Its good to know WHAT missile is chasing you. Infared or heat seeker. A different sounding alarm/warning will go off for each so you will know what is coming at you. If its a heat seeker.... its advisable to turn your after burners off, with them one your like a huge "IM HERE COME GET ME" target. With infared.... flares will deal with them. It all depends on the aircraft your flying to.....

the older planes will struggle, no matter how good you are at flying them. Its just the way it is to be honest. Where as the newer ones like the F22 just laugh in the face of any missile coming its way.

It takes time to figure out what works best for you. Rememer if your flying in a straight line you wont out run the missile. (unless you dropped 50,000ft). Its trial and error :D you'll soon get it.

For me personally.....

i always flew either the F14 and dealt with ground/air or the SU33 and dealt with just ground (one pass in the SU33 can wipe out an enemy tower)... i ALWAYS had height on my side, so any time a missile was on me i would firsty determine what kind them i would out run it by going into a deep dive and using chaff/flares. Dont use your chaff/flares to early either, its just a waste (even though you have an infinite amount) wait until the missile is right on your arse then give it what for :D


Theirs alot of veterans on here who can help no doubt, so if you get stuck then keep posting for help.

cheers guy will anything and everything if it helps

Ditto. It gets "almost" easy when you can get the missile coming perpendicular to you. Wait until it's uncomfortably close then pop flares and yank the stick into the direction of the missile or vertical, just not away from it. You can roll out of them sometimes, but the roll is so tight that you still often get damaged even if not taken out. Then the next missile gets you since you're at 50% power. LOL
It's hard to get video of a dodge. I've got some in some of my videos, but it's usually just at the edge of the screen so you can't see it. Dodging in an A-10 will get your heart going though, that doesn't exactly bob and weave well. :-P

When my friends and I were playing this a lot, you might run through all of your missiles and never hit anyone. It boiled down to staying OFF the radar guided missiles (so you don't light up everyone's radar as a target), using your eyes and positioning behind them to get a shot off with a sidewinder. Otherwise the missiles would get dodged too easily. The longer range the missile is, and the further away it's shot, the more likely it is to be dodged with ease.

Note: when firing a phoenix, fire ONLY one until it hits or misses. Keep the plane in your sights since you're guiding the missile in and you can only guide one at a time. Fire a second missile or switch off to another weapon and the lock is broken and the missile is gone. Others you can ripple fire. Some Russian planes have long range heatseekers, but they aren't very agile.

The SU-33 is a beast at bombing with those 1500kg bombs (3300 lbs). My go-to is the Strike Eagle, but it takes 2nd next to that thing in bomb capacity.

The air to air missile thats exclusive to the tomcat has the greatest range for air to air targets!! its ridiculous. The maverick??? could be thinking of the wrong one though.

true, but from that range they are rediculously easy to dodge. plus the tomcat has to keep its lock for about a minute after shooting, if he loses it you dont even have to dodge. On one game there was a n00b who immedaitly launched all 4 mavericks, 1 at each of us, then switched to sparrows. Needless to say he died quickly with no kills lol

i find the F22 the "noob" of this game. I hate flying against it. Takes all the fun out of it. Good to see the better players refuse to use it though :D

in arena i will use the SU33 for ground pounding or the F15/F14 for air to air.

Hey FOZ, earlier you mentioned that there were infrared and heat seeking missiles. Are they not the same? Did you mean radar guided and infrared?

Also, I hear ya about the F-22 haha. I love the plane but when it comes down to awesome, I prefer 4th gen veteran planes all the way. How would the Viper stand up in this game?

Damnit this thread is making me want to get a 360 just for this game

Yeah you could be right haha. Been a while!!

The F22 is great to fly in single player, it gets the job done without problems. Takes fun out of playing online though. I love flying all the way to a target in the F14 tomcat, taking 10 mins toget their, drop my payload then make my way back to a friendly carrier and land on the deck to rearm and refuel. I love it.

Holy crap, I feel that.

I say we go get one right now and have a dogfight!

If this game (or something essentially like it) ever comes out for the PS3, it's mine.

If it comes out on PS3, I will murder loved ones with excitement

Dont want to rain on your parade guys.......


but its just not happening lol. Games and graphics etc have advanced in the last couple of years. Unless they gave it a complete overhaul.


Just get yourselves a 360 each and then we can all fly :D

What do you mean?

OVER-G is an old game, it came out when the 360 was first released. To make it work on the PS3, give it an overhaul etc would cost a fair bit. More than it would probably make to be honest. And since its been on the 360 its never been patched (though to be fair theirs not really any major issues with it).

Its an old game is what im trying to say i guess. Unfortunately it probably wont ever be released on the PS3 :(

Oh right I get you know. Sorry, I didn't quite understand it XD

Yep, infra-red and heat-seeking are one and the same. About firing only one AIM-54 aka Phoenix at a time, it's not solely semi-active - it switches to its own guidance as it closes on the target. There'll be a little timer reading 'ACT' at the bottom-right of your HUD - when that reaches zero the missile switches to its own guidance and you're free to drop the lock/ fire another. If your target is close enough it may impact before the countdown ends but really in that situation you should be using another missile; AIM-54 is a long-range missile, one of the few in the game, and is best applied in that role.

:D no worries.

Im playing it now on "challenge" mode. Basically a free flight just taking down targets etc to get my XP up.


Flying the F14 tomcat with "edward" (the brit) as my wingman. Packing 2 sidewinders and 6 phoenix long range air to air missiles, also 2 drop tanks so i can fly further and longer :D

just been given clearance from the control tower to take off.......


lets fly!!

That`s too bad...
WELL, it`s a good thing I enjoy all aircraft because I`ll always have BoP (but hey, devs, if you wanna make some of us jet guys happy, make your own version of Over G heheh).

I`ll see you guys in the skies after exams :grin:

Are we still planning on playing this tonight?
If so, either be on my FL: Raw Kryptonite
or one of the 2 IL2BOP FL's:

Birds of PreyRS

BirdsofPrey1C

Should be up about 9:30 EST, possibly earlier. First couple of rounds will be short respawn dogfight matches in Arena (air to air only, not attacking ground targets). After a couple of those will move to full length normal Arena matches. If anyone is there that is. LOL

I'm still planning on it.

Update: I was just reminded that tonight is my father-in-law's birthday so there is a possibility that I may not make it :(

If I can't make it please say you're up for doing this again sometime, I was really looking forward to playing some OverG.

Raw, sent you an FR. Don't know for certain that I'll be on tonight either, but if I am, I'd like to get in on this. Thanks!

if this is still going down sent an invite my way

hey i sent you and both those tags a FR

I'll go pick up those FR's. Honestly it's not the best night for me either for family reasons too. No big deal to reschedule it for Thurs maybe?

Thats cool, due to timezone issues i'm going to bed :) Hopefully I'll catch you guys online sometime.

Raw, your on my friends list so count me in for some over-g :D

I don't think I am, but I'll double check. If not I'll send you a FR.
Thurs ok with everyone so far? This way my wife won't skin me for hosting a game when she gets back in town. LOL

Well you were lol. If not then i guess you deleted me :P just not feeling the love right now.

I cant do anything tonight or tomorrow due to commitments elsewhere but possibly on thursday can fly. :D

i look forward to taking the F14 up into combat once again.

i sent you a fr foz. feel the love

Uh oh! Sorry about that. LOL
I do get a little crazy with the housekeeping sometimes. Keeps the FL loading a bit faster.

AHHH, OVERG...... how I miss thee. What a dumbass I was, to trade you in for halo 3.

I'm buying it back after X-mas; it is still the best flight sim on consoles.

If you like flight combat on consoles, it is a must buy.

AC6= utter garbage. It's all sizzle no steak.

I would say the Hawx is even better than AC6.

Thursday actually works better for me too.

Raw, did you post the video of the two of us colliding on the runway? Opposite teams, Raw taking off, me trying to land at the neutral base in the center of the map. Glorious.

one of our guys noeffects6 (callsign TiVo) just posted a new ghostriders vid. apparently his pc crashed so it just black after 2.15 but some good shots anyway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkaQx...ayer_embedded#

Nice clip. Showing the nicest plane to fly on over-g to.... the F14 :D


i've been having a few games over the last few days to try and get back into the swing of things.. i love it.

The way that game was treated is the biggest travesty in the history of the Xbox.

+1

if theres every a sequel i think it would be great to have air to air refueling.

:D

At least we give it the appreciation it deserves. Forget the philistines.

Very true :)

Im just about to fly OVER-G now, was waiting for something to finish downloading. Time to arm my F14 with some phoenix missiles and drop tanks and cause some havoc :D

Failing that i'll practise some carrier landings and take offs.

I find it strange though how i can land on both a carrier and a runway fairly easily, yet i find landing on the carrier much easier??

strange.

try landing a su33 on it

easy ;) even without the tail hook that its supposed to have :D

the F22 is the same, easy to do :D


the F35 (vtol) is a good one to do, looks great lol. Just wish a harrier was in the game or at least some RAF fighters. You can go against them, just cant select them yourself :(

would loved to of flown either a harrier from the carrier deck or the panavia tornado on a strike mission :D now that would of been fun!!

Yeah tis a shame you cant fly a Tornado or EF2K.

I wouldn't say landing the 33 on a carrier is easy, you need to pretty much master the cobra same for the 22. unless your talking touch'n'go. If you're that good get an F-1 down and stopped on it. pics or it didn't happen ;)

The F35 is probably the easiest. There even a few helipads you can land on in area 3. Most make you explode though lol. Have you seen the mayan jet or samurai tanks?

From memory - which is the F1??

I like a challenge so will give it a try.

LOL, haven't read that line in awhile.

Yeah i'd not heard that particular line in a while either lol.

I will give it a shot when i find out which the F1 is, when i have perfected it then someone is getting an invite to see the F1 on the deck of the carrier haha, you see at this moment im not blessed with a good old camera as it decided to die a few months back.

ok im on over-g now and i've remembered what the F1 is....


THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE EASY, if even possible!!


I have one question though.... how can i try to do this on my own without going into challenge mode and getting my ass handed to me? only other way is online but i can do that on my own :(

...the flying pencil.

It always struck me (looks wise at least) as the bastard offspring of an F-4 and 5

You can set a single carrier as and enemt in strike mode. It wont rearm or refuel you but you wont blowup. It will shoot at you for a bit till it runs out of ammo.

Does the carrier landing training mission let you use any jet or just navy ones?

edit; or is that what youve been doing?

How long until it runs out of ammo though?


the scenario mission only lets you use naval jets. Ah well i'll find a way. Had a couple of attempts so far but just cant get the speed to stay down without stalling. Managed to hit the water and when i do get on the deck i plough into the parked F18's :D

back to the drawing board i guess.

dunno about 4 missiles and a few minutes of minigun ammo.

You havnt forgot about the carrier in arena have you? fly nice n low and you should be able to get their unmolested fairly quick (not so quick in a f1) quicker than waiting for the boat to run out of ammo.

thats what i was doing, though in the F1 it takes about 4 hours to get their haha.

Then if you crash... have to do it all again :( nightmare.

tru dat. There's not really much point really you'll be able to get it down after a few goes but ain't no way it's stopping in that distance. Might as well just buzz the tower and look for some nice easy A-50 or E-767's to gun down lol. The thing cant even take sparrows ffs. But still, and if canadian was here he'd whole heartedly agree

F1 FTW!

We loves us some F1 matches.

OUCH nasty challenge. Good luck with that one FOZ!!!! ;)

Good games guys!
Heard the term "flaming fire" on Conan tonight. You know how bad that stuff is. :shock: See, I'm not crazy.

Yeah, plus a Vulcan, a Nimrod and thirteen Victors, and a 4,000-mile map to fly them on, right? :grin:

Air to air refueling could work on the maps we already have. If i play arena mode online then its impossible to fly from your base to the enemies base and back in an F14 without drop tanks and your afterburners on all the way. Without burners then its fine. Going for the realism which i love and respect. Its upto me to manage my fuel consumption accordingly and check everything is ok. If i have drop tanks and i need to be more manouvrable - jetison them, no matter how much fuel is in them.

This game is superb and cannot be faulted really. Its simple yet very effective. We do seriously need to organise a game between a few of us.

Yessir good games to you, and yeah that "flaming" fire is hottest and worst kind:cool:

We'll have to do that again soon.

no what ever gave you that idea:grin:
was 2 vulcans

i just think that if you need fuel but not ammo it would be good to have a TAT circling so that you have the option to stay airbourne, also would need skill so as not to break probe/drouge. Tactial it would mean you dont have to land and take off again to react if your low on fuel.

P.S. cheers for that game.

If we could have had a 2nd map, it might have been fun to have "neutral" airborne refueling like the current map has the central base. You could shoot it down, but you'd be shooting yourself in the foot also to do without it.

Some canyons and land features to hide movement would be nice, like that map with the trains you take out.

how about one of the tripple nipple tankers.
love to see formation refueling.

*heh-heh heh-heh, he said "triple nipple"

Yes, lotsa fun last night. It was nice to dust the ol' Tomcat off again. She still handles like always, ie. a school bus.

I could make this a regular occurrance, at least until Julember rolls around.;)

If anyone is online tonight, i'll play some over-g.

played a couple of games of arena earlier with vulcan, was fun.

Well, sure, but if we're counting airborne reserves/ ones forced to turn back then there were two Nimrods as well; I'm just including those that actually flew their intended flight plans.

ok

Taito have hinted to me in an email that a sequel may be in the works. Also, it has been reported that a magazine listed "World Air Force'' by Taito as an upcoming 360 game for 2010. Fingers crossed..

Oh snap!
I would really like at least ONE jet sim on the PS3. PLEASE.

WHA?!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25.../BugsBunny.gif

Copy-paste man!

http://forums.xbox.com/28140397/ShowPost.aspx

Here's a link to an online petition for a sequel:

overg2fanclub.weebly.com/

Im not to sure :(

I'd seriously love a sequel and i hope you right :D but....


world air force was over g's original name, and so i'm pretty sure world air force is just over g :(

just picked this game up for a stupid amount (£3) has anyone tried it with the ace edge and can tell me what its like as im now looking to pick one up thanx

nice, all the buttons work but the throttle and rudder are on the wrong controls with no way to fix it :(

what do you mean?how are they wrong?

the rudder is on the trottle controls and vice versa. The annoying thing is all the other controls are configurable.