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wannabetheace 08-02-2011 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by albx (Post 318225)
First of all, you can't compare a camera mounted on a gun or a plane with what your eyes see
sure, but you can see what would be if it is guncam of a plane. just imagine don't need to see it by your eyes;)

wannabetheace 08-02-2011 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by retrojet (Post 318232)
You know, I'm not into guns, but I live in the US...
The good guys and the bad run with them... It's a fact of life here... It's the way of the world, more so than ever before... I don't like them, but if anyone were to threaten me or my family, hell yer!
Knowing how to handle a gun is just a necessary evil, to combat evil!

Sad though...
sorry I don't get what u mean. it is kind of off topic. I don't mean to show it from airsoft view.

CaptainDoggles 08-02-2011 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by wannabetheace (Post 318252)
speaking of military I see some documentary that some sas teams train with airsoft guns so do the american special forces. they even have their brand supplier called systema.
everyone can't be swat or whatever specialists they what. but it is cheap way to experience it while living ur everyday life.
I don't believe for a second that SAS and American special forces use airsoft. You train with the gear that you use in the field, and airsoft guns aren't as loud, aren't as heavy and don't have nearly as much recoil as real weapons. Not to mention the muzzle velocities are way lower.

General dynamics makes what is called Simunition, a variety of different rounds that can be fired through real weapons. My military friends say they use this when they train; I'd be willing to bet that most other armed forces use similar products.

wannabetheace 08-02-2011 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles (Post 318262)
I don't believe for a second that SAS and American special forces use airsoft. You train with the gear that you use in the field, and airsoft guns aren't as loud, aren't as heavy and don't have nearly as much recoil as real weapons. Not to mention the muzzle velocities are way lower.

General dynamics makes what is called Simunition, a variety of different rounds that can be fired through real weapons. My military friends say they use this when they train; I'd be willing to bet that most other armed forces use similar products.
believe it or not. I saw it my own eyes on some sas documentary. yes u'r right. it doesn't have that recoil and not that loud. other part are just same. same operation u need same handling. and weight is same depending of which brand replica is used. not even weapon specialist can't distinguish when they have it on their hand until they pull the trigger. most training is just honing their skill like reload and other stuffs and tactics, teamwork. Sure they use other training gears. I think they use all of them.

SQB 08-02-2011 09:50 AM
Airsoft is played by "tacticool noobs" in the same way arma is...

It is effectively a step up from milsims, and as such is VERY fun.


I have a rifle and have tracer rounds, i can CONFIRM that there is NEVER any tracer "wiggle". If you really are so strongly opinionated towards tracer wiggle, go to a shooting range at dusk and ask to see some tracer shots, the one near me often has night shoots.

swiss 08-02-2011 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles (Post 318218)
Airsoft is basically a bunch of Tacticool noobs who run around with guns that shoot plastic pellets, pretending to be SWAT teams.
Sure, but what about flight simmers?
Nerds, living in the basement pretending to be WW2 pilots.
As the only sit on a chair, thats way worse.

Sternjaeger II 08-02-2011 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by wannabetheace (Post 318205)
For those how say tracers don't look like the ones in the film :).
Here is a video footage where u can clearly see how tracers are seen when camera shakes. This is an airsoft night game with tracer bbs. hope u guys like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyQBP...el_video_title

btw, airsofting is my another hobby besides IL2 :).
Erm, no.

It's like you're trying to explain how a firefly works using a lightbulb: they might look similar, but it's not the same thing.

swiss 08-02-2011 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles (Post 318262)
General dynamics makes what is called Simunition, a variety of different rounds that can be fired through real weapons. My military friends say they use this when they train; I'd be willing to bet that most other armed forces use similar products.
You forgot to mention that Sim ammo is lethal. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simunition

swiss 08-02-2011 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 318286)
Erm, no.

It's like you're trying to explain how a firefly works using a lightbulb: they might look similar, but it's not the same thing.
ROFL!!!
I almost spilled my coffee.

wannabetheace 08-02-2011 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 318286)
Erm, no.

It's like you're trying to explain how a firefly works using a lightbulb: they might look similar, but it's not the same thing.
that's the point. I didn't mean same but similar. just see the difference btw camera mounted bb tracer and other tracer that shot by other people. if u see the difference then u can imagine the difference by pilot guncam tracer and pilot see the tracer by their own eyes.


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