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bongodriver 12-21-2012 12:09 PM

One could argue they should have seen it earlier then, do you really believe it's coincidence that CoD got binned after getting completely raped by the community?

Fjordmonkey 12-21-2012 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 489496)
One could argue they should have seen it earlier then, do you really believe it's coincidence that CoD got binned after getting completely raped by the community?

I don't think it's a coincidence at all, since I don't think that 1C's decision to axe CLoD had anything to do with the vileness of this community. In the end, I think it was still a "money talks, bullshit walks" type of thing.

bongodriver 12-21-2012 12:18 PM

Well it was our money that should have been doing the talking instead of bitching, but now we have people queing up to pay for BoS despite their dev updates reading like....

can we have...

NO

will it do....

NO

Fjordmonkey 12-21-2012 12:20 PM

True enough, Bongo. Then again, BoS will only share the name of IL2, but seemingly not it's depth. Of course, that might change down the road, but I'm treating it as something completely different than IL2, even if it shares the name. Whether I buy it or not will remain to be seen, and it depends a LOT on the info they give out in the coming months.

JG52Krupi 12-21-2012 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey (Post 489501)
True enough, Bongo. Then again, BoS will only share the name of IL2, but seemingly not it's depth. Of course, that might change down the road, but I'm treating it as something completely different than IL2, even if it shares the name. Whether I buy it or not will remain to be seen, and it depends a LOT on the info they give out in the coming months.

Same here, given what ROF is I am hopeful but I need to see what the cockpits look and there interaction is like before I preorder.

fruitbat 12-21-2012 12:42 PM

What Krupi? You Don't belive that BoS will be the best thing ever ever ever in the world......

Burn the Heretic i say....

Oh wait....

Fjordmonkey 12-21-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 489502)
Same here, given what ROF is I am hopeful but I need to see what the cockpits look and there interaction is like before I preorder.

Even when I see it, I will have my skeptical-pants on, and those are damn hard to remove!

I can't believe I said that...

JG52Krupi 12-21-2012 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey (Post 489527)
Even when I see it, I will have my skeptical-pants on, and those are damn hard to remove!

I can't believe I said that...

LOL compared to what some have posted over the last few years its really not that bad :P

Fjordmonkey 12-21-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 489528)
LOL compared to what some have posted over the last few years its really not that bad :P

Good point, but still :P

ATAG_Snapper 12-21-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RickRuski (Post 489427)
........Maybe 1C should have as suggested, tried 777s business model from the start, but with the initial release based on the Battle of Britain it would be difficult to add more planes and keep it historically within the time frame.

WRT your above thoughts, here were mine in a similar vein which I had posted on our ATAG forum -- with the emphasis on "20/20 hindsight", of course:


With 20/20 hindsight (of course) I wish MG could've started off a LOT simpler with CoD following a similar release model to their successful IL2 Sturmovik release. Instead of immediately branching off in all directions, they could've focussed on fewer planes and ground objects, a smaller map -- but getting it all RIGHT the first time. Example:

1) Battle of France: Hurricane MK1 (2-speed), 109E1, Blenheims, Ju87's, 110's. MAP: NW France, Low Countries. Sunny weather only. Cost: $50

2) Dunkirk Evacuation: add: Spitfire MK1 (2-speed), Beaufighters, 109E3, 110's, Ju88's. MAP: East Coast airfields. No added weather Cost: $50

3) Channel War: add: Spitfire 1a, Hurricane MK 1 Rotol, 109E4, He111. MAP: no addition. Weather: Heavy cumulous, overcast. Cost: $50

4) RAF airfields: add: flyable Wellingtons, Dornier17's MAP: add Sector 11 SE England less London. Weather: rain, thunder, lightning. Cost: $50

5) London Blitz: add: Spitfire 2a's, Me262's (anyone reading this far?) Map: London, Sector 12, Weather: fog_peasoup_version. Cost: $50

Of course, above is an oversimplification and we can certainly argue plane types, ground object inclusion, radar, FMB, etc etc. But you get the gist. MG/1C could've milked us by five times over AND WE WOULD HAVE PAID -- IF -- they focussed on the important stuff and got it right the first time.

This is a genre that sells thousands, not 100K's, of copies. They needed a steady inflow of cash to keep CoD on course. They failed on that IMHO.


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