Which Wiki did that come from? Could you provide the link? Did it have any information on Japanese cannons?

I believe the MG151/20 in-game is modeled with all of those ammo types. If you do detailed testing you can note the individual types of impacts on aircraft with the API, HE, and Mine shells as they all have individual impact effects.

I ask about the Japanese cannons because if anything is going to get a makeover it's the lack of properly modeled Japanese guns. When Japanese planes were first put into IL-2 they added the closest equivalents...sometimes with slight modifications. So the Zero has, for a long time, been using the same MG-FF/M that the Bf109E uses. In real life the Type 99-1 and Type 99-2 (depending on model of Zero) is a related but different cannon. The same applies to the machine guns and turret mounted machine guns and cannons.

There are some Japanese cannons in-game but I'm not sure if they are modeled correctly either. The Ho-103 and Ho-5 are modeled for example but I'm not sure if the belting is correct. What is accurate is the German machine gun and cannon use in the Ki-61-Hei (MG151/20 imported cannons) and the turret gunner on the Ki-45 (flex mount was a German MG). For some strange reason the Ki-43-I uses the Ho-103 but the Ki-43-II uses a Browning .50cal with yellow tracers. It's weird :)

WIKI

The Holy Bible

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_151_cannon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_99_cannon


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LOL, another self proclaimed expert, just what we need. Aren't you one of WD's disciples, Jermin? Has he imparted upon you his special knowledge and insight? I'd have not thought it possible for a mere mortal to contain such knowledge.

Wikipedia is very useful but I was hoping to get ammunition information for each type of round. Very difficult to dig it up. Thanks anyways!

Afaik the MG151/20 in Il-2 has belting of APIT-HE-HE-MG-MG.

Its pretty easy to see that while the tracer is slower and flies a more curved trajectory than of the tracer rounds of Hispano and ShVak, the HE and MG shells fly more flatter path and are easier to hit with. I very often see the tracer fall just behind the target with the explosive rounds hitting.

My personal opinion only but I think MG151/20 vs. Hispano is about OK in il2, and while ShVak is most probably OK destructive power/penetration wise I know the muzzle speed and ballistics are better than they should be.

I wonder why there wasn't a gatling gun in WW2.

Not reliable enough. There were some experiments, but nothing which was ready for operational use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker-Leimberger

http://www.kalashnikov.ru/upload/med...83/058_065.pdf

Also there was no need.

For ground and ship use multiple guns like quad bofors and the wirbelwind did the job well and reliably.

In the air only the me262 needed that sort of ROF.

I guess thats why they wanted Stukas with 4x30mm or He129 with Twins. ;)