Originally Posted by nearmiss (Post 412068)

As I recall the Steam was forced upon Oleg as was the name Cliffs of Dover, just before release from UbiSoft.

Ubisoft is the distributor and owns rights of distribution, except in Russia.

Good luck with your whines and complaints with UbiSoft.

It was too much trouble to separate the Russian version from UbiSoft requirements.

It was best action to go along with UbiSoft for best distribution of COD.

"You can't always get what you want"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toiM1B6E2ww

Originally Posted by DroopSnoot (Post 412125)

Very responsible thread especially from a moderator.

Originally Posted by TheEditor (Post 412085)

I was already using steam before and didn't have a problem with it. Steam has great sales. I'm more worried about the state of CloD.

The IL2 crowd here hate change. That is why they hate steam. Its the mentality of "I got by without it before, why do I need It now." Their old and set in there ways. Now get off my lawn.;)

Originally Posted by II/JG54_Emil (Post 412188)

It sounds ok as long as everything runs fine.

It sucks when it breaks and you can´t access any of the games you bought, like it happend yesterday for entire German Steam community for 24h.

Originally Posted by II/JG54_Emil (Post 412188)

If for some reason Valve goes broke or isn´t reachable anymore you can forget about all of your games.

Originally Posted by Madfish (Post 412165)

Trust me, you won't get anywhere here when pointing out that a moderator acts like a donkey even if he acts like a donkey. Personal experience. All you'll get is a ban - even if they flame you in PM's. :D

That aside I must point out that Steam has pro's and con's.

- Patch distribution is all good. But what do you need it for when you get a patch once a year? (Beta's not included)
- Steam sales? Meaningless in this case as well. I haven't seen a single decent CloD sale on steam. It was sold for 15€ on the web...
- Also... steam is not good when it comes to preventing piracy. There isn't a single steam game which is uncracked.

I have like 4 Steam accounts and probably well over 400 games on them. But I still don't like the decision.


My personal take on it is: Steam is good, and only then, if you want to target younger folks (which isn't bad) AND definitely if you have an awesome online gameplay to offer so people can actually make use of the steam interface, useíng steam groups, friendlist, join friends games etc.

Since the game, campaign and multiplayer is pretty bland I'd say younger folks aren't in the scope. And the multiplayer component needs a bit more patching.



The biggest downside I see is with future expansions and the lack of the SDK. So much content for IL-2 1946 out there but CloD still lacks and I'm not sure if Steam as a platform will allow for this to change. But only time will tell.

Originally Posted by FFCW_Urizen (Post 412207)

Save your login information on your Computer and the next time it happens, switch to offline mode. in all those years, offline mode almost always worked, only if steam went down during a platform update, only then was steam inaccesible.

Originally Posted by II/JG54_Emil (Post 412319)

THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE YESTERDAY FOR ANYONE IN GERMANY THAT COULD NOT CONNECT.

Originally Posted by addman (Post 412076)

I'd like to add to this that I think Steam is a great service, it has some minor quirks but compared to everything else out there it is king, for many reasons.