oh thanks a lot this is the easiest method to obtain longitude:

make a gruesome clock that can be even moved arbitrarily by hand with two exact COUNTEROTATING NEEDLES

you align it west east and count how many times each needle crosses the sun(thanks a lot ; thats the xterior reference point)

after a whole travel around the earth one needel will have crossed the sun one more and the other one less however the beat of the clock

i bet this is how the ancients conquered the pacific islands

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imagine an ancient hawaian obtaining longitude:

the magic wheel in which two needles are countergeared

he is instructed to spin them 100 times per day as he travels

he knows that if he is still since one is following the sun and the other has opposite sense each day he will count one more of one than the other crossing the sun, so each day he adds one to one and substarcts one to the other

but if he travels 80 sunsets around the earth he will count 8001 of one needel crossing the sun while 7999 of the counterneedle crossing the sun while if he had not moved in 80 days would have counted 8000 of both exactly

just please stop. PLEASE, I BEG YOU, STOP!!

Why you have no respect for other people's feelings??

oh but i stopped my crazy stuff due to uther "suggestion"

come on youre pilot dont you love star navigation and the trill of the longitude feat?

dont you think according history proabably ancinet mastered longitude?

I do, but you're not talking about that. In fact, you don't talk about anything. You just throw nonsense and conveniently hop from one topic to another like a crazy bee, because you're a bit like that and we all have to love you for how unique you are..

I still believe that the internet is not a safe place for you and your mental health, and your constant rambling nonsense is evidence of that. Anybody else would have understood by now, either you're crazy (which admittedly you aren't), or you're a troll (which admittedly you are).

There's no room for trolling on forums, you do the maths..

And mind you, I don't want you to be banned, I want you to understand.

well ill stop the crazy ramblings, iove already done, notice my other thread was an artistic consideration in which was the FICTION most beaustifull sky

but this is just maths and its pretty much accepted the ancients had a way to obtain longitude though we dont know how

i their method is based in a virtual counter rotating star and a normal rotating one

if you remain in greenwhich there will be a difference of two revolutions than if you travel around the earth

i would post this in an science forum but i get banned from all, for example i was permabanned from the main physics forums in the net for not accepting the calssical explanation for the boomerang in their own words

creativity and science dont go hand by hand nowadays

yeah... they don't like freethinkers, eh

They also don't like people who claim that a free-body-diagram is nonsense because, "...you have to show all the forces in the system...", and then proceed to tell them how to do physics.

--Outlaw.

i think the main reason cause i post here its with the help of others develop my ideas

the concept is extreamly simple

you have a rudimentary clock(for example one which you move by hand giving it 100 turns each day) with two EXACT counter rotating needels, you count one every time each needel crosses the sun

in greenwhich they will count in 80 days 80 more of one than the other since one follows the sun and other goes contrary

but if you give a revolution to earth there will be an extra offset of two turns than in greenwhich wouldnt happen, since you have a clock that is as a whole turning as you change longitude, now its a matter of a rotating clock with two counterotating needles on its face

actually im in position to talk about this, i got an 8 out of 10 in spheric trigonometry and study several months of star naviagation

i bet any pilot studies star navigation, this is mind challenging stuff for any navigator

if youre to prove a reactionless engine schauberger style in a free body diagram if for every force you paint you MUST paint an oposite according newton is virtually imposible to break the rules and paint a force WITHOUT the opposite, a reactionless force, since youre breaking the very rules

you know what they werent able to answer in no physics forum?:


if a tube is spining on its transversal axe and theres a projectile inside whats the normal force that projectile experiments?

the right answer is none though its making a curve is the equivalent to free fall in artificial gravity, this very thing takes us to schauberger free energy antigravity turbines

but remember as i wrotten in my exam friction is independent of surface, its the same push ten boxes in a row than piled one on other

have you pondered than thinking questioning people are not wellcome?

The origin of science came from free thinkers. What they don't like is idiots with their own agenda that has no basis in anything rational.

Hood