hey guys but dont you send an angry nosalute when youre on a 10 minute dogfight and a 190 comes and spoils the fun

hell why people doesnt behave as is this was a real fight

but a fight for fun

would it make any sense anyone interruptin two boxers

do you think it would be nice you engaged in a fight and while 5 people kicked one to the ground you go and kick him as he is down

then why most do it in the game

i want to play online and feel that humanity is worth not a bunch of haters

edit:

when i go online i feel hate

so strong i stopped shooting

in the old times i felt camaradery

will taKe the other cod players over the comunity?

It was used when i played Air Attack, the squadron I was in called The Aces always saluted. This was before the days of broadband, it was all dial up, there wasn't any voice comms so abbreviations were used instead. Great days. :grin:

Raaaid,im 1 of those silent types in the forum,ie i send a thank you when someone has posted and i tend to stay well clear of the silly comments!!
As you say you heard it 1st in EAW.I used to run an online Sqdn (No74Sqdn(V)RAF) and it was our No1 rule that if we got shot down(obviously it never happened to me much:rolleyes:) we automatically sent an S! to our victor.
It is a custome that has sadly slipped away.

Good Post by the wayu

S!

Cheees

From latin "salutăre" meaning "greetings"

i have an idea to bring the salute back, plz guys support me if you want a nice spirit and dont want an spirit of this is war everythings valid comunity

football since ancient times is a war simulation yet players dont kill each other

there should be 3 basic rules to play online to keep the other cod players to the other cod

1)no vulching

this is common sense and its mostly implemented

2)no interrupting dogfights weather one vs one 2 vs 2 or whatever

this rule would simulate better history, i dont think pilots had to satnd waves after waves after waves

3)not murdering an unaware prey

from this comes the expresion backstubbing and is not proper of gentlemen

dont you think the game would rock if these 3 simples rules were implemented?

and you would shoot and be shot with love instead of hate

Salute is still used a lot in IL2 1946. Especially in full real servers or online wars.

I agree that saluting should be encouraged, but i disagree in this, when someone kills you and you didnt even see him coming, that guy you must salute and learn from him, because he manages to take down another AC without putting himself in danger and thats what real pilots aimed at.

And if you get killed alone by three or four guys that are coordinated and hit you one after another you should salute them for their teamwork, and learn when to fight and when to run.

I think there are about as many conception about how to play a combat flight sim as there are players. I can understand that some see it like a sort of competition (you mentioned boxing as an analogy). Others like the teamwork. Again other simply see it as a war simulation. Finally there are some that want to mass kills on their score board. And certainly there are other ways to see it.

I think each of these is a valid way to see this sim. The important thing is that people stick to the server rules and that they have respect for the other players and remain polite.

I'm not being rude, but I'm happy you don't serve for your country.
At the end of the day, a fight will usually boil down to man vs man, and to win a war, you have to kill as many of the opposition as possible (to put it simply).
I think if you talked to anyone who served in the airforce for their country during any conflict, they would tell you that if there was the opportunity for the perfect, glorious, intercept where the enemy was completely oblivious; they would take it. It makes perfect sense.
It's nice to advocate such chivilrous ideas, but how do you know this enemy which you were considerate too won't end up shooting you down and killing you in the ensuing fight? And how will that help your country win the war?
As Lord Raglan noted about the character of Captain Nolan during the Crimean war: 'it will be a murderous affair when soldiers are as knowledgable in military affairs as Captain Nolan' (regarding Nolan's military expertise and knowledge in military tactics). I think Raglan's Crimean affair speaks clearly for the merits (or, rather, demerits) of such a comment.
Indeed, let's take a look at WW1; pilots found that the easiest way to kill your prey was to stay above them at altitude, then dive down, put a bullet in the back of their skull, and return home ready for the next sortie.
War is not glorious, and it's naive to assume it ever will be, Raaaid.

I can understand that you may suffer from conflicting and simplistic emotions,(along with the need to post e v e r y t h i n g that comes into your head) but I really think you should think about some of the things that you post, before you hit the submit button.

well if this is a simulation of war allow vulching

i find most annoying being interrupted in a long adrenaline booster dogfight than being vulched

and if you want it historic how historic is single planes coming wave after wave

edit:

you want realism?

i bet 99% of two vs two dogfights werent interrupted by other planes

in the game online 99% of dogfights are interrupted

hell i hated the 190 with all my heart and end flying one in front of the evidence, 1 month later i was off the game

salute was a sign of friendship

if a scorehore gains amzing scores as i did ten to 1 but unhistorically getting advantage of dogfighters how much frienship are you gonna feel for that guy

the force is intense online but the dark side is dominating it

now its all about hate, venting off steam and unfair play

the old knights are leaving the game, honour is forgotten, no more salutes :(

and the youth easily impressed by the fast rewards of the dark side are taking on the comunity and thinking on reporting this post :(

You've answered your own questions.
yes, it is a simulation of war, but every pilot will have their own way of flying and fighting (the same is true on a squadron basis as well).
I remember reading a pilot account from the BoB when he recalled a bomber being shot at by a handful of hurricanes, and flew in, shot it down and went home. Vulching? Yes, but all in good humour. I think it's a British thing.
Pilots will know not to target A/C which are clearly going down or in the process of being shot down. But whilst it's nice to have a constitution for how to fly online, everyone is an idividual, so let them enjoy the game as they wish.
Because I'm not being funny Raaaid, if we could simply draw up a set of rules for how to behave online etc, your (largely) ridiculous stupid posts would be banned in a flash. In fact, you would be banned. Do you see what I'm getting at? Everyone is their own person, so let it stay that way.
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