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Madfish 07-24-2011 04:43 PM

Scratches in the glass are very easy to make though. Engine sounds are not necessarily easy to make (it takes a very good recording job or even worse, it takes a crazy amount of time to re-create sounds with just software)

And yes, all glass degrades, no matter what quality it is and the quality of glass back in 1940 wasn't even remotely comparable to todays standards in the automobile or aviation industy.

By the way, it's not just absurdly obvious scratches. A tiny amount of "texture" is probably what describes the issue best. CoD glass looks as if it's not even there. Anyone with real world experience knows that you will always be able to see a glass surface. due to very fidel textures and reflections. This is well done even in Wings of Prey but in CoD I don't feel imerged at all.

Plt Off JRB Meaker 07-24-2011 05:19 PM

Just a bit of useless info,the priority of the ritualstic cleaning of these
perspex canopies can't be expressed too much.

Apparently the perspex material could be scratched so easily,so much so,that the ground crews were given the softest cloths to clean them with ,as even wiping them unwittingly with a handkerchief could damage them.

After all you're life depended on the effeciency of you're search tfor the enemy through you're canopy.

(An exert from Spitfire at War by Alfred Price)

Ekar 09-11-2011 08:10 PM

+1.

pupo162 09-11-2011 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Madfish (Post 314100)
Scratches in the glass are very easy to make though. Engine sounds are not necessarily easy to make (it takes a very good recording job or even worse, it takes a crazy amount of time to re-create sounds with just software)

And yes, all glass degrades, no matter what quality it is and the quality of glass back in 1940 wasn't even remotely comparable to todays standards in the automobile or aviation industy.

By the way, it's not just absurdly obvious scratches. A tiny amount of "texture" is probably what describes the issue best. CoD glass looks as if it's not even there. Anyone with real world experience knows that you will always be able to see a glass surface. due to very fidel textures and reflections. This is well done even in Wings of Prey but in CoD I don't feel imerged at all.

good maintenence makes glass scratches unniticable.

i flew a 1946 plane with original glass, and it looked cristal clear.

AS opinion keep it as it is. its good.

recoilfx 09-12-2011 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pupo162 (Post 334946)
good maintenence makes glass scratches unniticable.

i flew a 1946 plane with original glass, and it looked cristal clear.

AS opinion keep it as it is. its good.

But by your logic, we shouldn't have the current weathering effect on planes because good maintenance.

Scratches should appear more depending on the weathering slider.

Plt Off JRB Meaker 09-12-2011 06:24 PM

Yes,I would like to see the scratches appear more pronounced as weathering slider is moved up,I really like this idea.

Cataplasma 09-12-2011 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Pencil (Post 309632)
Aircraft "glass" is typically plastic, except for armored glass.

Plastic is easy to scratch, and would be awesome to have.

Armored windows is glass, and scratches, even nicks and spider chips, would be very unusual because rocks off of tiers do not fly up to 12,000 ft! ;)

Plexiglass (PMMA=Polymethylmethacrylate) was invented by army and used for the first time for spit's cockpit (with its typical thermoformed rounded shape).
The scratches that you see in Lock on are typical of modern PMMA cockpits.
Alcohol is very aggressive for PMMA, if you want to make some scratches on PMMA you just have to clean it.
Glass scratches are different and very rare to see on old glass cockpit's thikness.
The spit is the only plane that should have this "scratches", and also different clean-cut bullet's holes

II./JG1_Wilcke 09-13-2011 05:09 PM

That is why you have your ground crew, to blend the canopy Perspex and get those scratches out! Get them to work!

pupo162 09-13-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by recoilfx (Post 335267)
But by your logic, we shouldn't have the current weathering effect on planes because good maintenance.

Scratches should appear more depending on the weathering slider.

your right. good idea.

Ekar 09-14-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pupo162 (Post 335750)
your right. good idea.

I like the effect in Wings of Prey. All it does really is give a slightly nicer impression that there's a medium between you and the sky. I had a go of WOP the other day and it was one of the first things I noticed, apart from the fact that cockpits are much more completely modeled in CloD.


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