Sooo....... is that a "No I dare not do that!"?

Seriously, you are reading too much in to one users post (mine) as we are no community or gang here, in my humble opinion, only a handful of Il2 aficionados and user that each and every one only speaks for him- or herself. Your opinion is as valued as mine and as long as we observe the rules we are free to express it .That’s the way I see it and that’s the way I hope it will remain!

regards
viking

Edit Your post over at UBI makes me wonder how honest your post here is. “UBI people”! What are we? 1C people? Thanks for confirming my prejudices and further dividing this small congregation!

Viking, i gotta question... do you still believe that this is Euro-forum? :D It seems that you are so fascinated with that idea, i am really amused by that ;) You seem to invite people from so-called zoo to Euro forum and link leads them here. What`s up? Something i am missing? :D

You are reading far to much into this! All I want and say is “

Please uppdate the links in

GREAT IL-2 WEBSITES
FAN SITES (NEWS & FILES)

to include http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/"

I think it is appropriate that a link to this site is in there. Don’t you? Who am I to invite people? Euro site? I don’t know but it’s got a .eu and we will see what will do for the future. And yes I am very happy to see interest, expansion and development in this simulation as you know a am very dedicated to it,a dedication often mistaken as anger.

Regards
Viking

Yes, that's right. The forum users at Ubi are what i have deemed to label 'Ubi People' and the forum users here are obviously '1C People'. How very perceptive of you to see my cunning ploy to segregate the two forums and the people who frequent them...

:)

I find this press release interesting

http://www.redorchestragame.com/foru...ad.php?t=24423

I know its for RO,but if Oleg decides to publish SoW himself then the ubi forum will quickly become a dead duck.

I tend to agree that the Ubi forum is a good place. If you want good information and you want it FAST, that is the place to go. There are many good and knowledgeable people there who are eager to help out. I do not know of any other forum that is as good as that one. Many a time there were questions that I had and in no time (within minutes) I had the answer I was looking for. The forum is very active. I have seen many other forums that, in comparison, are not nearly the same caliber as that one, despite some of the shannanigans that go on there. There is nothing wrong with a little horseplay...in moderation (accent on mod)

With respect, kristorf, I would say it's a minority of friendly and helpful posters at the 'zoo.' But they are a powerful minority and I hope they continue to endure the egomaniacs who really run the place.

The [free] patch is out and the ungrateful whining has already begun.

Some of the posts in this thread are exactly the kind of posts that earned the zoo its name.

That would be '07, and not much of a massacre. There were very few bans. Mostly short vacations, but the implementation was very...er...marshal and didn't accomplish what it was hoped to accomplish.

Many people (and organizations) continue to forget that it was the community-at-large that really made IL2 and FB what they bacame.

Server hosts (of which should probably get the biggest nod), third party code writers (FBDaemon anybody?), movie-makers and, of course, skinners. These are the people that did the most for bringing along this wonderful sim.

Oleg and 1:C authored the code and spent literally thousands of hours putting it together, but do we remember how frequently Oleg used to come to the community in the early days and exchange dialogue? I do... and really, only good things came of it up to a point.

As a long-time lurker, reader and contributor to this community, I find it somewhat sad to have witnessed some of the depths many felt it necessary to descend to over the last few months. I think that, more than anything else, has done more to bring the end of the IL2 saga closer to an end.


TB

well - I think anytime you get a large number of people together, for any reason, you see wide differences of oppinion.

for my part - I don't see why it is necessary to put down the UBI forum or its moderators to the degree I see here...

the ability to discuss some of these differences vs. the carefull avoidance of certain topics that simply do no one any good to discuss is the tightrope that every moderator must walk - and those guys to their credit tried to let some conversations play out a bit.

thats what made the place both especially interesting and at times somewhat 'confrontational' maybe?... but the people who took unfair advantage of the general discussion theme were always redressed at some point.

that being said - I am pleased that this board appears to be slightly more tightly monitored - but I hope the core community will always be able to recognise one another and continue to discuss general topics in one forum or another...