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tagTaken2 02-19-2009 05:51 AM

Disk.

I don't want something that forces me to connect my gaming pc to the net, either.

ZaltysZ 02-19-2009 08:20 AM

First of all, you don't buy a game, you buy the license to play the game and the media (physical or digital) with game copy in it. Of course, if you have enough money and are allowed, you will be able to buy the game and even developing company, but if you are just end-user of game style buyer, you won't own it. This is applicable to almost all software, be it games, OS or etc.

Evilness or goodness of some DRM systems and schemes are just urban legends. I see the tendency that the more is hidden from the user the happier he is. Starforce was pain when it was introduced, because of teething problems with earlier versions and because it was hard to crack it back then. Most fuss was made by piracy folks; they published some details and increased paranoia. The funny thing that there are other popular DRM systems, which do "evil" stuff: install drivers, rootkits and etc., but no one cares about that, because... they are easily crackable?

If you wait DCS: Black Shark DVD just because you don't like activation scheme of downloadable version, then stop waiting. It was said that international DVD version will need activations over direct internet connection, phone or email. It is intended to be so, because DVD check was cracked in week after release of game in Russia, and developers want more protection to their work now.

=815=TooCooL 02-19-2009 10:35 AM

Those who say he does mind to download the game and have to get his DVDs.. I understand their mind but they got to know that they are really behind the times.

Yeah, they are honest and faithful people to sim makers.
But they could never imagine how many copys of IL-2 have been pirated and how DRM goes well with games these days.
Be it steam or Star force, most people never found serious conflicts with PC and we need every protection to keep sims alive.
Those DRM naysayers are good guys, be sure, but simply outdated and knows but little of the world.

Thunderbolt56 02-19-2009 12:25 PM

Digital content distribution is the way of the future...period.

But, given the choice, I'll always opt for the disk-in-the-hand option myself as long as there is one.

AMVI_YanLee 02-19-2009 01:26 PM

I really prefer the boxed version.

There's something exciting when you go to the store and buy the game.. then u run at home.. the first time you open the box, the handbook... :cool:

S!

Red Dragon-DK 02-19-2009 05:31 PM

As long its not through steam I dont mind downloading the game. I would simply NOT purchase it then.
But I think it should be available no both download and DVD.

nearmiss 02-19-2009 07:36 PM

Good sense says," Oleg will release the BOB SOW through a distributor".

There is just too much impetus created marketing wise by going through distributors. They promote the heck out of products through press releases, trade shows, etc. It is just amazing how much more in sales will be achieved by using a competent distributor.

I wouldn't think Oleg would take the chance on recovering all his already "sunk" costs by doing a download thingy to a the dedicated IL2 few. There are a lot of sales that pass by the cash registers that never perk much interest in the buyer. There are plenty of impulse buyers that would never be interested to do anything with it after they get it. The learning threshold can be pretty tough on alot of people.

Don't bother me to get a copy at Wal-mart, EB, gamestop,etc. I bought the 1946 at wal-mart I didn't flinch at paying retail for it. Then of course I knew what I was getting... an anthology of five plus years of the best air combat simulation game ever developed. LOL

Urufu_Shinjiro 02-19-2009 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 67325)
Well, here are the rule's...would you like to change your vote???



Activation
The English version has 8 activations and 10 deactivations. The Quick Start Guide (pdf) has 26 pages dealing with Activation, Deactivation and Disk Protection. See our comments on this in the Documentation section later in the review.
For our English version, after the simple installation I filled-in the serial number when prompted and was ready-to-fly.
If you have an itch to purchase the Russian version, here's a great how to guide. Pay particular attention to the screen where it describes the Serial Number notice you should receive. That is key, pun intended. Make sure you copy that Serial Number and keep it safe, maybe in a couple of vaults. It's important. You cannot use the product without it.
With the Russian version you get 3 activations and 10 deactivations. Deactivations are used to deactivate an install before the user makes major hardware changes or reinstalls their OS. By deactivating first, they save one of their activations.

I specifically said as long as it was downloadable anywhere any time and was like steam or something. I highly doubt SoW will be like blackshark, and I will not download Blackshark due to the restrictions. The question wasn't "will you download SoW if it is like blackshark?", it was would you download SoW, I answered that question.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ZaltysZ (Post 67355)
Starforce was pain when it was introduced, because of teething problems with earlier versions and because it was hard to crack it back then. Most fuss was made by piracy folks; they published some details and increased paranoia.

That is complete bullcrap and I'm tired of the people who say "only people who complain about DRM are pirates". How can you say that when you know full well the crap people are going through with the Securom on Il2:1946 and Vista. And I know personally several people who's pc's were literally damaged by Starforce, that crap was the devil! The pirates don't complain about DRM, because they DON'T HAVE DRM, they crack it, it's the legitimate user that suffers, like all the people who post on the Ubi forums every day saying they bought 1946 and it wont tun because of securom!

ZaltysZ 02-19-2009 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro (Post 67423)
That is complete bullcrap and I'm tired of the people who say "only people who complain about DRM are pirates". How can you say that when you know full well the crap people are going through with the Securom on Il2:1946 and Vista. And I know personally several people who's pc's were literally damaged by Starforce, that crap was the devil! The pirates don't complain about DRM, because they DON'T HAVE DRM, they crack it, it's the legitimate user that suffers, like all the people who post on the Ubi forums every day saying they bought 1946 and it wont tun because of securom!

I see you are that kind of person who likes reading text without paying attention to details. Sadly, you are normal by nowadays standards. :(

SlipBall 02-19-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro (Post 67423)
I specifically said as long as it was downloadable anywhere any time and was like steam or something. I highly doubt SoW will be like blackshark, and I will not download Blackshark due to the restrictions. The question wasn't "will you download SoW if it is like blackshark?", it was would you download SoW, I answered that question.


Yes,...please forgive me on that


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