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ElAurens 04-23-2011 03:54 PM

Remember, Steam is mostly about FPS games. In FPS games skins can be used to confer advantage. As VAC knows no difference between an FPS and a Flight Sim it won't know the difference between hack to put decals on a plane and a hack to make all your opponents appear hot pink. (This was done in IL2, if you remember).

You all wanted Steam so bad.

Now live with it.

Thee_oddball 04-23-2011 04:01 PM

According to Atoras ALL ACCEPTED! mods will be programed into VAC so the user does not get kicked

BOBC 04-24-2011 08:40 PM

BrassEm.
Many thanks, aircraft dont look incomplete and silly. Historically correct is what I fly.
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Steam agreement, it says you can get banned for "unfair competitive advantage" and having a realistic insignia on the tail of the plane hardly does any of that.
As I dont fly online, and I fly in the UK where freedom of historical accuracy is allowed, we did fight WW2 for freedom and free speech, and won !...will using these mods be ok, or will Steam still stop such players. Are they only after online users ?

I havent purchased it yet, so how will they know, do they access ones PC and see what mods are on it ? Thats intrusion of privacy.

That symbol wouldnt get a seconds thought by users, its just there, the people that fly sims dont care, its part of the accurate scheme, but all this hoo ha about it in fact advertises it, makes a mountain out of a molehill and may just cause bad thoughts where none existed in the minds of the easily led. I still cant see its existence on a tailfin causing a resurgence in naziism though, whole things ridiculous. The action of some petty bureaucrat with a pen and nothing better to do, and unable to fine tune his writings to only apply the rule to cases where it does matter. UK allows it, we dont see problems here at all from its use in flight sims, hasn't warped minds yet.

Good on you BrassEm, sim looks far better for it, now I will buy it.

What controls have we over size and position ?

BOBC

ChrisDNT 04-24-2011 08:58 PM

Nobody's regreting Hyperlobby ?

I do.

BrassEm 04-25-2011 03:57 AM

Hello BOBC,

Only what's in the .dds files at the moment. Hoping 1C will open up the decal system - then it will be fully customisable.

Cheers,

[EDIT: Noted your comment in another forum. Will double check on scans for position again. The reference to the Ju-87 is circa 1942 as posted, and from photo's only. I do not trust profiles or line drawings.]

Wolf_Rider 04-25-2011 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BOBC (Post 272539)
BrassEm.

That symbol wouldnt get a seconds thought by users, its just there, the people that fly sims dont care, its part of the accurate scheme, but all this hoo ha about it in fact advertises it, makes a mountain out of a molehill and may just cause bad thoughts where none existed in the minds of the easily led. I still cant see its existence on a tailfin causing a resurgence in naziism though, whole things ridiculous. The action of some petty bureaucrat with a pen and nothing better to do, and unable to fine tune his writings to only apply the rule to cases where it does matter. UK allows it, we dont see problems here at all from its use in flight sims, hasn't warped minds yet.



mum, who mother was caught up in WWII events, looks in what the offspring is running on screen and lo and behold - has a fit because of what she sees on screen... guess which petty vote seeking bureaucrat gets hassled to fix it, before her mother finds out and has a real fit????

BrassEm 04-25-2011 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 272759)
mum, who mother was caught up in WWII events, looks in what the offspring is running on screen and lo and behold - has a fit because of what she sees on screen... guess which petty vote seeking bureaucrat gets hassled to fix it, before her mother finds out and has a real fit????

Really Wolf,

You had to post that????

Wolf_Rider 04-25-2011 05:41 AM

< looking coy > yes :)

TeeJay82 04-25-2011 11:59 AM

Well.... we have historical guns modelled in all kind games, we have historical warmachines modelled in all kind games, we have historical symbols modelled in all kind games like the "devils pentagram". so what the h*ll is so bad with the swastica/hakencruz compared to all this?

as long as all the other countrys got theyre markings on em fully detailed... why not the luftwaffe? this policy disgust me

Awesome Mod BrassEm :) thank you very much

seiseki 04-25-2011 01:48 PM

So.. making a concentration camp simulation is fine, as long as you don't include swastikas?

Strange priorities..
Why ban such a symbol in a historical environment, when the actual acts of the nazi regime hasn't been censored?
I mean seeing Hitler speaking to a crowd, or ss soldiers executing jews would be far more upsetting than seeing a swastika, yet the swastika is banned..

Actually, now that I think about it, I remember hearing some guy in Germany who got arrested for having a hitler speech as a ringtone..
How ironic considering the side fighting for freedom of speech and democracy won..


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