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Oleg Maddox 05-03-2010 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironman69 (Post 157501)
Oleg, what was President Medvedev flying ? What were you pointing at ?

La-7. He was shot down He-111. If to speak about Il-2. However we were demonstrating not only Il-2, but also some technologies that will be partially present in BoB. But he simply tried himself also to control aircraft in a sim.

Oleg Maddox 05-03-2010 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 157502)
Great to hear your ok and getting some rest :)

Hmm I remember your last crash.

A bit more serious though and a new car needed :!:

Yes, these two crashes during 24 hours in the past were cost me some health, two cars completely damaged and still some time remind it in my neck. Hovewer these crashes in the past was due to stupid driving of others.... but now - because of me....

KG26_Alpha 05-03-2010 03:43 PM

Perhaps a driving sim after SoW is finished :)

nearmiss 05-03-2010 03:45 PM

On your visit with the President of Russia... very good.

Oleg, nothing but good can come of it.

The thing you mentioned about how people in other countries have learned of Soviet participation in WW2 is very true.

Your game has been an excellent ambassador of good will between those of us who enjoy IL2 in all countries.

Andric 05-03-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox (Post 157506)
La-7. ...

Why not at I-16?

Abbeville-Boy 05-03-2010 03:51 PM

oleg i hope your Porsche can be repaired :-P

philip.ed 05-03-2010 03:52 PM

Oleg, it seems there is a petition against DRM appearing in future games, and some people are not happy if SoW does follow this (due to Ubisoft)
Is Ubisoft still the publisher or SoW? As if they inforce their DRM policy, then many people will choose to not buy SoW...

...see here http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,5277.0.html

EDIT_see here for a better example http://www.petitiononline.com/ew15dl94/ over 13000 votes against the DRM policy.

Abbeville-Boy 05-03-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 157513)
Oleg, it seems there is a petition against DRM appearing in future games, and some people are not happy if SoW does follow this (due to Ubisoft)
Is Ubisoft still the publisher or SoW? As if they inforce their DRM policy, then many people will choose to not buy SoW...

...see here http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,5277.0.html

a modding site against drm :grin:

philip.ed 05-03-2010 05:00 PM

Ssh! :D

yes, I understand how funny it may seem, but it surely demonstrates the fact further....none-the-less, it shows how DRM could work adversely for SoW ;)

KG26_Alpha 05-03-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 157522)
Ssh! :D

yes, I understand how funny it may seem, but it surely demonstrates the fact further....none-the-less, it shows how DRM could work adversely for SoW ;)

More to the point how effective it could work for publishers using it.

It looks like a bunch of headless chickens running around squawking "DRM DRM DRM"

It just shows how ill informed and ignorant some of the anti DRM voters are there.

Oleg Maddox 05-03-2010 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nearmiss (Post 157510)
On your visit with the President of Russia... very good.

Oleg, nothing but good can come of it.

The thing you mentioned about how people in other countries have learned of Soviet participation in WW2 is very true.

Your game has been an excellent ambassador of good will between those of us who enjoy IL2 in all countries.

It was also one of themes in a short speech.

philip.ed 05-03-2010 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 157529)
More to the point how effective it could work for publishers using it.

It looks like a bunch of headless chickens running around squawking "DRM DRM DRM"

It just shows how ill informed and ignorant some of the anti DRM voters are there.

I'm not following. maintaing a constant internet connection to play a game limits the games audience to those with a constant internet connection, which IMO is ridiculous.

TheGrunch 05-03-2010 06:53 PM

I'd be quite content to buy a game that requires a one-time activation at install, and obviously authentication every time a player goes online to play multiplayer games would be entirely reasonable as well, as long as it was not a requirement to do so when joining a LAN game.

philip.ed 05-03-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGrunch (Post 157540)
I'd be quite content to buy a game that requires a one-time activation at install, and obviously authentication every time a player goes online to play multiplayer games would be entirely reasonable as well, as long as it was not a requirement to do so when joining a LAN game.

It seems you have to be online even when playing offline (a la RoF) in the DRM policy :confused: which sucks if it's true.

Insuber 05-03-2010 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 157544)
It seems you have to be online even when playing offline (a la RoF) in the DRM policy :confused: which sucks if it's true.

ROF has changed its system with the patch 1.11 a couple of months ago. Now you can play offline without an Internet connection. Only the first login must be done online. I think it is a good compromise.

Cheers,
Insuber

Zorin 05-03-2010 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 157550)
ROF has changed its system with the patch 1.11 a couple of months ago. Now you can play offline without an Internet connection. Only the first login must be done online. I think it is a good compromise.

Cheers,
Insuber

Same with GTA IV btw.

Guess they have learned a lesson.

hiro 05-04-2010 12:47 AM

that's cool, the original post, and the game is coming along nicely.

I'd prefer them to use the serial with the awesomely done manual, heck maybe even with two serials (manual and on the poster).

But the days of uber printed manuals with more information than you can handle are gone . . .

Maybe online registration two times (IL-2).

philip.ed 05-04-2010 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 157550)
ROF has changed its system with the patch 1.11 a couple of months ago. Now you can play offline without an Internet connection. Only the first login must be done online. I think it is a good compromise.

Cheers,
Insuber

That is good. But still, the DRM will put some people off if it's implemented. TBH I don't really care, but clearly some do ;)

philip.ed 05-04-2010 07:31 PM

Oleg, is Ubisoft still going to distribute SoW? ;)

Antoninus 05-04-2010 08:27 PM

Maybe you can offer an UBI free special edition, only directly available from 1C, if Ubi is still the publisher for western Europe. In an old style cardboard box with printed map and Spitfire pilot notes, I would pay twice the ordinary price for something like that.

philip.ed 05-04-2010 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Antoninus (Post 157740)
Maybe you can offer an UBI free special edition, only directly available from 1C, if Ubi is still the publisher for western Europe. In an old style cardboard box with printed map and Spitfire pilot notes, I would pay twice the ordinary price for something like that.

So would I ;)

daHeld 05-05-2010 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antoninus (Post 157740)
Maybe you can offer an UBI free special edition, only directly available from 1C, if Ubi is still the publisher for western Europe. In an old style cardboard box with printed map and Spitfire pilot notes, I would pay twice the ordinary price for something like that.

+1 ! Sure as hell would do.

SlipBall 05-05-2010 08:09 PM

It's nice to dream...but they have to protect the game. So don't expect a special DRM free game UBI or not, if thats the route they take for protection:)

Antoninus 05-05-2010 08:38 PM

As long as the DRM allows me to play the game where and whenever I want to play it, it's fine for me.

Apparently Ubisoft is already working on the next step. I will still buy SOW but if that's the future of PC gaming I will stick to older titles and open source in future.

http://games.slashdot.org/comments.p...0&cid=31975686
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I work at Ubisoft as a programmer, which is why I'm posting as an AC. What the next step will be in the DRM, the ramp-up, is gameplay code that is run from the server. So in order to crack that one the pirates will have to fully emulate the server side code. Not the whole of the gameplay code mind you, just a small, but necessary and essential, portion. This should be in effect for the coming summer releases.
For the record I think Ubisoft are being asshat idiots in continuing to ramp up this obscenity of a slap in the face to paying consumers. And I'm not alone, you should see the in-house mailing list flamewars about this (which also means that other employees are freaking greedy douchebags, it's not just the suits.)

speculum jockey 05-05-2010 11:43 PM

Oleg, have you considered going with STEAM for distribution online? It's only getting bigger and better with more followers all the time.

chn6 05-06-2010 02:05 AM

Dear Oleg, Congratulate from China!

It's First, A President of a country to flight IL2.
That's one small step for you, but one giant leap for All Sim pilots.

Take care for your health, Take care for your safety.

If you crash your car again, All IL2er in this world , will unite write to President Dmitry Medvedev, petition he to revoke your Driver's license.. ^^

KG26_Alpha 05-06-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by speculum jockey (Post 157881)
Oleg, have you considered going with STEAM for distribution online? It's only getting bigger and better with more followers all the time.

Steam have a corrupted version of IL2 1946 for download so watch out going down that route.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=1094235

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/1241021758

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/7371074358

engarde 05-07-2010 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antoninus (Post 157740)
Maybe you can offer an UBI free special edition, only directly available from 1C, if Ubi is still the publisher for western Europe. In an old style cardboard box with printed map and Spitfire pilot notes, I would pay twice the ordinary price for something like that.

I've often thought of that, and would have been quite happy to buy that at a higher price.

Hell, I have 3 x copies of 1946 on my shelf, two not opened.

If I could get a copy of SoW with focus on the 109, with produced content - both in game and not - giving me many levels of authentic detail, I would pay for it indeed.

without hesitation.

but, i think the cost-benefit to the producer would not be kind due to comparitively low sales?

Still, I live in hope. ;)

engarde 05-07-2010 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speculum jockey (Post 157881)
Oleg, have you considered going with STEAM for distribution online? It's only getting bigger and better with more followers all the time.

I have no desire to become a steam zombie.

i would be very disappointed to find SoW on steam.

Wutz 05-07-2010 11:21 AM

Yes absolutely agree, Steam and DRM stuff, no support with my money for that.
As I wish to buy a program and not just rent it.

Flying_Nutcase 05-08-2010 05:08 AM

Hi Oleg,

You really have friends in high places! Congrats on the meet with your president and thanks for the great little update.


Flying Nutcase

Nils 05-12-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by drafting (Post 157067)
Wow! Did you ever think when you started all of this that you'd eventually be teaching the president how to play IL2? :grin:

Bet he was RBJ :)
Think of, it fits the time when RBJ dissapeared from the scene and Medvedev appeared ..... I say no more


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