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SeaCat 09-13-2009 10:03 PM

I've gotten the K and not the G-10, and I only fly Bf-109's. I switch between the F-4 and the G-6, I don't really think I'll use the G-10 too much. I tried the K-4 once and it just couldn't contend with the spitfires and yaks on sim. However, I was trying to be the wingman of a Spitfire, so I couldn't properly get any Boom and Zoom action going. The K definitely has firepower, though.

fuzzychickens 09-13-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaCat (Post 100707)
I've gotten the K and not the G-10, and I only fly Bf-109's. I switch between the F-4 and the G-6, I don't really think I'll use the G-10 too much. I tried the K-4 once and it just couldn't contend with the spitfires and yaks on sim. However, I was trying to be the wingman of a Spitfire, so I couldn't properly get any Boom and Zoom action going. The K definitely has firepower, though.

Hopefully on ps3 with PC stick and deadzone adjustment - BnZ with 109k4 and mk108 (grenade lobbing cannon of death) will be useful.

Nothing was more fun than dropping a couple mk-108 shells into an unsuspecting BnZ victim with the K-4 in 1946.

AVCG Stone 09-14-2009 06:49 AM

if your fighting at 20,000ft or 6,100 metres then k4 definatly dominates g6 i think as for g-10 dont know ill have to fly it before i can make judgement but im guessing it will be a improved model of the g-6 with attributes close to matching the k-4

cheapas1210 09-15-2009 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stryker333 (Post 100585)
I believe the G6 is better than the K4 imo.

nail on head

edal86 09-15-2009 05:45 PM

got the bf 109 g10 yesterdar and I would say that it is like flying the g2 but it is faster than g2 by aound 20 k/h. it carries 2 mg and 1 cannon. i feel that it turns the same way. won my first dogfight with it on sim against spitfire II. other than that nothing crazy, i would say unlock to have another bf 109 skin ;)

MorgothNL 10-05-2009 09:52 PM

Well, I finaly have the G-10.. and it is a bummer :(. I'm starting to like the me109's, they are more fun to fly than the spit, because you need to do more than turning to win the battle.
I've been flying with the K-4 and F-4 mostly till I unlocked the G-10.

The G-10 flies ok, but its cannons leave a questionamark :confused:. Isnt the G-10 supposed to have a powerfull 30mm nosecannon? This one has the same armament as the F-4 and G-2. It turns worse, and is only slightly faster :(. I thought it would fly it bit nicer than the K-4, and had a 30mm.

the G-10 is crap :( no reason what so ever to pick this one over a F-4 or K-4/G-6.

Devs... could you plz give it a 30mm cannon :rolleyes:
And while we are at it, maybe have a look at the 37mm????? yak-9T cannon (its not a 37mm, it feels like 3.7mm)
Or how about the K-4 without the gunpods.. the 30mm cannon and 2 machineguns are all I need, its a shame the gunpods are no choice, they ruin the manouvrebility of the K-4:(

Sorry for bringing up this old post, but I wanted to share my opinion on the G-10, now that I finally have it

Soviet Ace 10-05-2009 10:27 PM

I actually prefer the F4 or G2 to the other 109s, but that's me. They seem to handle better for what I have the notches set at. The G10, either on BoP or 1946, I never liked it because of its weight. Same with the K4, I always stuck with the Fs and G2.

MorgothNL 10-05-2009 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 108482)
I actually prefer the F4 or G2 to the other 109s, but that's me. They seem to handle better for what I have the notches set at. The G10, either on BoP or 1946, I never liked it because of its weight. Same with the K4, I always stuck with the Fs and G2.

I like how the F-4 flies. But it armament seems to be verry weak. The 109's fly worse than the spits, any turning battle with a spit will be lost by the 109. So, when I DO get behind the spits etc, I want the armament to shoot them down in a burst. The G-6 and K-4 can do this, but they dont fly well.

The 109's just feel underpowerd. Their nosecannon shoot rip appart wings with easy, but the armament if the spits, feels at least 3x as powerfull. this combined with the better manouvrebility of the spits, gives no reason to take a 109 :confused:.

I fly 109 now because I like the challenge. But whenever I come up against someone just as good as me, but in a spit, there is not much I can do. Even if im able to get behind him, than the armament of the F-4 will not have the power to instantly kill him. With the spit a burst is often more than enough.

Just a question now after this: was the 20mm nosecannon more powerfull than the 20mm cannons of the spits? (talking about real historical planes)

Soviet Ace 10-05-2009 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MorgothNL (Post 108484)
I like how the F-4 flies. But it armament seems to be verry weak. The 109's fly worse than the spits, any turning battle with a spit will be lost by the 109. So, when I DO get behind the spits etc, I want the armament to shoot them down in a burst. The G-6 and K-4 can do this, but they dont fly well.

The 109's just feel underpowerd. Their nosecannon shoot rip appart wings with easy, but the armament if the spits, feels at least 3x as powerfull. this combined with the better manouvrebility of the spits, gives no reason to take a 109 :confused:.

I fly 109 now because I like the challenge. But whenever I come up against someone just as good as me, but in a spit, there is not much I can do. Even if im able to get behind him, than the armament of the F-4 will not have the power to instantly kill him. With the spit a burst is often more than enough.

Just a question now after this: was the 20mm nosecannon more powerfull than the 20mm cannons of the spits? (talking about real historical planes)

Umm... both are equally powerful. They're both 20mm in size, but I believe the Spitfires 20mm cannons fired a bit faster?

MorgothNL 10-05-2009 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 108488)
Umm... both are equally powerful. They're both 20mm in size, but I believe the Spitfires 20mm cannons fired a bit faster?

Thought maybe the nosecannon 20mm was a heavier shell, or an 'exploding' one.
Hmz, so the cannons are equal,but the spit has 2 and fire faster:(
So ehm, maybe a stuppid question, but where does the 109 exel the spit in? (dont say speed because thats a tiny difference)

EDIT:
I just found this table http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver...n/fgun-ta.html
More or less half way, there is the spit mk IX with the 4 x 7.7mm and 2x 20mm and exactly under the IX, there is the G-6. This G-6 is armed with a 20mm cannon and 2x 13mm.
So those 2 are have the same armament as the IX in game, and, lets say the 109 F-4 (the G-6 in game has gunpods).

If you look at the table, the weight of fire of the 109 is HIGHER. It is 2.46 kg per second, and the spit has 2.24 kg per second.
Looking at this, I would asume that the 109's armament should kill quicker than the spit's.

Do I just have a lot of bad luck with the 109/ luck with the spit? or is the armament of the 109 much weaker than the spits


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