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Avimimus 01-17-2011 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy (Post 212963)
from an UBI official in the german UBI forum:
only an online activation once is needed.

Yay!

=FPS=Salsero 01-18-2011 01:59 AM

Well, I won't be playing the game often (if at all). And I do not think anyone at UBI will read this.

IMHO, it will be fantastic if it would be possible to join as a gunner (or maybe flak operator), but not as a pilot, on the computer that was not activated.

Same applies to the tanks/ships/etc - gunners should be recruit-able among non-technical guys for free./

Though FPS shooter authors will sue Oleg for dumping, I afraid :)

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And I hope that in some point in future DRM will be dropped. As it was in Il-2 itself.

Wolf_Rider 01-18-2011 11:32 AM

That's good news on the one time activation

LoBiSoMeM 01-18-2011 11:49 AM

I like Steam.

I buy games, install them in any computer I use, and play. With working auto-updates enable, save time.

It's a fully working sell platform. It's made by Valve, I like Valve. I will buy Cliffs Of Dover over Steam, will fly into the game untill my arms get sore and have a lot of fun without even think about corporative evil plans.

The life is short. IL-2 is about the fun part of it.

brando 01-18-2011 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lobisomem (Post 213158)
i like steam.

I buy games, install them in any computer i use, and play. With working auto-updates enable, save time.

It's a fully working sell platform. It's made by valve, i like valve. I will buy cliffs of dover over steam, will fly into the game untill my arms get sore and have a lot of fun without even think about corporative evil plans.

The life is short. Il-2 is about the fun part of it.

+1

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zauii 01-18-2011 12:30 PM

If the DRM stops anyone from buying this masterpiece from Oleg/Maddox Games then they can **** off in my eyes, I couldnt care less about people whining about DRM.

These days developers >> CAN << indeed assume that the majoirty of their users will have acccess to a stable broadband connection, and if you dont then well sorry, sh*t happens.

The Kraken 01-18-2011 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zauii (Post 213161)
If the DRM stops anyone from buying this masterpiece from Oleg/Maddox Games then they can **** off in my eyes, I couldnt care less about people whining about DRM.

Thanks for such a mature and balanced contribution to this topic :rolleyes:

Quote:

These days developers >> CAN << indeed assume that the majoirty of their users will have acccess to a stable broadband connection, and if you dont then well sorry, sh*t happens.
Funny how Oleg says the opposite.

addman 01-18-2011 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Kraken (Post 213163)
Funny how Oleg says the opposite.

Good then, that Olegs words aren't law :) I respect Oleg as a game developer but I don't always agree with his opinions. Isn't that nice though, being able to vent your own opinions here without being judged by others? ;)

csThor 01-18-2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zauii (Post 213161)
If the DRM stops anyone from buying this masterpiece from Oleg/Maddox Games then they can **** off in my eyes, I couldnt care less about people whining about DRM.

These days developers >> CAN << indeed assume that the majoirty of their users will have acccess to a stable broadband connection, and if you dont then well sorry, sh*t happens.

The snobism of some people here never ceases to amaze me. And it does induce the urge to puke ...

http://images.zaazu.com/img/thumbsdo...748-medium.gif

Avimimus 01-18-2011 01:46 PM

Oleg knows that many in Eastern Europe either cannot afford or do not live near high-speed connections (similar to Canada). He also has state that it is the distributor (not the developer) that attaches the DRM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zauii (Post 213161)
These days developers >> CAN << indeed assume that the majoirty of their users will have acccess to a stable broadband connection, and if you dont then well sorry, sh*t happens.

Let me guess - You're from a reasonably large urban center, in a developed country and you're solidly middle-class with a comfortable economic life. It is a stretch - but I can guess that you're an American (as you guys seem to fear, rather than look out for, your neighbors).

Is any of this correct? How far off am I?

LoBiSoMeM 01-18-2011 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avimimus (Post 213179)
Oleg knows that many in Eastern Europe either cannot afford or do not live near high-speed connections (similar to Canada). He also has state that it is the distributor (not the developer) that attaches the DRM.



Let me guess - You're from a reasonably large urban center, in a developed country and you're solidly middle-class with a comfortable economic life. It is a stretch - but I can guess that you're an American (as you guys seem to fear, rather than look out for, your neighbors).

Is any of this correct? How far off am I?

I don't know obout others, but I live in Brazil, I'm not rich, and if someone can build a system that will run OK CoD, MAYBE this consumer can afford some internet connection to activate a game...

If you live in a rural area of Bangladesh, you have other major problems to deal than "intrusive DRM". We aren't "snob", just pointing that the MAJORITY of people whinning about DRM aren't poor people... It's plain clear.

Simple as that. Is more a "moral' problem, and I agree with the criticism about DRM. DRM sucks. But isn't a "poor x rich" issue.

addman 01-18-2011 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM (Post 213182)
I don't know obout others, but I live in Brazil, I'm not rich, and if someone can build a system that will run OK CoD, MAYBE this consumer can afford some internet connection to activate a game...

If you live in a rural area of Bangladesh, you have other major problems to deal than "intrusive DRM". We aren't "snob", just pointing that the MAJORITY of people whinning about DRM aren't poor people... It's plain clear.

Simple as that. Is more a "moral' problem, and I agree with the criticism about DRM. DRM sucks. But isn't a "poor x rich" issue.

+1

drafting 01-18-2011 02:39 PM

It's actually funny how many people in the US don't have access to broadband...

My uncle lives pretty far outside of any nearby town, and he has no option but a really crappy dial-up line. He also absolutely loves combat sims of all forms on the PC (his favorite being WWII subs and planes).

Well, Ubisoft has already effectively shut him out of Silent Hunter V, and now they're potentially going to shut him out of Oleg's new BoB sim (depending on their final DRM implementation)! :evil:

Maybe I'll end up boycotting Cliffs of Dover just like I'm still boycotting Silent Hunter V... Hey, Ubisoft! Not everyone has a constant internet connection (or one at all)! :rolleyes:

LoBiSoMeM 01-18-2011 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drafting (Post 213189)
Maybe I'll end up boycotting Cliffs of Dover just like I'm still boycotting Silent Hunter V... Hey, Ubisoft! Not everyone has a constant internet connection (or one at all)! :rolleyes:

You don't need constant internet connection to activate ONE TIME a title.

IL-2:CoD isn't Silent Hunter V.

drafting 01-18-2011 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM (Post 213257)
You don't need constant internet connection to activate ONE TIME a title.

IL-2:CoD isn't Silent Hunter V.


I certainly hope so. Ubi's DRM implementation will definitely determine the course of things...

WTE_Galway 01-18-2011 09:57 PM

One time activation is still rather annoying but a bit less onerous than continual connection, at least you can take your gaming rig to work or a friends to activate or maybe even borrow a wireless internet modem for the day.

Its an interesting psychological quirk that people that spend all day and night online just assume the whole world is also online.

Sven 01-18-2011 10:21 PM

why is this thread still flowing? there is no DRM , only once you have to be online, like you are now on the forums..


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