Problem with it "being better" at some point in the future is we'll have played it so much by then, and been soured by it's problems for so long, we'll not enjoy it anywhere as near as much as we would have if it'd been playable out of the box. It's hard to articulate exactly what I'm getting at but I'm sure most of you know what I mean.

I just want to be able to fix my tracers and convergence!

I agree, which is why I will only try and play it about once a week, so I don't burn myself out of this game. Otherwise when the new goodies come out it wont be that amazing because of the level of frustration reached playing with all the bugs in the game. I have high hopes for this game and look forward to the future patches:-)

Thats how IL2 worked and thats how CoD will work. The good thing about that is that just when u are about to get "bored" something new will be added. Unlike say, Battlefield 2 for ex.


Or maby u want a "finished" game and all the support dropped as soon as it hit the shelf

i didn't buy this sim to play it for 5 days and then forget about it.

I bought it in order to still be playing it 5 years from now.

+10

These people dont have any patience. Right now they are complaining that their 10 year old rigs wont play it, but instead of ponying up for new parts it MUST be the devs fault. If you played IL2 and know anything about that process, you wouldn't be crying like 4 year old girls right now. Trust me good things come to those who wait.

http://youtu.be/eZQyVUTcpM4

;-)

Interesting voice from an ex-programmer of MG discussing with an actual programmer of MG, despite the poor translation you see a whole world:

http://translate.google.it/translate...w.sukhoi.ru%2F

KYA (ex MG)
Re: Graphics of the landscape, water, and all nazemki and its damage.
2 Misha.

I truly believe that the study of objects in the Sim should have been at a good level - higher than the world. The underwater part is justified if the show torpedo attacks.

I was pleased when the team you replenished and several programmers. I begged Oleg take you to the team ... entire year and a half. That you completed the project of new technologies, which we lacked, but did not expect that it will strike on technologies that were already at a high level, as a result, the acute shortage of staff, half of them vypihnut driven or kicked ...

Variations on the water you have not, afraid of the complexity of algorithms, apparently afraid that after my departure
You can not handle it. A similar situation with the clouds, the physics that did not I, but you can not remake it ... Research is more than a year ...
I wanted to deal with not only water but also the landscape, clouds, trying to contribute,
who constantly tried to throw out and remake of his - well, and have rudimentary details of the surface, the band at the junction of the blocks (T-junction), otsutvie reflection, abnormal function of height at the junction of the cliff, otsutvie shadows from cliffs.

My answer is why long does the water - she did not make a permanently altered, because
with permanent alterations of the landscape, the transition to the new graphics API. As a result,
version 2006 was irretrievably lost.
, Where 1 fps to clean water
This method of PR about glitches and 1 fps, we continue to write, especially against the backdrop of glitches and no FPS RELEASE bean. Alternative water which is now in a pod as FPS gives, it can still
1.5 times as easily accelerate. Alternative water that I offered (three-dimensional waves and surf)
in 2006, gives more than 60fps.
A simplified version of three-dimensional water with a submerged part of the surf and gave 40-70 FPS on the 260GTX.

In general, I do not pour filth, and constructive criticism.
If you would like to cooperate you have done this long ago.
And by offering a reward. So far I have not received the promised made in advance of
Six months ago ...

Shl Let's measure all results, including graphics IL2 4.09 vs graphics Bob. I'm more than a year do you no harm Bugs edit and optimize. Working in another firm for only six months, contributed greatly to the optimization of the graphics that rival was in full pope. http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews...s-review.ars/8
And you, you answer ... how FPSom

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MuxaHuk 8actual MG)
<QUOTE> Message from KYA (ex MG)
I truly believe that the study of objects in the Sim should have been at a good level - higher than the world.</QUOTE>
This is assuming that in addition to these facilities, everything else that is needed for the Sim at least present. Water alone can not eat.
<QUOTE> Message from KYA (ex MG)
Variations on the water you have not, afraid of the complexity of algorithms, apparently afraid that after I left you and she does not manage. </QUOTE>
We're not easily frightened, but the players would be scared of 1 frame per second.
Time of Your water comes later. All will see and be sure to praise.
<QUOTE> Message from KYA (ex MG)
A similar situation with the clouds, the physics that did not I, but you can not remake it ... </QUOTE>
You are too emotional ... this prophecy? why write about what you did and did not even touch.
<QUOTE> Message from KYA (ex MG)
I wanted to deal with not only water but also the landscape, clouds, trying to contribute,
who constantly tried to throw out and remake </QUOTE>
Do you have enough time to do this if you like. But when you have already let out the game, the experiments are too risky, or else you can do indefinitely.
<QUOTE> Message from KYA (ex MG)
well, and have rudimentary details of the surface, the band at the junction of the blocks (T-junction), otsutvie reflection, abnormal function of height at the junction of the cliff, otsutvie shadows from cliffs. </QUOTE>
Lose their qualifications? Previously outright bugs determined by eye, and then just past.

<QUOTE> Message from KYA (ex MG)
In general, I do not pour filth, and constructive criticism. </QUOTE>
I've noticed, especially you like to do it in public
</QUOTE> Message from KYA (ex MG)
If you would like to cooperate you have done this long ago. </QUOTE>
Agreed.
<QUOTE> Message from KYA (ex MG)
And by offering a reward. So far I have not received the promised made in advance of
Six months ago ... </QUOTE>
None of us knows what you did and for whom, really. You promised to finish the water, but a line was not up to you.

Reminded of the famous story of a doctor, who threw to treat hopeless patients left to die, and when the patient survived and began to recover, suddenly reappeared and began to criticize that the patient was treated incorrectly, that all should have been done differently, only he knows how it can be cured nobody else can.

Jura you a talented scientist, but your star fever stopping you.
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hope all the best.

> You have promised to finish the water, but a line was not up to you.
You have refused (or rather, lead programmer) so I added these lines to the project. You have personally stated
that the algorithm is too complicated, and it is dangerous to insert. I wish I could give shader code into the studio and screens ...
but alas I have no right.


To deceive hung IMHO not intentionally, but simply not controlling the situation ...
Example 20 year old
Union is not August 19, 1991 at one point collapsed because of the notorious Emergency Committee, and by incompetent
governing authority in its "modernization" since 1985. Gorby, probably still do not understand how it happened, because everything was going so well ...

Shl I threw the patient or other doctors I have accused me of too much cleverness techniques and were not allowed on the threshold of the operating room.
From afar, I watched almost at random by the dying patient oprobyvayut different procedures, while realizing that dsotovernuyu medical history, which I wrote nobody wants to even casually glance ...

Before the release I was constantly offered help ... apparently incorrigible altruism ...
A critic in time, still under development, offering alternative solutions and it was a shame
that my experience of silt and strategic developments are ignored ... Instead of constructive debate dab in the myths about
1 fpse and Uncorrectable nothing glitch ...
I do not know how to break through this brick wall strange star ...

Thank you for the title of scientist, very sorry that I can not move in this direction, even now.

> Do you have enough time to do this if you like. But when you have already let out the game, the experiments are too risky, or else you can do indefinitely.

Time was, but the conditions were constantly changing in the engine ... The water for the engine in 2006 was very well done.
When going to release the game due to improper Management, it was not clear, it must be right to release tomorrow
and then again six months later. How to plan tasks.
Of experiments in Ile they do not interfere to improve graphics, varieties of water out there for starting with 3dfx.
Well, not only water, do not dwell on it

what about us with new and powerfull rigs and performance probs....heck I was a beta tester so I know how to optimise my system, overclock HW and resource free my OS, tuneup the game; but still have probs in the sim...its not smooth at all mate.....yep I have high FPS but thats means shhhh if hte sim isnt optimised well....some of the problems are coming from non existing vsync, fps limiter, but the real problem is unoptimised game......what would be online with more players if I have probs in single player with 3 planes above the land?

+1
What we are seeing in IL2 should not be problematic on modern rigs. The fact that there are no tree hitboxes but they "supposedly" (not idea if they do) track each bullet is insanse - you can track a bullet but not a tree?