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Chivas 12-18-2008 04:48 AM

Ubi wasn't interested in letting Oleg post updates until the sim was closer to release. Oleg then started posting limited updates on this forum. Not sure if the updates were vague because they didn't want to get into a pissin* contest with UBI or they didn't want to give the competition any heads up on features.

Who knows if UBI is still envolved. Even finding IL-2 1946 on their site store is difficult. Under simulations they only list the early releases of the IL-2 series. You have to do a search for IL-2 1246 to find it. UBI hasn't said a word about SOW since they annouced a release date of end of 2006. We know Oleg wasn't ready to release a dumbed down version of the game so there may be some head butting. Or everything could be hunky-dory and they will start advertising the existance of SOW in the suitable time frame.

I don't have a problem with waiting. We will get plenty of updates when the time is right.
People have been pining for advertising to start for the last 3 years and it would have been a total waste of money if it had of started back then.

Tree_UK 12-18-2008 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by IceFire (Post 62362)
Phone who? Their customer service people? Like they know anything about games in development and various partnerships. Its definitely worthy to not assume anything these days...Ubisoft might not be the publisher in the end...but I doubt a phone call will clear it up.

When i phoned UBi in the UK, i originally spoke to a receptionist, i asked him if i could speak to someone about the release date of SOW, , he asked what type of game was it because he had not heard of it, i told him its a flight sim. I was then transferred to a guy that had worked with the IL2 series. He knew all about OLeg and Il2 and he had a little knowledge of SOW but insisted that it was nothing to do with Ubi, he then said that i should talk to another guy who was much better informed than himself, he put me through. This guy knew all about 1C and Oleg and about SOW, his words to me were that Ubisoft were no-longer involved with the project. Which when you think about it makes sense, according to Oleg the game should be released within a year, so you would imagine that if Ubisoft were involved they would of already started to get the marketing ball rolling.
It could be that the guys at Ubisoft all told me a pack of lies, it could be that i am telling a pack of lies! However since no-one else has bothered to make a call to check then this is the best info i can give you. It matters little to me anyhow, because it is obvious now that this sim will be released whoever publishers it, but from my info i dont think it will be ubi.

Tree_UK 12-18-2008 11:33 AM

Update, just phoned UBi again and made out i worked for a leading games magazine and that i wanted to speak to someone about SOW, i got to speak to Ubi's group brand manager James O’Reilly. He knew all about SOW but said its nothing to do with Ubi, he said i think 505 are dealing with it, then he said i will just call them to find out, he then told me that he had spoke to 505 and they were not involved, he said hang on a minute, and i heard him ask his team if anyone knew who was dealing with SOW Battle of Britain, no-one knew. I said that lots of company's were taking pre-orders stating that Ubisoft were the publishers. He was aware of this and said that Ubi was in the process of rectifying this. He then said look give me your phone number and i will find out who is the publisher and call you back. So watch this space.

Chivas 12-18-2008 04:54 PM

Interesting Tree...Maybe that's why Oleg stated that the group hired to build the official site would not be available until the end of this year. If it were UBI they already had the SOW site mostly built a year or so ago and manpower to finish before then. Then again the site Oleg is taking about could be just the eastern publisher. If UBI is gone their should have been some kind of annoucement unless the lawyers are still involved.

KG26_Alpha 12-18-2008 06:47 PM

I would prefer to order and purchase direct from 1c be it download or DVD in the post.

I thought Oleg/1c and UBI parted company a long time ago over the PF fiasco Luthier created and the pay outs that had to be made to certain aircraft company/companies ?

WTE_Galway 12-18-2008 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 62445)
I would prefer to order and purchase direct from 1c be it download or DVD in the post.

I thought Oleg/1c and UBI parted company a long time ago over the PF fiasco Luthier created and the pay outs that had to be made to certain aircraft company/companies ?

I suspect the UBI policy of using the evil Sony Securerom root kit on all non-US 1946 DVD's has not helped sales either.

Tree_UK 12-19-2008 03:41 PM

Just had a call from James O’Reilly at ubisoft, he has told me that despite his best efforts he cannot find anyone who knows anything about who the publishers will be for SOW, he said he has phoned nearly all the leading game publishers. He also said only a small minority of guys that he had spoken to had actually heard of it. I asked him if he had spoken to people who were at the same level as him i.e. Group brand manager, he said yes. he also said that if found any info out he would let me know in the future. I think from this info it is now fairly safe to say that Ubi are not involved.

KG26_Alpha 12-19-2008 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 62523)
Just had a call from James O’Reilly at ubisoft, he has told me that despite his best efforts he cannot find anyone who knows anything about who the publishers will be for SOW, he said he has phoned nearly all the leading game publishers. He also said only a small minority of guys that he had spoken to had actually heard of it. I asked him if he had spoken to people who were at the same level as him i.e. Group brand manager, he said yes. he also said that if found any info out he would let me know in the future. I think from this info it is now fairly safe to say that Ubi are not involved.

Why are you so concerned ?

I'm sure Oleg/1c will have the distribution sorted without your efforts.

Relax its nearly Christmas !!!!!

Have fun this holiday all :grin:

SlipBall 12-19-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 62523)
Just had a call from James O’Reilly at ubisoft, he has told me that despite his best efforts he cannot find anyone who knows anything about who the publishers will be for SOW, he said he has phoned nearly all the leading game publishers. He also said only a small minority of guys that he had spoken to had actually heard of it. I asked him if he had spoken to people who were at the same level as him i.e. Group brand manager, he said yes. he also said that if found any info out he would let me know in the future. I think from this info it is now fairly safe to say that Ubi are not involved.



There may have been a falling out between the parties, after UBI announced a release date a couple of years ago, and !c said sorry but...noway!. Maybe UBI yanking financial support, and right to publish, after realizing how distant release would be :-P

IceFire 12-19-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 62523)
Just had a call from James O’Reilly at ubisoft, he has told me that despite his best efforts he cannot find anyone who knows anything about who the publishers will be for SOW, he said he has phoned nearly all the leading game publishers. He also said only a small minority of guys that he had spoken to had actually heard of it. I asked him if he had spoken to people who were at the same level as him i.e. Group brand manager, he said yes. he also said that if found any info out he would let me know in the future. I think from this info it is now fairly safe to say that Ubi are not involved.

Thanks Tree. Thats rather more indepth than I had assumed!

Its very interesting because Ubisoft did indeed make the press release back a couple of years ago. Its interesting that they are apparently no longer involved in the project. I wonder what will happen now.

1C was expanding their publishing presence into North America...so maybe it will be a strictly 1C publication. Which is fine with me too.


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