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major_setback 01-03-2011 12:11 AM

I don't mind a bit of variation in the colour of the roundels.

This is a screenshot from a few weeks ago. The colours here look perfect to me.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...013_201725.jpg

SQB 01-03-2011 03:38 AM

All the colours look really good in that one, i think somebody on the team might have had a good hard go at getting everything right :grin:

hiro 01-03-2011 05:32 AM

Thanks and
 
Merry Christmas and Happy new year, thanks for the updates.


My heart is glad on your hard work!

mungee 01-03-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by major_setback (Post 209044)
I don't mind a bit of variation in the colour of the roundels.

This is a screenshot from a few weeks ago. The colours here look perfect to me.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...013_201725.jpg

I agree 100% - the red looks perfect to me!

Wolf_Rider 01-03-2011 12:50 PM

yes, Happy New Year to all and may it bring good health, prosperity and peace on Earth.

I can't get the images to show but from what I can see of the thumbs they look excellent

krz9000 01-03-2011 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McHilt (Post 208480)
??? Virtual maybe? :confused: :-)

Ok, just a detail...
anyway, Thanks for posting on the 31st of december!
and a happy new year to all of you...

viral as in "spreading like the plague"...:) its very easy to spread information around with facebook or twitter,...and its basically cost free. i dont see a reason to not use these plattforms. they are super effective

johnnypfft 01-04-2011 09:00 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFLYS6_ey9o

Kianoni 01-04-2011 09:18 PM

Happy new year to the team!
Oleg did I see realistic trim tabs there? are they working realisticly?

1.JaVA_Sjonnie 01-05-2011 11:25 AM

Thanks for posting this on the 31st Oleg!!:)

Some people here seem to forget that the colors are all still WiP and you keep telling us with almost every update but I guess there will always be whiners....:rolleyes:

kristorf 01-05-2011 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1.JaVA_Sjonnie (Post 209676)
Thanks for posting this on the 31st Oleg!!:)

Some people here seem to forget that the colors are all still WiP and you keep telling us with almost every update but I guess there will always be whiners....:rolleyes:

I don't think its whining, just commenting on something that could so easily be overlooked.
Just look at the RAF roundels in IL2 (I know its an old game etc.), I would hate something so basic to ruin the appearance of some beautiful aircraft

1.JaVA_Sjonnie 01-05-2011 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristorf (Post 209684)
I don't think its whining, just commenting on something that could so easily be overlooked.
Just look at the RAF roundels in IL2 (I know its an old game etc.), I would hate something so basic to ruin the appearance of some beautiful aircraft

OK point taken, it's not whining on your part. My remark is more about the fact that Oleg has pointed out previously that even the colors in the screenies are WiP so my thought was that maybe some of the remarks here about colour were by people who have overlooked that. As you said, things can sometimes be easily overlooked. ;)

My guess is that the end product will show correct colours. How could Oleg not be striving for that?

philip.ed 01-05-2011 05:23 PM

WIP, understandable, but it's odd that a colour (which looked great before) has now changed. Consequently, one would be under the impression the team had thought it inadequate, so in this case posting that it looked wrong is perfectly understandable ;) just my two pence. I think it's a lovely update, and it's great to see that the team is putting so much into details like this.
What I'd love to know is if we can, for the RAF, select the size of the letters and the different roundel-placements for the skins. I have yet to see an update showing the large lettering which 32 and 610 squadron used.

jocko417 01-05-2011 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 209759)
What I'd love to know is if we can, for the RAF, select the size of the letters and the different roundel-placements for the skins. I have yet to see an update showing the large lettering which 32 and 610 squadron used.



Good point, I'm hoping that the markings placement isn't as rigid as IL-2's was, Aces did some great work with his MAT program but there were still limitations.

I'd like to see a markings option of "code letters only" for user made skins with the roundels already painted on. I've noticed that the markings are not completely opaque so you do see a bit of the panel lines showing through. This is nice, as IL-2's markings always looked like big stickers applied over top rather than actually painted onto the aircraft skin. This is not a dig, IL-2's markings were ground breaking in 2001, this is just ten years of perspective talking. If they placed the sim-generated markings under the panel lines/rivets and weathering layers that would probably be most realistic.

As for more choice, the first year of the war was a very confusing time for RAF markings and finishes since the 'official standard' changed often, and it took time for maintenance units and squadrons to catch up. There were many different styles of nationality markings wrt size, colour combinations, and placement. Also, there were as many as 8 different under surface finishes, from the black and white special ID markings to the many non-standard colours substituted for "Sky". The airplanes didn't really start to look uniform until the battle was over. What you see in the screenies is what would have been standard, reality varied quite a bit at individual squadron level during the battle.

Seeing as how we are getting serials for each airplane as part of the markings, I'd like to see the RAF practice of 'A' and 'B' camo schemes (basically mirror images of one another) used according to odd and even numbered serials. Odd serials wore the A camo style, even the B.

If BoB gives us all this I'll be very impressed.

Well, this NERD hat I'm wearing is getting a bit heavy so I guess I'll take it off. Sigh of relief from all readers. ;)

MD_Titus 01-05-2011 09:30 PM

tbf the markings in 4.10 are a vast improvement, look a tonne better since.

glue 01-06-2011 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocko417 (Post 209846)
Good point, I'm hoping that the markings placement isn't as rigid as IL-2's was, Aces did some great work with his MAT program but there were still limitations.

I'd like to see a markings option of "code letters only" for user made skins with the roundels already painted on. I've noticed that the markings are not completely opaque so you do see a bit of the panel lines showing through. This is nice, as IL-2's markings always looked like big stickers applied over top rather than actually painted onto the aircraft skin. This is not a dig, IL-2's markings were ground breaking in 2001, this is just ten years of perspective talking. If they placed the sim-generated markings under the panel lines/rivets and weathering layers that would probably be most realistic.

As for more choice, the first year of the war was a very confusing time for RAF markings and finishes since the 'official standard' changed often, and it took time for maintenance units and squadrons to catch up. There were many different styles of nationality markings wrt size, colour combinations, and placement. Also, there were as many as 8 different under surface finishes, from the black and white special ID markings to the many non-standard colours substituted for "Sky". The airplanes didn't really start to look uniform until the battle was over. What you see in the screenies is what would have been standard, reality varied quite a bit at individual squadron level during the battle.

Seeing as how we are getting serials for each airplane as part of the markings, I'd like to see the RAF practice of 'A' and 'B' camo schemes (basically mirror images of one another) used according to odd and even numbered serials. Odd serials wore the A camo style, even the B.

If BoB gives us all this I'll be very impressed.

Well, this NERD hat I'm wearing is getting a bit heavy so I guess I'll take it off. Sigh of relief from all readers. ;)


It looks as if it's just an overlay texture, which is superseded by the bump map of the plane's rivets and details, which will give it depth.


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