I think the Lysander was dropped from the game.

Runs on a i5 with gtx460 and 2 gigs of ram...on MAXIMUM graphics settings.


In other words, Whoooooooooooooo

It looks fantastic, but god knows how it will run with 30+ bombers and escorting fighters etc over land, I cant see 1GB more of ram helping those stutters/stops too much, hopefully there is more work to do on it yet.

It works, i wouldn't say it runs from what ive seen, even with just one aircraft it locks up over land. :(

So. If I understand clearly, then the graphics card ( like Nvidia gtx 460 1 GB) drives the game well. Problem is just becouse a lack of capacity of RAM. Enibody can confirm this ?


Sry for bad English.

rgr. PETKA

Hehe better to post it twice... freaking individual ammo belt compositions!!! Not only a long-requested feature but also a major potential hazard for the online crowd - imagine the coming discussions about historical ammo composition ("100% MG is cheating!!!")

Other info I got when scanning through those posts:

- nice bomber crew animations
- AI radio messages greatly enhanced
- variation in AI attack patterns
- "Bots still swear" ;)
- no more streams of debris coming off bombers when shooting them

One more vid; not much we haven't seen by now. I think the plane is in the cloud shadow at some point which is a nice touch, but hard to say for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR6br0ERGhI

Why not?

:confused: so just memory bottleneck (2 gb)? ...and as previously said we talked about i7 core....but which among them i7 890x 3,33Ghz at 1018€ (my reference seller) or i7 930 2,8Ghz at 240€? :confused:
for sure my q6600@3,00Ghz and 8800gt are history.
Great work anyway!

I was more referring to the pc specs and the "MAXIMUM graphics" part, wich is, in all honesty way more than alot of us expected. Wouldnt u agree?

And 2 more gigs of ram would do alot of differance.;)

Well, dont dismiss the old quads just yet. Iv read on many ocassions where people stated that they (socket 775 Quads) can outperform the i5-i7 series when it comes to actuall gaming performance.

Dont stare to much on what u and others get in 3DMark Vantage and such. I does not accuratly reflect actuall gaming in any way.

:grin:It looks like they are running it with everything maxed out and on big monitors (high res), which is very promising, although I cant figure out how an extra gig of ram will help, it certainly doesn't in most games, i guess time will telll, but it looks very good indeed.

obviously only when sow will came out we'll be able to judge how it runs and eventually to make Hw changes, I don't want to throw money
unnecessarily. I feel the sow release is closer and closer..
have a good day to everybody....

Said it before, saying it again. The game is in BETA state, what you have seen performance wise so far is NOT by any means the final state of the game. I can already imagine the surprise of many here when they realise it's runs quite well on even modest hardware configurations LOL!

109 cockpit (in RAF service ;))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKDW9Pm6qvs

....not to be greedy... but all these videos replace the abitual friday update or the 'daily bread' is to be expected..;) (ops.. weekly bread)
too avid?

Simplified:

When the system runs out of available ram it will start paging it to and from the hard drive, because the hard drive is so much slower than ram this is what causes the stutters and FPS issues. Thus adding more memory so that it doesn't need to page will remove the stutters you see over land.

please, upload more videos.thks

I think the recommended ram is 3 gigs

I think Luthier said it was 3GB Minimum not recommended.

To be fair Tree, most games have quite different demands to flightsims in terms of memory, the best comparison I can think of in the sense of sheer size of the terrain map is the Arma series or maybe Oblivion or another one of the big sandbox games. Arma is similarly demanding at high settings and with Oblivion they used a cell system where only the objects in the current cell were rendered with the exception of certain objects specially defined to be shown all the time (and it was still a nightmare to run when it came out).
You're right though, at high settings, fighting a huge formation over land looks like it would be a PC-slaying activity for any current PC. :eek: Although we *have* seen one video of a fair few aircraft on screen at a time with the game running smoothly at what are presumably slightly lower settings (and with much less complete terrain) earlier on in development.

Of course, my misstake. :)

Yes, somebody please say to these guys to use german insigna!!!!

I would hope for an Emil 3 "Late" with armoured protection for the pilot, but we'll take care of Spitfire with this baby however.

This Emil looks exciting, thank for the video!

I'm so much impressed by the quality of the lighting in these videos, this is nothing to compare with the latest "so-so" screenshots !!! :eek::grin:

I am not convinced that we've seen all of the Bf 109 versions, yet. In that one vid I made out four different Spit versions and I guess there's still something up Oleg's sleeve which he won't show ATM.

Btw, the landscape looks quite good too, much better, I repeat, than the latest screenshots (I'm beginning to suspect that the latest screenshots were some kind of cover traps).

Actually, regarding the debris, I did read a response from Oleg where he said that there is debris but it's much finer than in il-2 (we saw this in a previous video - the one of the Spits attacking the Dorniers. Very fine metal flakes can be seen coming off the German ac.)

Oleg also said that panels will come off.

Yes, 4 Spitfire and 2 Hurricane.

I really hope for more Emil me too:

- E1

- E3 "Late"

- E4 later as DLC

A joke before the official presentation, i agree.

Yes, landscape looks much better now and finally with high definition textures.

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I did some screencaptures from this video, and corrected for distortion:


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http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2.../bob19copy.jpg

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resized:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2.../il042copy.jpg

One must see the thing in movement : screenshots look cartoonish, but videos look almost realistic (only critic, the green colors perhaps a little too vivid).

But I repeat, what amazes me at most is the quality of the lighting in the cockpits.

Not to me it doesn't. Same textures, colours impossible to judge (oversaturation and higher contrast with those cameras), detail level is of course higher, but still nothing fundamentally different here to what we've been shown in all those screens in the last months :confused:

i could imagine a Hurricane Mk.I and a Mk.IIA
the Spitfires Mk.IA, IB (hopefully with only the two 20mm canons ;) )and also a IIA. The 4th ??

the 109 has no headarmour, ok, but a better view from the pit :D
and an E-1 and E-4 would be THE choices for a BoB game IMHO , sure with options to become -/B fighterbombers ;)
an E-4/N would be a welcomed surprise :D <- no hopes.........

and perhaps someone could tell the team that the so often called Bf110C-4/B was officially called a C-7 ;) - there was also only one 110 visible

poor "red" side, only the Blenheim IV is flyable in the shown gameversion as bombcarrier.................. i still have hoped for a flyable Wellington.



but all looks amazing !!!!!!!!!!!

For comparison:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2.../bob01copy.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lCodc16u2kc/Ra...w/IMG_0466.JPG


From all the videos - I'm very happy with the landscape. It looks far better than I imagined it would.
The lighting is just about perfect too.

One looks cold, univiting and massive , the other looks like a game.

I gotta chuckle at some people here making judgement calls on the terrain based on a video camera recording (of unknown quality and recording settings) of a video monitor (with no idea what type of color settings are being used on it) showing a BETA VERSION of the game.

Keep it up, fellas. It's great entertainment. :P

we want beta version :3

Is that....? It IS! The Westland Strumpet finally becomes playable. Love the sideburns. Great to have something to hang onto.

I bet you haven't seen this. :grin:

Video of the presentation:

http://rutube.ru/tracks/3742502.html...46b8b757bf2761

... in some shot extracted from a video shared I noticed to a detail I hope will tuned up before release. I'm referring to the too much reflexive shader of water. In a shot depicting clearly a rough sea the clouds are reflected innaturally,the effect evocate a quiet lake rather than a rough surface.
physically a rough surface disrupt the incident rays and the image reflected is heavy blurred or not reflected at all.
see U

...


There's a "Dark Bow" shadow effect on forest, ahead of this flying No. 302 Polish Fighter Squadron Hurricane. It seems to impact as well the isolated trees.
It's particularly visible around 3'35" and 3'45" on this 720p Full screen video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EvpT...layer_embedded


...

Shadows/LOD popping in I reckon.

Look at 07.51 min, by the cliffs, might as well be real.

Maddox himself doing the BoB presentation. All in Russian. Poor quality. ;)

Next one :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmtigE5GxUE

Does someone know where these little white clouds of smoke come from?

0:20 - 0:24 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feR3S11Z9hs

The interesting thing is that either all our whining about colour palettes etc has been used as input or we have been crying about some old build while they have had this build for a long time which quite frankly looks amazing to me...

Ok, a bit too much saturation (color) maybe but heck - there are hedge rows, trees placed where you expect them, no weird shade of violet and the whole landscape looks like someone enabled a lot of shaders that where of on the dev shots we have seen (which is probably the thing we have not seen before)...

Conclusion - the discussion if sim <insert name> maybe looks better etc was for no good - BoB is the xxxx - and that's good ;)

Lesson (as many times before) - believe in Oleg!

Self-Exploding canon shells like we already have in IL2 ( I guess )

Same here ... hilarious !!

I actually think a Q6600 will play this just fine.Throw in a decent gfx card,and 4 GBs of ram,and it will run well IMO.
Don't forget,nobody could play il2 at maximum settings when it was released.

+1

As I said in the other thread, there's still a lot of free space for better graphics, more objects and features. This is a good sign.

I think so, I will keep my Q9550@3,6GHz. I will only change my videocard to a better one if SOW will be out. Now I use a NV285

Repeating myself here, but for me it's the complete opposite. All of what is shown here was already part of the development updates in one form or another. It's definitely great to see everything integrated and working finally, but I fail to see any new shaders, textures, objects etc...

Agreed ;)

Oleg stated already that they'll introduce / unlock other graphical features step by step in the future. On this way SoW and its ancestor will keep having a decent look over the years.

will keep my q9550 @3.8ghz as well.... wont have any difference with a standard i7 :rolleyes:

will upgrade my ati4870 though, and might as well add some more ram :-P

Landscape from high altitude.

Cool, ferry tank on the Su-26.

I adjusted the hue on this one:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ack/-26_3b.jpg

Look at this. Spitfire with the girl in it incl. bailout of them together. Sweet.

1:17+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCAHUxQgUfc

LOL! Best feature so far!

Luthier shows sth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtx3PSPkN8g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90EwI84bLTQ

Well we can always hope for the first addon (Beachhead defense or dropping off agents).

Personal wish for me would be the Walrus as flyable.

From Oleg's presentation...video:

The cloth/paper covering the guns is torn when the guns fire in the video:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ck/pres02b.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ck/pres03b.jpg

I especially like the firing effects in that video from Oleg, something which cannot be shown in a screenshot :)

That's been known for months.

I haven`t understand the "Battle for Moscow" statement, the videos are very impressiv, realy stuning, I`m with il2 since the first Demo.

Will we get 2 Simulations or is the Moscow the next step for SOW?!

The second addon will be "Battle of Moscow"

Actually we'll get three but not at the same time: "On the right side of the wall is an announcement of a new title titled The Battle for Moscow. It will not be the next release but probably almost in parallel with the next release."

http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_465a.html

Sounds like we will first see the Battle of Britain, and then two further releases at roughly the same time, one of which is "Battle for Moscow". No release date for those yet, we only know they're been in production already.

Thanks for the infos, my russian is a bit nonexistent ;)

I would even pay for a small Addon combines the "Battle for Poland" and "Battle for France"

we will see how money intensiv those addons will be ;)

Oleg statet:
Ну... так сказать возможный проект... который уже стартовал. Он делается с нашей помошью, на нашем движке и тп... и будет возможно объединить с БзБ.

срок разработки - более двух лет. Шибко много делать. Несмотря на многое готовое уже (движок, некоторая наземка немецкая, самолеты). Битва за Москву - это покруче будет, чем БзБ.... - пущат на западе знают, что и ПВО Москвы и летчики и Радары у СССР были. И не дали по настоящему бомбить Москву они... а в итоге и вообще немцам пришлось от этой идеи отказаться... Надо туда бы и историю со сбитым немецким самолетом с химическим оружием на борту.... чтобы знал мир что планировалось...

(http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showpost.php?...2&postcount=32)

Would be great to translate it please ;)

Is it me or does the in-cockpit dynamic lighting seem lowered in this video? It doesn't seem as pronounced and realistic as the others. Shadows of the aircraft spars etc. don't seem apparent in the 'pit - more of a softer approach ala IL2. When he starts up again after the bailout it seems higher quality though. Maybe it's just the position of the a/c relative to the sun.

Either way, I must say that the high quality lighting we've seen recently in these vids, for me, is fantastic to say the least.

Oleg statet:
Well ... So tell prospective project ... which has already started. It is with our help, our engine, etc. .. and it will be possible to combine with BzB.

term of exploitation-more than two years. Shybko lot do. Despite much ready already (engine, some nazemka German aircraft). Battle of Moscow is quite steep will than BzB ....-puŝat in the West know that pilots and air defense of Moscow and the USSR and radar. And did they really bomb Moscow ... as a result, and the Germans had the idea to ... Should there be a story of the downed German aircraft with chemical weapons on board .... to know the world that was ...

Interesting read! Thank you ;)

Not so sure - don't try google at home kids!! :)

"In general, there is so much settings that even I'm asking. from Roman and what it is ... he's naprogrammiroval you <<fesking>> cloud of realism ... off here is how something should be this <<fesking>> cloud, not to show the setting is normal .... And that kettle just fall off the chair."

Well I nearly pee'd myself and fell off my chair. Some interpretation needed.

Oleggish Russian + automated translator = total gibberish. :) Here's better version:
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Well... So to speak, possible project... Which already lunched. It is being developed with our help, using our engine, etc... And it will be possible to merge it with BoB.

Time of development - more then 2 years. A lots of things to do. Despite there are already many things done (the engine, some German ground units, planes). Battle for Moscow - this would be tougher, then BoB... - let them at the West know, that there were Moscow Air Defense and pilots and radars in the USSR. And they didn't let bomb Moscow really hard. Which eventually forced Germans to abandon that idea at all... We also should get in there the story with downed German plane, which had chemical weapons on board... So the world would know, what they have planned...
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All-in-all, there so many [keyboard command - SQ] settings, that even I had to ask Roman [their functionality programmer - SQ] what this all for... He programmed a f*king heap of realism for you... We should make some way to switch that f*king heap [of keyboard settings - SQ] off, so it won't show with normal [difficulty] settings... Or a dummy [a newbie player] would just fall off the chair.

:lol: It's funny even with normal translation, so I had to put my comments, to make it clearer.

in germany you can get 8 gig of ddr3 ram for under 100 euro. this is pc gaming. its the platform that pushes technology. if your tight on money i would recommend a console or stick to il2. since flightsimming is a hardware intensive genre i dont see any sense in adjusting a new title to an audience that is too tight upgrading their computers once in a while. even with 4 gigs im sure you can run this pretty well. and if not on maximum settings well then im sure there will be options.

Thanks for that. Thought the expletives were just a mis-translation - he said "flippin" or some such euphemism.

Are you official Olegish translator? :lol:

:grin: LOL, Thanks SaQson... Looking forward to a F*king heap of keyboard settings ;):grin:

PS- the high alt pics posted by Hecke look really, really, good to me... no obvious tiling of terrain textures at all-

Well, literary, he said "a horse-reddish heap" :grin: Which in Russian rather means "a heap of dicks". :lol: So, I thought, "a f*king heap" would be a most correct translation.

He doesn't pay me for this, if that's what you ask. So, no. I am enthusiast Olegish translator. :cool:

Yeah, like we're scared of the ram requirements.

I'll need a new GPU (or two), plus I'm not sure what an OC 955 can do...

So we're talking about 1k rather than 100. ;)

What I really don't like of what I've seen so far ist that the pilot figures have no shadow.

You look left or right on the wing and you see an empty canopy :rolleyes:

It's looking great, I love the bit of video of the Su-26, but....

I just wish I could see one shot, one short clip, of bad weather.

Of any weather, come to think of it, besides the brightest of summer's days and the fluffiest of cotton wool clouds.

I think we've seen a single picture of something approaching an overcast (with a Wellington) but then the same thing from a different angle revealed the cloud coverage to be very limited.

If it's there, someone, anyone, please show it! Weather played a HUGE role in 1940.

:)

Awesome videos and screenshots; this is enough for 10 Friday updates IMHO.
It's great to see everything pieced together, and the fact that the game can even run on such a system with adequate fps over water is excellent IMO (and with max graphics...)

There's nothing more to say, really; I'm in awe. This is finally tangible (although maybe Mystipuma thought that in 2006?)

I think the girl with the deely boppers could tell you. ;)

That's a myth. Weather is a new phenomenon (since the late '80s). Don't believe the hype. :shock::razz:

Has anyone posted this yet? It was over in simhq. Presentation vid.


http://rutube.ru/tracks/3742502.html...46b8b757bf2761

If it came out then it couldn't look like this though. Just think of what the movie makers and skinners can do with this beauty. After all the best movie makers and skinners all fly IL-2....let's face it. :)

Exciting times at last, seems it's right around the corner now ;)
Thankfully i wasn't wrong to believe and hope that the sum of all features shown in an isolated fashion in static screenshots, finally ends up being more than the sum of its parts when seen integrated and in motion.

The way i read this? "You'll be able to change your ammunition belting as you see fit".

If this is what google translate means, then that's some pretty good news...no tracers, swoop in and rake them with 20mm fire while they are totally unaware of what's happening :grin:


Yup. No upgrade for me. I have an i7 920 (not OC'ed) with 3GB of RAM and an Ati 4890 1GB running winXP 32bit. Actually, the 3GB i got because i didn't want to touch Vista with a 10-foot pole back when i bought it, so i had to stay under the 4GB limit. Also, it made sense due to the i7's/mobo tripple channel feature, so i got 3 sticks of 1GB each.

It's not the best gaming PC out there but judging from the PCs they were running on the show, i guess it has the "oomph" to do the job.

The 4890 does DX10 and as i doubt tesselation will factor in heavily for now, i don't care about getting a DX11 card yet. A few months ago i have also installed win7 64bit on a second disk so i'm good to go. In fact if i get anything at all, it will probably be an extra 3GB of RAM and that will be it for some time.


True. We don't know how the monitors are calibrated (if they are calibrated at all) and this image is then fed through crappy phone cameras sporting a tiny lens, or a proper videocamera to which we still don't know the specs and how they affect further distortion of the image.

The only way to know how it will look on our PCs is have someone FRAPS it at full detail and send us the .avi to play back on our own screen. Chill out people ;)


That's probably smoke from the guns firing.

one thing that ive noticed is the lack of sun glare from a bright high sun when people have looked almost right into it...prob still WIP though :)

Yep, but it's the first time I've gotten through it to the end.

What I found especially interesting, in light of the whole debate about how stuttery the fps got in the other vid (me-110 near seaside town on the i5+2gig+nv460 machine), is how smooth the fps were in the su-26 portion in the last 2 mins of this one.

I found watching the su-26 sequence to be highly re-assuring even though it may have been captured from a high-end machine and with lower graphics settings (though it doesn't look any worse to me- the chalk cliffs, in particular, look truly photorealistic!!)

C_G

A small one. Something flies off an aircraft and hits this Spitfire I think in the first part.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P5SxEFIHfg

Sorry if these where posted already...I dont remember seeing them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYYFl...eature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0eCPeBFEG4&NR=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go5IQ...eature=related

Yes but people may miss them so I can't see the harm. Not all of us have the time to spend hours and hours in front of our computers searching for videos and looking at post.

Are they posted in this thread? I don't see them...I'll take'm out if they are.

Not a bad cityscape...nicely varied and interesting:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...a_018copy2.jpg

From:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...r_466a_018.jpg

more scrennshots:
http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=65178&page=2
scroll down to the end.

No nonsense leave them in that wasn't sarcasm. By all means leave them in!

About the videos: for your pleasure I've put them all together in one post at my blog:

http://fooblog.mexxoft.com/category/...e/screenshots/