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raaaid 07-04-2012 06:42 PM

what interests me the most of these things is quantum entanglenment

an instant effect even gazillions of lightyears away

doesnt this question causality since the cause-effect are instant?

take this monty hall variation that questions the nature of the arrow of time:

there are four doors just one with a prize

remember: THERES A 1/2 ODD THE PRIZE IS ON AN EVEN OR ODD DOOR

The host discards one door

now according chance you have 1/3 chance to win since there are 3 left doors

not really remember there WAS a 50% cahnce to be the price in odd or pair door

so if the host discarded and odd door you pick the other odd one if a pair you chose the other pair

on this way you hold all the pair or even doors so according the satblished original rule theres a 50% chacne to win not 33.333%

louisv 07-04-2012 06:54 PM

Did you see the Mythbusters episode where they try the monty hall paradox ?

The results are much higher than 50% vs 33% (switch to stand)

Hey I will try it for myself and see...later

Specht 07-04-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by swiss (Post 441292)
Where's raaid?
This is all a LIE!

Careful with what you wish for... :-P

=CfC= Father Ted 07-04-2012 10:22 PM

I'm slightly surprised that no one here has claimed that this discovery is not just some sort of socialist scam designed to screw tax dollars out of the working man.

Ze-Jamz 07-04-2012 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 441307)
what interests me the most of these things is quantum entanglenment

an instant effect even gazillions of lightyears away

doesnt this question causality since the cause-effect are instant?

take this monty hall variation that questions the nature of the arrow of time:

there are four doors just one with a prize

remember: THERES A 1/2 ODD THE PRIZE IS ON AN EVEN OR ODD DOOR

The host discards one door

now according chance you have 1/3 chance to win since there are 3 left doors

not really remember there WAS a 50% cahnce to be the price in odd or pair door

so if the host discarded and odd door you pick the other odd one if a pair you chose the other pair

on this way you hold all the pair or even doors so according the satblished original rule theres a 50% chacne to win not 33.333%

.... exactly

Ze-Jamz 07-04-2012 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by =CfC= Father Ted (Post 441369)
I'm slightly surprised that no one here has claimed that this discovery is not just some sort of socialist scam designed to screw tax dollars out of the working man.

Funny you should say that, the thought did cross my mind..

How much has this project cost again.....

WTE_Galway 07-04-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by =CfC= Father Ted (Post 441369)
I'm slightly surprised that no one here has claimed that this discovery is not just some sort of socialist scam designed to screw tax dollars out of the working man.

Now, now be nice to the Tea Baggers they cannot help it.

Interestingly the Higgs Boson makes it into conservapedia

http://conservapedia.com/Higgs_boson

... but they haven't added the bit about the collider being financed by government funds and hence a hippy/communist scam yet :D





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Originally Posted by louisv (Post 441309)
Did you see the Mythbusters episode where they try the monty hall paradox ?

The results are much higher than 50% vs 33% (switch to stand)

Hey I will try it for myself and see...later


What would be interesting is to see Mythbusters do Schrodinger's Cat ... no wait ....

McFeckit 07-04-2012 11:22 PM

Prisoners dilemma not withstanding....

Are we not straying from the point? The new found particle, known as The Higgs, is a snow flake. The higgs field can be considered as snow, many snow flakes. Some particles have skis and can walk across the snow quite easily. Other particles have snow shoes and find it tiring to walk across the snow. And some particles have no skis or snowshoes, and thus find it quite difficult to walk across the snow. One could therefore argue the slower you move the more mass you have. And that is the essence of the Higgs field.

But the real physics is not whether the Higgs exists, which it does. But rather what does it decay into. Wha does it become after it's finished being a Higgs?

If it becomes something "interesting" then 15 out of 20 research grants over the last 30 years will be justified. But if it is less "interesting" when it decays then physicists will stop trying to become philosophists and get back to work!

Goodbye Super Symetry, hello 9 to 5........well that's my prognosis anyway.

Skoshi Tiger 07-05-2012 12:45 AM

Notice how no-ones talked about, nor discussed is wether the particle is natually emmitted the moment when a black hole is created! ..... well thats my theory, Not a very good theory I admit, because there is not science behind it, but that's how you can tell a great mind!

Only time will tell!
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Has anyone heard any news from Geneva this morning?

Sorry - coudn't help myself

swiss 07-05-2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 441395)
Notice how no-ones talked about, nor discussed is wether the particle is natually emmitted the moment when a black hole is created! ..... well thats my theory, Not a very good theory I admit, because there is not science behind it, but that's how you can tell a great mind!

Only time will tell!
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Has anyone heard any news from Geneva this morning?

Sorry - coudn't help myself

There are(possibly) micro black holes which work differently compared to the black holes made of stars.


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