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Luftwaffepilot 06-21-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 436349)
1) DX9 is in the system requirements, we have to support it.
2) DX9 is very important for our next project, we want to make it a popular game, what will work on maximum variants of PC. Now we are fixing and testing DX9 on CloD engine.
3) The sample of votes from the forum is not representative

Will there be an update tomorrow? Not an update to an update

BlackSix 06-21-2012 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Aer9o (Post 436354)
Thank you for your reply... however I find it quite extrodinary that you think the "sample of votes are not relevant". If you have to fix DirectX 9 so be it but you should not delay the patch by doing so. In some previos update you where talking about a few days for optimising the clouds, another few for the grass etc... this has not materialised, isn`t it ?

It will be a beta patch again as I know. And it's our choise what we want to test at present. All, what was promised, will be in the final patch.

Stirwenn 06-21-2012 12:49 PM

So clearly ask for a patch mate ! :) as for update it is already known : "We're working hard.. blabla... Great improvements... blabla...".
Do not ask for an update that doesn't inform you more than the last 6 months... save time, nerves...

Blackdog_kt 06-21-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aer9o (Post 436347)
With all due respect, the question is not addressed to you! However 300 people voted ...that is an indication that is nothing fundamentally wrong with the Poll! If you do not want to vote this is ok , it`s your choice!


When only 300 people vote in a total of 2629 views, there is definitely something wrong with the poll. You need maybe 10-20 minutes to google and read the most introductory theory on statistics to realize that such a poll is not representative of public opinion within this forum alone, much less the entire community.

Also, out of those 300 people that voted, i saw quite a few saying that "i voted no DX9 only because i don't use it and there is no other option in the poll". Which means that even among those 300, not all are totally against it.

See, when you're a moderator you pretty much have to read everything, so it's hard to miss the "evidence" :-P

Finally, effects are done entirely in DX9 and that's why there are no hit flashes and mini-explosions in the DX10-only test patch.

No DX9 = no effects = probably more patch delays to make the effects from scratch in DX10. Go ahead and convince them to remove DX9 if you want the patch to take longer, i'm sure nobody in the community will have a problem with that :-P , not to mention my job will become much harder as a result.

addman 06-21-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 436349)
1) DX9 is in the system requirements, we have to support it.
2) DX9 is very important for our next project, we want to make it a popular game, what will work on maximum variants of PC. Now we are fixing and testing DX9 on CloD engine.
3) The sample of votes from the forum is not representative

Thank you for that B6! honestly. I hope everybody reads that line over and over and over again so they will finally understand that the few hundred hardcore simming madmen in this insane asylum (forum) are NOT representative of the broader customer base, past future or present.

David Hayward 06-21-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Aer9o (Post 436347)
However 300 people voted ...that is an indication that is nothing fundamentally wrong with the Poll!

The only thing that indicates is that there were 300 people in here who wasted their time responding to a pointless, and flawed, poll.

csThor 06-21-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Aer9o (Post 436344)
We have an overwhelming majority of customers (please check the recent poll) here who think DirectX9 should not interfere or delay regular and much needed patching. Some people think this feature should not be supported at all as it is outdated! Why developers are not considering customer whishes and requirements?

First: An online forum with a limited participation in some thread a random user opened is by no means any more important than the notorious bag of rice falling over somewhere in China.

Second: Your posting style comes across as aggressive, smacks of way too much (falsely) self-appointed importance and makes false claims of speaking for "the community" to boot. Little wonder that people either ignore you, laugh about you or feel irritated. If you stopped posting as if you had any say (which you don't, you don't speak for anyone but yourself) and dropped the drama in your texts you might actually be taken seriously.

Three: You come across like a petulant child who didn't get the sweets he wanted and is now throwing a tantrum to get what he wants. Well, here's news for you: If you want to be seen as an adult, then post like an adult.

:roll:

kestrel79 06-21-2012 02:24 PM

You have to remember only 1-5% of the people who purchase this sim actually check out the forums. We are the HARDCORE fans. We all have super fast computers and lots of cool joysticks because we are the hardcore simmers.

But what about the other 95% who buy this sim, fly it offline, and never touch the forums? Or all the XP users in Russia who this sim is primarily aimed for since 1C is a Russian company? IL2 series is HUGE over there. You can't alienate them.

If they designed this sim just for the couple hundred of people like us who lurk on these forums we wouldn't even have these forums since this project would of long been dead most likely.

Aer9o 06-21-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by csThor (Post 436387)
First: An online forum with a limited participation in some thread a random user opened is by no means any more important than the notorious bag of rice falling over somewhere in China.

Second: Your posting style comes across as aggressive, smacks of way too much (falsely) self-appointed importance and makes false claims of speaking for "the community" to boot. Little wonder that people either ignore you, laugh about you or feel irritated. If you stopped posting as if you had any say (which you don't, you don't speak for anyone but yourself) and dropped the drama in your texts you might actually be taken seriously.

Three: You come across like a petulant child who didn't get the sweets he wanted and is now throwing a tantrum to get what he wants. Well, here's news for you: If you want to be seen as an adult, then post like an adult.

:roll:

You certainly have plenty of time to write all this long essays of stupid criticism! Just look at the facts and figures, what we have paid for, what has been prommised and what has been delivered so far! I am stunned by the bullshit in your " wise and adult like post"!

Aer9o 06-21-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kestrel79 (Post 436390)
You have to remember only 1-5% of the people who purchase this sim actually check out the forums. We are the HARDCORE fans. We all have super fast computers and lots of cool joysticks because we are the hardcore simmers.

But what about the other 95% who buy this sim, fly it offline, and never touch the forums? Or all the XP users in Russia who this sim is primarily aimed for since 1C is a Russian company? IL2 series is HUGE over there. You can't alienate them.

If they designed this sim just for the couple hundred of people like us who lurk on these forums we wouldn't even have these forums since this project would of long been dead most likely.

I can see your point,... fair comment!


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