How much does all the bells and whistles cost and more importantly does it have the ever so coveted coop? And finally what about mission dynamics? Any good? Much appreciated in advanced.

A2A Spitfire wins on FM, cockpits, audio (cockpit sounds & engine & gear rolling, etc.. pretty much everything).

CloD wins only in those areas that it does and A2A doesn't attempt (weapons and damage model).

I don't consider the terrain as part of the argument since that doesn't necessarily reflect the Spitfire as a modelled aircraft (though I do feel that CloD's landscape is better in its default setting).

I'd love to have the A2A Spitfire's level of cockpit detail and instrument functionality in CloD. That would be an AMAZING simulation of air combat.

Has there ever been an air combat sim where you had to manipulate the oxygen mixture to make sure you didn't pass out at altitude? The cockpit vent so the canopy didn't fog? It would give us a true sense of the workload.

Horses for Courses. I love flying the A2A Spitfire and the FSX-adapted English Electric Llightning in FSX. I love the air combat in CoD.

Right now I have to say the A2A FM and general feel is an easy winner. But it can't shoot down 109s :(

I use photo secenery in FSX with Autogenerated scenery off (trees, buildings etc). Above a couple of thousand feet you wouldn't know and I set Forest Off on CoD, it doesn't have any value except to allow targets to hide and I don't generally fight that low down anyway.

Osprey, Frey wrote this about the zoom:

I set up a button on my joystick so that when I hold it down I can zoom in and out by moving my mouse backwards and forwards. It is a button function you can find in the "options" section...

This is a work-around because CoD doesn't have the obvious possibility of setting one joystick button to "zoom in" and another to "zoom out". That would be far better.

I haven't flown the A2A Spitfire, but I would think they would do a very good job on many aspects of the Spitfire, because that all they have to model. I doubt that the flight model would be as good as it would have to be tweaked into the FSX game engine designed for general flying purposes. I guess you'd have to fly the A2A Spitfire in a combat situation against a ME 109 to see how happy you were with the flight model. ;)

How much does all the bells and whistles cost?

A2A Spit with Accusim and the latest update is the most accurrate model ever created for a FS


have a look in this video
at about 8.16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnQjs...layer_embedded

The problem is that A2ASims/Accusim have almost ruined other aircraft for me. Especially the wear&tear simulation is simply amazing. Yesterday night I took the A2A B-17G from my home airport to London, bad weather, some navigation issues and a couple of technical problems made for a rather interesting flight and an even more interesting landing.

For flying, there's currently nothing better IMO than FSX/A2ASims.

there is something 'dead' about the lighting of the aircraft in FSX... both exteriors and cockpits.

Nice, but I would prefer having, bad weather, some navigation issues, technical problems, finding my way to the target, putting bombs on target, fighting off enemy aircraft, finding my way home, finding a way to land my badly damaged aircraft, and getting my crew back to home base alive. But I respect your interest.