast difference in color perception depending on what monitor is being used. To get them in the same ballpark, you have to calibrate... laws of physics here can't be defeated any other way.

Sure, with a new monitor. However, once a monitor is adjusted to suit one image, that should be right for all images, unless the first image was badly out of adjustment itself, in which case everything else will look odd and further adjustment may be necessary. If each game that came out required that every player's monitor was adjusted to it, and a player's monitor had to be adjusted every time they played a different game, that would be a nightmare, it would make playing games so difficult we might as well buy consoles.

philip.ed 01-30-2011 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Igo kyu (Post 218725)
Sure, with a new monitor. However, once a monitor is adjusted to suit one image, that should be right for all images, unless the first image was badly out of adjustment itself, in which case everything else will look odd and further adjustment may be necessary. If each game that came out required that every player's monitor was adjusted to it, and a player's monitor had to be adjusted every time they played a different game, that would be a nightmare, it would make playing games so difficult we might as well buy consoles.

I completely agree with you Igo. I think you hit the nail on the head ;)
I think we can only wait for release :D

julien673 01-30-2011 03:45 PM

CoD its a sim about what.... oohhh aviation,,,, so if you love talking about how the vegetable must look like more green limey or somethink else... start your frustration post elsewhere.... busy my time to find interesting post along all this nonsence post. Get a life...

brando 01-30-2011 03:50 PM

My monitor comes with 4 pre-set modes as well as a manual option. After the manual settings have been adjusted it is possible to Save the setting as a named mode.
Changing the monitor settings between modes takes less than a minute to do, it ain't difficult.

Richie 01-30-2011 03:51 PM

Did you guys know that the grass is going to move :)


http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3192851

fireflyerz 01-30-2011 04:29 PM

LOL :grin:

Richie 01-30-2011 04:49 PM

Hey when I fire up my 109 and the grass shivers behind me that will look cool.

philip.ed 01-30-2011 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by julien673 (Post 218762)
CoD its a sim about what.... oohhh aviation,,,, so if you love talking about how the vegetable must look like more green limey or somethink else... start your frustration post elsewhere.... busy my time to find interesting post along all this nonsence post. Get a life...

Sorry Julien, I forgot this was your forum.
Honestly, this is a simulator. It's meant to be as realistic as possible. It's not as if we're asking for certain vegetable fields in certain areas.
:rolleyes:

carl 01-30-2011 05:27 PM

what with hecke and phillip, i think i may go smoke some grass as it is the only way i will be able to make sense of where this thread has gone.:rolleyes:

HenFre 01-30-2011 06:02 PM

Thanks for the update Oleg and Luthier.. Love the colour of the green grass :grin:

julien673 01-30-2011 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carl (Post 218789)
what with hecke and phillip, i think i may go smoke some grass as it is the only way i will be able to make sense of where this thread has gone.:rolleyes:

+1

BadAim 01-30-2011 06:40 PM

Is it that they're letting the patients in the Insane asylums use the internet, or are they just letting them out? And why do they all come here?


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