I'm not surprised they don't want CLOD engine out. If somebody bought the rights for this game and fixed it, it would be the end of the 1C/777 new project.

They don't want that. I also understand why Jasson and Loft didn't want to do the next project on the CLOD engine. It would mean abandoning the ROF community and frankly, why would they do that?

They may go back to something evolved out of CLOD engine at some point, when people don't want to pay for the old ROF engine. We'll see.

This are just games anyway. I won't loose any sleep over this. Based on how world's economies are going, if two three years from now I can still afford a computer and internet connection, I'll be happy.

You are pretty desperate for a silly game. Go buy some emergency supplies for that money. It could save your life down the road.

Why do you try to raise money to buy something of which you don't even know if this good is available at all?

thats the old chicken and the egg scenario

we need both at least 50.000 to pay a few programers for 6 monts, AND have 1C willing to allow a few more months work on it to try and shut the project down in an orderly fashion, instead of the dumping the whole crap overboard they are doing now

gotta start somewhere :)

showing them they dont need to spend the money for that last few months work on the orderly shutdown would be a good first step imho

But I read recently they are now charging by per key stroke entry...not sure were they learned that :confused:

If that's your thought, you should stop thinking, I'd say.

I severely doubt you'd be able to find more than a small handful of people from this community willing to put $500 into a hare-brained scheme that is pretty much doomed straight from the get-go.

Why should 1C sell the code for 50 000 when they stand to make far more than that co-devving/releasing BoS with 777?

and you should try and read and then understand what other people have posted before you "contribute"

this thread isnt about "selling code"

read it again, take 2

Buying the code or hiring 2 devs for 6 months to work on code that you don't own the rights to is on the same level of stupidity.

And even IF you found two devs willing to do contract-work on code you don't own the rights to, putting the new code into distribution would be akin to presenting yourself and anyone involved with the project for a nice, fat lawsuit for copyright-infringement. I severely doubt that the EULA that you accepted when you bought the game gives you access to that, but hey, please go ahead and prove me wrong with your community-made miracle-patch for CLoD.

The title of the post is [/b]can we raise the $$$ to get 1c to release a CoD SDK or other tools ?[/b] Why should 1C even bother to take the money, especially in light of BlackSix' post about how there ISN'T any SDK or tools for the game?

i keep forgetting that all it takes for people to post here is a keyboard and a net connection, somehow i keep expecting to have a civilized discussion with informed individuals who also have an interest in creating the best possible ww2 aviation sim. and each time i am surprised :) you either have a major language problem or a total failure to understand what this thread is aiming to discuss

there is no "new dev's" involved, and no "community-made miracle-patch" , neither do you seem to know the degree to which the sdk was already completed before they stopped work on it some months ago, and you are completely misquoting B6's comment on the SDK

no prize for you today !

i'll give you a hint and some key words, see if you can work it out: "CoD SDK and other tools", "community raising money for short term funding of 2 programmers", "1c only providing small office space and pc's (eg code is still secure with them)", "1c making an effort to discontinue the sim in reasonable working order before abandoning it (ex read goods advertised versus goods received by customers)", you know, that kinda thing :)

now before you start typing next, try and actually understand what is being discussed

btw, what have YOU recently done to try and reduce the disastrous outcome of 1C closing down CoD, thought of anything ? do share your deep and profound thoughts with us on how we can improve the situation, and if you havnt, just say thank you to those that do, and quietly be on your way....

From your original post, Zappydearest:

as a ballpark, if 100 people would contribute 500$ each (50.000 $ total), thats a decent chunk of money that might fund 2 programmers for a year or so (em based on russian salaries being much lower then in the west). or it could fund 4 programers for 6 months

Please tell me where this doesn't mention hiring programmers, also known as devs (short for developers).

What have I done to try to reduce a disastrous outcome? Nothing. It's not up to me what 1C does with a product they have developed and put on the market. I have accepted the EULA that the product was sold with, and I accepted the conditions and terms of the purchase when I hit the buy-button in Steam. I accepted that the product was sold as-is, that 1C could do whatever they wanted with it whenever they wanted to without telling/asking me about it. Which, incidentally is the EXACT same thing that all of those who bought it did.

My deep and profound thoughts on how to improve the situation is to quit expecting 1C to giving out the sourcecode, and quit thinking that the community can fix it without unrestricted access to the sourcecode.

And again, why in heavens name should 1C provide a small office and computers plus access to any tools and/or SDK's that might or might not exist, especially now that they're in partnership with 777 to create BoS? Without being privy to the contract between the two companies, I'm fairly sure that 1C isn't really interested in releasing a competing product, or helping what would be a competing product undercut profits. Just in case you've missed the point, 1C is a business-company first and foremost, and in such things there's one golden rule: Money talks, bullshit walks. You, my friend, are out walking.

So no, I will not say thanks and leave. But please continue to try to make me.