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Elwin 05-17-2009 05:32 PM

Both of you missed one important thing. Armaggeddon is ASTRAL damage type not fire, it damages alos the blackies ... And yes right armageddon isnt much for large ancient ent stacks (10+) .. I couldnt kill such with 2 armagedons even having 42 int, prismatic helmet and dragon cape ...
About availability of armageddon, i played 3 games and always had it in demonis and in some other places i think its not that hard to find it

DGDobrev 05-17-2009 06:29 PM

Even if it's astral damage, it can't kill much. 80 cursed ghosts (which karador had on impossible) x 60 HP is 4800 hp.

It may actually be an interesting test to stack up on mana, intellect and rage and try to do a 2x armageddon + Black hole combo, but I doubt that a mage can get enough rage to cast a decent black hole anyway.

Razorflame 05-17-2009 09:49 PM

well get more int :>
^^
someone should test some how much INT u can get
i do believe some recorded already an INT of 51
that would mean a 10% increase of damage..

DGDobrev 05-17-2009 09:57 PM

If you get 51 INT, that would mean 70% increase in damage, since for each 7 points of intellect, your magic damage improves by 10% and 7x7 is 49. I don't know how the game mechanics work, but if we assume that the best scenario is that you can get as much as 1800 astral damage from 2 x armageddon + max destroyer, 1800 + 70% = 3060. Still not that big of a bang against the tougher armies in impossible at the cost of 100 mana. Still if you can combine this with some, say, 1000 damage from black hole, although it's doubtful you'll be able to get that much rage, since you'll invest heavily in int and mana... With 4060 damage in the beginning of the first round by spells and rage I can agree that it will most certainly weaken the enemy army enough for your own units to beat the crap out of it.

Razorflame 05-17-2009 10:01 PM

that is still a crapload of damage though ^^
and bare in mind that unit in the center of the map GET MORE DAMAGE:>

DGDobrev 05-17-2009 10:21 PM

It is, I don't dispute that :) However, if the army is strong, I doubt one would want to waste all his mana in just 1 turn, provided he has that much :)

Elwin 05-17-2009 11:06 PM

3k dmg for armagedon? its crap if u ask me .. i had like 4k damge for flaming arrow ~~5,5k damage with pole axe, 7k damage ice snake and armageddon was 9k. and its for 42 int not 52 ~~

Ryastar 05-17-2009 11:19 PM

EACH point of INT adds 10% damage. Every 7 points gives a BONUS 10%. It's been explained multiple times before on this forum, though not in game.

Zuvio 05-18-2009 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razorflame (Post 76670)
that is obviously not the best tactic:)

for a real killer combo u can just go

max black dragons+ armageddon

there are HARDLY enemies stacks that can SURVIVE 2 armageddons

so in this CASE
CHAOS level 3+destroyer level 3 and higher magic FTW

would own your tactic easy ^^


Right, because all level 19 warriors entering the Dead Lands have 49 INT, 100+ mana and armageddon spell at Chaos level 3...

Razorflame 05-18-2009 09:08 AM

it was just an post about his BEST TACTIC there is..

there is no best tactic


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