Official Fulqrum Publishing forum

Official Fulqrum Publishing forum (http://forum.fulqrumpublishing.com/index.php)
-   IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover (http://forum.fulqrumpublishing.com/forumdisplay.php?f=189)
-   -   The most effective rudder ever (http://forum.fulqrumpublishing.com/showthread.php?t=34715)

Sternjaeger II 10-02-2012 09:01 PM

it's not a major bug, check 1:08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkEmm...eature=related

aerobatic routines are made by exasperated manoeuvres normally, but you can easily get a controlled spin going with a high performance aerobatic aeroplane. I can't tell from the video whether you had any throttle in, but if you did then it's quite plausible cos you're keeping the rudder in a strong slipstream, if not then yes, that's a bit of a bug. The sink rate is probably a bit too generous (the stall speed for these beasties is around 57kts), but bear in mind that you have quite a generous symmetrical profile wing surface and control surfaces and rudders in particular are VERY efficient in this family of aerobatic aircraft. The Su-26 can really hang from the propeller and hover there, so yes, extreme aerobatics are achievable.

I haven't tried the new plane yet, but I'd be more concerned about stuff torque effects and gyroscopic precession. Do you have any of that?

Freycinet 10-02-2012 09:22 PM

From 1:30 the Su-26 is hanging by the prop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKq3w__trIA

The Su-26 is a crazy plane, and even though it looks a bit wrong in the original poster's vid I think that when you reach these extremes of flight any sim is struggling to completely faithfully model the reality of flight "at the edge of the envelope". It would take a Cray supercomputer (probably churning through data for a night and not rendering in real-time) to totally correctly model the ultra-chaotic Mandelbrot world of aerodynamics...

planespotter 10-02-2012 09:23 PM

This is why ntil now they didnt release Su26. It is unserious FM.

LoBiSoMeM 10-02-2012 09:26 PM

My Su-26 can do amazing things in CloD!!!

[youtube]S4kqVjmEtV4[/youtube]

Freycinet 10-02-2012 09:29 PM

BTW I saw the Su-26 myself at Le Bourget in the early 00's and couldn't believe it when it hung by the prop for more than a minute like a helicopter, with no loss of alt.

planespotter 10-02-2012 09:31 PM

I saw same in Toronto with a P 51 pilot. Zoom climb, hang there forever. Awesum. In Cliffs of Dover u can also do it in the Stuka.

Freycinet 10-02-2012 09:33 PM

must have been a modded P-51 then?

planespotter 10-02-2012 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freycinet (Post 466351)
must have been a modded P-51 then?

No, he came down from alt with huge momentum, zoomed up, hung like grapes on a vine, fell off onto one wing, no spin, perfect recovery.

ATAG_Doc 10-02-2012 09:49 PM

Wait a minute this is very easy to explain. You see in soviet russia we already have this technology. It's called rudder vectoring.

Heh I was messing around with this last night and was doing the same thing. I wish I could do that in the fighter. That would be awesome!

JG52Krupi 10-02-2012 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc (Post 466360)
Wait a minute this is very easy to explain. You see in soviet russia we already have this technology. It's called rudder vectoring.

Heh I was messing around with this last night and was doing the same thing. I wish I could do that in the fighter. That would be awesome!

Doc, are you sure your not talking about thrust vectoring ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGbOs...eature=related


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:25 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2007 Fulqrum Publishing. All rights reserved.