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lane 09-27-2011 12:59 PM

Good stuff PPP, thanks for sharing!

Especially this bit:

Quote:

Me: And what about 100 octane fuel? When was that introduced?

JM: Oh, quite early on.

Me: In the Battle of Britain?

JM: No, before the Battle of Britain. [Interesting, so it should be available in game.] It was dyed green. After we finished refuelling the Spitfires, we’d empty what was left in the fuel truck’s hose into our motor bikes! [Brilliant!!] My motor bike’s petrol tank was stained all green on the outside! [Who? Me Sir? No, no, I didn’t pinch the fuel Sir!!] Wasn’t good for the bikes though. Engines weren’t designed for 100 octane and we kept asking the fitters to fix them!
Which allowed for this:
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/lane-26-5-40.jpg

:)

PeterPanPan 09-27-2011 01:33 PM

Excellent find Lane. Not related are you?!

PPP

furbs 09-27-2011 02:42 PM

You didn't ask about TRACERS!!!!! FAIL!!!!

:) joking, great interview, wish i could spend a whole day talking to them(i would provide beer and food)

VO101_Sanyo 09-27-2011 03:26 PM

Very interesting read, thanks PeterPanPan! :)

MB_Avro_UK 09-27-2011 03:36 PM

Excellent interview!

We need some sort of database to record all these gems and others before they are lost forever.

Trumper 09-27-2011 04:38 PM

:) Thank you for talking to these real heroes :)

BRIGGBOY 09-27-2011 06:12 PM

absolutely brilliant thx for sharing. nice to get some proper clarification on 100 octane fuel by someone who refueled the planes.

sevsterinos 09-27-2011 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sutts (Post 341338)
Thanks for your efforts PPP, a great read and some nice info in there. If you manage to catch a pilot again please ask about the negative G cutout issue..would be great to understand that one.

Cheers

For those who wonder about the negative G cutout issue, I believe in real life it was exactly like in CoD. Check this video, check out the minute 6.25

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slM-I...eature=related

the hurricane and spitfire pilot says he says something like ''you put your stick forward and the engine immediately cuts''.

I think we should trust devs more with their research in general terms, I would expect the complains about speeds to be also true in the game as I would think that the official data don't show the max speeds with the plane fully loaded with ammo and fuel. I could be wrong there, but I guess the devs did enough research on many aspects of the game, especially the engine and FM. Not that it couldn't be improved.... :)

cheers

seven

phoenix1963 09-27-2011 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by furbs (Post 341418)
You didn't ask about TRACERS!!!!! FAIL!!!!

They were also dyed green so you could see them from 20,000 ft and steal the kill in your 110 octane luftwhiner's 109Z.

56RAF_phoenix

klem 09-27-2011 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sevsterinos (Post 341511)
For those who wonder about the negative G cutout issue, I believe in real life it was exactly like in CoD. Check this video, check out the minute 6.25

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slM-I...eature=related

the hurricane and spitfire pilot says he says something like ''you put your stick forward and the engine immediately cuts''.

I think we should trust devs more with their research in general terms, I would expect the complains about speeds to be also true in the game as I would think that the official data don't show the max speeds with the plane fully loaded with ammo and fuel. I could be wrong there, but I guess the devs did enough research on many aspects of the game, especially the engine and FM. Not that it couldn't be improved.... :)

cheers

seven

I don't want to push this thread off track but actually he says ''you stuff your stick forward and the engine immediately cuts''

For anyone who doesn't know, that means you shove it forward quickly and very definitely and I would expect the engine to cut then as you would be inducing a severe reduction in G, probably even to negative G. Bear in mind this is the sudden reaction to finding yourself near the stall with the need to get out of that situation as quickly as possible.

There is a summary on this forum by a current Hurricane Mk1 pilot which goes into more detail. I believe the cutout is coming into effect at too low a reduction in G, possibly around a reduction of 0.3G rather than a reduction to 0.3G


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